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"A Flood of Troubled Soldiers Is in the Offing...."

 
 
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2004 02:49 pm
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Army Seeks to Save War-Torn Marriages

Wednesday December 29, 2004 7:46 PM

By KIMBERLY HEFLING

Associated Press Writer

HOPKINSVILLE, Ky. (AP) - With studies showing divorce rates as high as 21 percent among couples where one spouse has been sent off to war, the Army is spending $2 million on a variety of marriage programs, including vouchers for romantic getaways to places like the Opryland Hotel in Nashville, Tenn.

When Sgt. Jose Bermudez returned from Iraq early this year, he came home to a new baby and a troubled marriage. ``We were on the brink of divorce,'' Mandy Bermudez acknowledged as the couple ate lunch recently with their three children, all under age 3.

The Bermudezes were among 300 couples with the Fort Campbell-based 101st Airborne Division who have attended ``marriage enrichment'' seminars put on by the Army in hopes of saving war-ravaged relationships.


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Jose Bermudez said it seems as if everyone he knows at Fort Campbell is either getting a divorce or contemplating one. Many couples want to get things decided because the division has been alerted it could return to Iraq as early as mid-2005.


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The effort is similar to another series of Army programs to help returning soldiers reconnect emotionally with spouses and children. Those programs began after four wives at Fort Bragg, N.C., were killed, allegedly by their soldier husbands, in 2002.

Egert said the Army's effort doesn't just make for stronger families - it makes for better soldiers.

``Soldiers will come apart in Afghanistan and Iraq. They'll absolutely collapse if they think their wife is going to leave them or their husband is going to leave them,'' Egert said. ``I've seen soldiers hospitalized because they absolutely had a nervous breakdown because they were worried about their families.''

Added Bloomstrom: ``You are really giving something that the couples know they need, at a time they may be receptive to hear it.''


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4700146,00.html


Here's hoping that acknowledgement of the problem will lead to much more assistance for the troops and their families.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2004 03:16 pm
I am interested in how they attempt to assist with the emotional reconnection stuff.

One of the things that soldiers I have known (as with cops and, even, in a humbler way, people in areas such as mine) have said makes it hard is that they do not want to subject spouses/friends/family to stories of the horrors they have seen and experienced or committed.

And, indeed, sometimes trauma leads to obsessive re-telling which alienates people - or the embittered attitude does - so people spend more time with buddies who understand - leaving others feeling abandoned and excluded.

I wonder if this program works???
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2004 03:21 pm
Who knows if it works - just acknowledging the problem is a step forward.

It's probably like most types of counselling - takes a bit of experimenting to figure out what really works for a given type of situation. If anything does work.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2004 03:25 pm
A dear detective friend's marriage just broke up - he cannot understand it - nor why his wife is so angry with him. I can. He's spent the last few years working one of the most disgusting serial murders anyone has ever heard of, poor fella - as well as the usual crap.

(But I think she is being a major pain in the bum!)
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2004 05:33 pm
a little off topic but I read that we're dealing with 900 American orphans right now and the kids are showing some disturbing signs as you can imagine..
The poor Iraqui orphan count is at over 2,000...there's a lot of collateral damage we don't take into account.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2004 06:39 pm
Dammit.

I gues this what Ash calls "a bloody nose" - like from Vietnam.
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Magus
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2004 08:15 pm
Rember before the invasion, when we tried to point out the downside of American troops in Quagdad?
The Military Specialists said Iraq could never be another VietNam because Iraq had no jungle...
I guess they just couldn't see the forest for the trees...
the "surgical strike"/"7-day war"scenario was a lovely delusion for SOME...
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2004 09:47 pm
I know magus. It's disheartening to see intelligent Conservatives cover their eyes and ears ...and neglect to cover their mouths.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 26 Mar, 2005 07:46 pm
Well, any optimism I briefly held ...

is gone ...


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Brain injury therapy being underfunded

March 18, 2005

According to doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., 60 percent of the wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq have traumatic brain injuries.

Unfortunately, the Bush administration has recently completely zeroed out funding for the Federal TBI Act, which provides exactly this kind of help.

In Vermont, due to recent decisions concerning budgetary shortfalls, TBI survivors are now prevented from entering the Vermont TBI Medicaid Waiver Program, which delivers exactly this kind of help.

