* Bush Admin seeks to detain suspects forever without trial

OCCOM BILL wrote:

Joe Republican wrote:

It's called history. Read up on the rise of Nazi Germany, the propaganda machines, and you can see a parallel between nazism and patriotism. If you don't want to examine history, you are doomed to repeat it.

Joe, sell paranoid somewhere else. I'm not buying. If you were even half right, with the technology available today, the SS would have hauled you away long ago.

So what part are you not agreeing with? The definition of Fascism, the fact that we have a lot of fascist tendencies, or the parallels to neo-conservatism and fascism?

I'm curious, because you came out so fervently opposed to what I was saying, I'd like to know which part you disagree with. As for bringing Hitler into the discussion, I could have and probably should have used Mousillini, but when people think of fascism, they think Hitler, not Italy. I'm not saying that we are going to create gas chambers and start to gass Muslims, but there definitely exists parallels between the rise of Nazism, the patriotism after 9-11 and the political platform of the Bushies.

There's a handy name for a prison camp were people go to never be heard of again. GULAGS.

That's right, the USA has finally admitted that the Soviet Union had it right. No-one, at any time, at any place, for any reason can expect to be treated as a human being with any sort of rights. Unlawful detention, unprovable accustations, no trials, no appeals, state-sanctioned coercion and torture, and a nice big 'memory-hole' to make sure that the 'evidence' can't ever re-appear. Paint a big moustache on 'Uncle George' and roll out the May Day celebrations.

What would you suggest we do with the suspected terrorists?

What would you suggest we do with the suspected terrorists?

Let's assume that those held are being held for cause.

What would you suggest we do with the suspected terrorists?

Well Drew, this is a very difficult situation to be in. we already let a few GITMO "fellows" go and they returned to "battle" against our troops.

So in "DREW WORLD", what would your policy be with these suspected terrorists??

"but the United States is covertly capturing an untold number of people from other countries, labeling them as terrorists or suspected terrorists or enemy combatants, keeping them captive in unknown locations, subjecting them to interrogation and torture and perhaps executing them when they are no longer useful. There is no accountability for secret activities carried on by our government. "

Let's assume that those held are being held for cause.

What would you suggest we do with the suspected terrorists?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52670-2004Oct21?language=printer

"At least 10 detainees released from the Guantanamo Bay prison after U.S. officials concluded they posed little threat have been recaptured or killed fighting U.S. or coalition forces in Pakistan and Afghanistan, according to Pentagon officials.

One of the repatriated prisoners is still at large after taking leadership of a militant faction in Pakistan and aligning himself with al Qaeda, Pakistani officials said. In telephone calls to Pakistani reporters, he has bragged that he tricked his U.S. interrogators into believing he was someone else"

There you go!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52670-2004Oct21?language=printer

"One of the repatriated prisoners is still at large after taking leadership of a militant faction in Pakistan and aligning himself with al Qaeda, Pakistani officials said. In telephone calls to Pakistani reporters, he has bragged that he tricked his U.S. interrogators into believing he was someone else"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52670-2004Oct21?language=printer

"At least 10 detainees released from the Guantanamo Bay prison after U.S. officials concluded they posed little threat have been recaptured or killed fighting U.S. or coalition forces in Pakistan and Afghanistan, according to Pentagon officials.

One of the repatriated prisoners is still at large after taking leadership of a militant faction in Pakistan and aligning himself with al Qaeda, Pakistani officials said. In telephone calls to Pakistani reporters, he has bragged that he tricked his U.S. interrogators into believing he was someone else"

There you go!

Well Drew, this is a very difficult situation to be in. we already let a few GITMO "fellows" go and they returned to "battle" against our troops.

"At least 10 detainees released from the Guantanamo Bay prison ......"
There you go!

woiyo wrote:

"but the United States is covertly capturing an untold number of people from other countries, labeling them as terrorists or suspected terrorists or enemy combatants, keeping them captive in unknown locations, subjecting them to interrogation and torture and perhaps executing them when they are no longer useful. There is no accountability for secret activities carried on by our government. "

Let's assume that those held are being held for cause.

What would you suggest we do with the suspected terrorists?

You can assume all you want -- assumptions are not evidence.

I hope you have heard of the concept of due process. I suggest that we afford fundamental due process to all persons who are in held in custody by the United States government or held by other governments at our country's request.

So your solution is to put each and every one on trial at taxpayer expense??