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brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 01:23 pm
@jerlands,
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Well, I think my truth is I'm not going to prove anything outside of reason. I've heard it said that physics isn't math. That physics has more to do with contemplation than number.
Math is describing reality, and you can imagine reality as a model or picture in your mind. This is true even if the particles are to small to be detected by instruments made of atoms. The structure can still be imagined and drawn to scale.
jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 01:47 pm
@brianjakub,
brianjakub wrote:

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Well, I think my truth is I'm not going to prove anything outside of reason. I've heard it said that physics isn't math. That physics has more to do with contemplation than number.
Math is describing reality, and you can imagine reality as a model or picture in your mind. This is true even if the particles are to small to be detected by instruments made of atoms. The structure can still be imagined and drawn to scale.

What is this concept of number anyway? Isn't it just a relation to something that has it's starting point at 0? I've heard everything was created between 0 and 1.

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In the creation myth of ancient Judaic mysticism, God creates the universe by a process dubbed tzimtzum, which in Hebrew means a sort of stepping back to allow for there to be an Other,
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jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 02:19 pm
@brianjakub,
there are many forms in nature that can be expressed mathematically.. tetrahedron, octahedron, hexahedron, icosahedron, dodecahedron.
jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 02:47 pm
@brianjakub,
isn't math founded on four basic principles? addition, subtraction, multiplication, division? addition and subtraction appear the inverse of the other as does multiplication and division which seems to lead to two basic elemental driving forces for math.
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jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 03:04 pm
@brianjakub,
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/jerlands/tuts%20shield%20canopic%20jars.jpg
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jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 03:06 pm
@brianjakub,
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/jerlands/Four_sons_of_Horus.jpg
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jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 03:11 pm
@brianjakub,
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/jerlands/25%20Canopic%20jars.jpg
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jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 03:25 pm
@brianjakub,
Two driving forces in nature... expansion and contraction.. and these two forces seem to resound in all things.
brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 03:31 pm
@jerlands,
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there are many forms in nature that can be expressed mathematically.. tetrahedron, octahedron, hexahedron, icosahedron, dodecahedron
Every form and everything physical can be expressed mathematically. It is easier to understand if it is physically experienced though.
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brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 03:47 pm
@jerlands,
When you experience something your mind groups the math into patterns that it can compare, which is like compressing the data.
jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 03:57 pm
@brianjakub,
brianjakub wrote:

When you experience something your mind groups the math into patterns that it can compare, which is like compressing the data.

Well with all that compressing of data I imagine it'll take time to break apart, digest and assimilate. Maybe then we can expound upon it.
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jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 04:05 pm
@brianjakub,
brianjakub wrote:

When you experience something your mind groups the math into patterns that it can compare, which is like compressing the data.

Expansion and Contraction is the number "2," duality. We still need to get to number "1" and the concept of "0."
brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 06:17 pm
@jerlands,
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Expansion and Contraction is the number "2," duality. We still need to get to number "1" and the concept of "0."
Numbers are for counting so your mind can compare more and less, nothing and infinite, start and finish.
jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 06:53 pm
@brianjakub,
brianjakub wrote:

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Expansion and Contraction is the number "2," duality. We still need to get to number "1" and the concept of "0."
Numbers are for counting so your mind can compare more and less, nothing and infinite, start and finish.

so are you suggesting 1 = ∞ (infinity?)
brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 07:06 pm
@jerlands,
Infinity isn’t a number it’s a concept like “forever”.
jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 07:17 pm
@brianjakub,
brianjakub wrote:

Infinity isn’t a number it’s a concept like “forever”.

I see.. then might infinity equate to the concept of 1 becoming from 0?
brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 07:20 pm
@jerlands,
Zero is a number
jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 07:21 pm
@brianjakub,
brianjakub wrote:

Zero is a number

0 is a concept, like 1 is a concept or 2 is a concept. Number is simply a symbol of the concept.
brianjakub
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 07:24 pm
@jerlands,
I stand corrected 0 is a concept and a number infinity is a concept and not a number
jerlands
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2018 07:27 pm
@brianjakub,
brianjakub wrote:

I stand corrected 0 is a concept and a number infinity is a concept and not a number

You suggest infinity is not a number.. I'm suggesting one (1) may be infinity if we can explore the concept.
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