Please call the governor (802) 828-3345 and our congressional representatives and ask them to support the Vermont TBI Medicaid Waiver Program.

James Vyhnak Bristol


Thanks to Ed the Throbbing One, who posted this on another thread.
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Jack Webbs
 
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Reply Sun 6 Nov, 2005 12:43 am
It is a serious matter. Unfortunately all to often some people are not really "sick." Disability claims being paid to thousands of recipents of stress syndrome are now being reviewed.

At many veteran gatherings it is almost a given that some "pychologist" will pop up at some point and begin his pitch about the syndrome. The last one I attended was held aboard a military base a couple of years ago. This guy began by saying: "he knew how we all felt because he was one of us."

He asked through a show of hands how many of us THOUGHT we had emotional problems. I was very angry and realized this jerk was attempting to drum up business for himself. That is beside he point. The point is that some vets are encouraged to apply for this psychological disability when they may have not even thought about it. The screening process for the applicants must be faulty else the government would not be reviewing all these claims.

You should also recongnize that only a relatively small percentage of people in the armed forces committed to any war, not just Irag, actually participate in the fighting close up. And if history is any indication, the overwhelming majority of men handle it.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2007 10:50 am
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Published: August 15, 2007 8:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON Army soldiers committed suicide last year at the highest rate in 26 years, and more than a quarter did so while serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a new military report.




editor and publisher
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2007 10:55 am
UPDATED: Why Isn't the Press on a Suicide Watch?

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Greg Mitchell

Published: August 13, 2007 3:45 PM ET

NEW YORK Would it surprise you to learn that according to official Pentagon figures, at least 118 U.S. military personnel in Iraq have committed suicide since April 2003? That number does not include many unconfirmed reports, or those who served in the war and then killed themselves at home (a sizable, if uncharted, number).

While troops who have died in "hostile action" -- and those gravely injured and rehabbing at Walter Reed and other hospitals -- have gained much wider media attention in recent years, the suicides (about 3% of our overall Iraq death toll) remain in the shadows.

For whatever reason, I have always found soldiers who take their own lives especially tragic, though some might argue the opposite. Since the beginning of the war, I have written numerous columns on self-inflicted deaths, from average grunts to Col. Ted Westhusing (angry about contractor abuses), Alyssa Peterson (appalled by interrogation techniques) and Linda Michel (denied medication after returning home). But generally, the suicides get very little local or national attention.


In a sense, the press doesn't know what to do about them. Did they serve their country well, but ultimately let it down? Or is their country fully responsible for putting them in a suicide-producing situation in the first place and has blood on its hands?

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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2007 02:55 pm
In defense of the media, the Pentagon doesn't make suicide statistics easily accessible.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2008 06:14 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/us/13vets.html

Across America, Deadly Echoes of Foreign Battles

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This showed an 89 percent increase during the present wartime period, to 349 cases from 184, about three-quarters of which involved Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans. The increase occurred even though there have been fewer troops stationed in the United States in the last six years and the American homicide rate has been, on average, lower.


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"Everything is multicausational, of course," Dr. Lifton continued. "But combat, especially in a counterinsurgency war, is such a powerful experience that to discount it would be artificial."

Few of these 121 war veterans received more than a cursory mental health screening at the end of their deployments, according to interviews with the veterans, lawyers, relatives and prosecutors. Many displayed symptoms of combat trauma after their return, those interviews show, but they were not evaluated for or received a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder until after they were arrested for homicides.


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Unlike during the Vietnam War, the current military has made a concerted effort, through screenings and research, to gauge the mental health needs of returning veterans. But gauging and addressing needs are different, and a Pentagon task force last year described the military mental health system as overburdened, "woefully" understaffed, inadequately financed and undermined by the stigma attached to PTSD.

Although early treatment might help veterans retain their relationships and avoid developing related problems like depression, alcoholism and criminal behavior, many do not seek or get such help. And this group of homicide defendants seems to be a prime example.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2008 06:19 pm
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Today we have a volunteer army. The people who join want to be in the military. They are trained to be warriors.


the evidence against appropriate training having been provided is getting stronger and stronger
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jan, 2008 07:21 am
EhBeth--

I thought of this thread when I saw the NYT's article. Thanks for posting the link.

Service to country....the gift that keeps on giving.

The costs of war are very complicated.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jan, 2008 12:32 am
ehBeth wrote:
the evidence against appropriate training having been provided is getting stronger and stronger


That remark sure rings true of the New York Times reporters.

Smearing Soldiers By Ralph Peters

January 15, 2008 -- THE New York Times is trashing our troops again. With no new "atrocities" to report from Iraq for many a month, the limping Gray Lady turned to the home front. Front and center, above the fold, on the front page of Sunday's Times, the week's feature story sought to convince Americans that combat experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan are turning troops into murderers when they come home. Heart-wringing tales of madness and murder not only made the front page, but filled two entire centerfold pages and spilled onto a fourth.

The Times did get one basic fact right: Returning vets committed or are charged with 121 murders in the United States since our current wars began.

Had the Times' "journalists" and editors bothered to put those figures in context - which they carefully avoided doing - they would've found that the murder rate that leaves them so aghast means that our vets are five times less likely to commit a murder than their demographic peers.

The Times' public editor, Clark Hoyt, should crunch the numbers. I'm even willing to spot the Times a few percentage points (either way). But the hard statistics from the Justice Department tell a far different tale from the Times' anti-military propaganda.

A very conservative estimate of how many different service members have passed through Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait since 2003 is 350,000 (and no, that's not double-counting those with repeated tours of duty).

Now consider the Justice Department's numbers for murders committed by all Americans aged 18 to 34 - the key group for our men and women in uniform. To match the homicide rate of their peers, our troops would've had to come home and commit about 150 murders a year, for a total of 700 to 750 murders between 2003 and the end of 2007.

In other words, the Times unwittingly makes the case that military service reduces the likelihood of a young man or woman committing a murder by 80 percent.

Yes, the young Americans who join our military are (by self- selection) superior by far to the average stay-at-home. Still, these numbers are pretty impressive, when you consider that we're speaking of men and women trained in the tools of war, who've endured the acute stresses of fighting insurgencies and who are physically robust (rather unlike the stick-limbed weanies the Times prefers).

All in all, the Times' own data proves my long-time contention that we have the best behaved and most ethical military in history.

Now, since the folks at the Times are terribly busy and awfully important, let's make it easy for them to do the research themselves (you can do it, too - in five minutes).

Just Google "USA Murder Statistics." The top site to appear will be the Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics. Click on it, then go to "Demographic Trends." Click on "Age." For hard numbers on the key demographics, click on the colored graphs.

Run the numbers yourself, based upon the demographic percentages of murders per every 100,000 people. Then look at the actual murder counts.

Know what else you'll learn? In 2005 alone, 8,718 young Americans from the same age group were murdered in this country. That's well over twice as many as the number of troops killed in all our foreign missions since 2001. Maybe military service not only prevents you from committing crimes, but also keeps you alive?

Want more numbers? In the District of Columbia, our nation's capital, the murder rate for the 18-34 group was about 14 times higher than the rate of murders allegedly committed by returning vets.

And that actually understates the District's problem, since many DC-related murders spill across into Prince George's County (another Democratic Party stronghold).

In DC, an 18-34 population half the size of the total number of troops who've served in our wars overseas committed the lion's share of 992 murders between 2003 and 2007 - the years mourned by the Times as proving that our veterans are psychotic killers.

Aren't editors supposed to ask tough questions on feature stories? Are the Times' editors so determined to undermine the public's support for our troops that they'll violate the most-basic rules of journalism, such as putting numbers in context?

Answer that one for yourself.

Of course, all of this is part of the disgraceful left-wing campaign to pretend sympathy with soldiers - the Times column gushes crocodile tears - while portraying our troops as clichéd maniacs from the Oliver Stone fantasies that got lefties so self-righteously excited 20 years ago (See? We were right to dodge the draft . . .).

And it's not going to stop. Given the stakes in an election year, the duplicity will only intensify.

For an upcoming treat, we'll get the film "Stop-Loss," starring, as always, young punks who never served in uniform as soldiers. This left-wing diatribe argues that truly courageous troops would refuse to return to Iraq - at a time when soldiers and Marines continue to re-enlist at record rates, expecting to plunge back into the fight.

Those on the left will never accept that the finest young Americans are those who risk their lives defending freedom. Sen. John Kerry summed up the views of the left perfectly when he disparaged our troops as too stupid to do anything but sling hamburgers.

And The New York Times will never forgive our men and women in uniform for their infuriating successes in Iraq.
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