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cjhsa, maybe a tiny bit of hyperbole there?

I'd call nimh both one of the most liberal and one of the most logical posters here.

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cjhsa wrote:

Apparently dooks feels he can discredit my posts by namecalling. It certainly doesn't bother me to be called "redneck".

I never assumed that it would. Just as it doesn't bother me to be called a liberal. But apparently you feel that you can discredit Cyclo by calling his posts garbage. Is that name calling, or just a blatant mischaracterization? Very Happy

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That is patently untrue. I have never seen a liberal use logic in any way, shape, or form. You are no exception.

It would probably help to know what logic actually is first before assuming that liberals never use it, don't you think? :wink:

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My ability to use logic got me an engineering degree. How about you? Poly sci maybe?

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My husband's ability to use logic got him a Ph.D in physics. Guess who's a super-liberal?

That line of argument goes nowhere. Would love to see Foxfyre respond to the post nimh refers to. Since we're on a new page, I'll post it again:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1277783#1277783

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Nothing against your hubby soz, buy physics isn't completely based on logic. Much of it involves a leap of faith.

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There's a saying in the IT world, "garbage in, garbage out".

I see a lot of that here and I'm just calling it as I see it.

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Any specifics?

Any, ya know, logical rebuttals?

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No, he can't actually offer any logical rebuttals.

All he can do is discuss our lack of logic.

Prove me wrong, Cjhsa. Offer a logical rebuttal of what I have written. Show in some way that you are doing more than trolling this thread up; I dare ya.

Cycloptichorn

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As far as leaps of faith are concerned?

Ok, how about this. Do photons have mass? Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, it depends upon what theory you are trying to prove.

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Actually, I was talking about HERE. Same as what Cyclop just said. Instead of saying "that's not logical", full stop, say HOW it's not logical. Or for that matter, even "that's not logical", referring to something specific, rather than general "all liberals are illogical" statements.

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cjhsa wrote:

A "solid and rational outline" of garbage is still garbage.

I'd also be interested to know how Cyclo's postings are garbage. Do tell, cjhsa...

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Come on guys. This has been a good thread and I would not like for it to be locked due to another round of 'mine is bigger', 'your's is blackest', and other forms of oneupmanship.

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So how'd you like to move it forward by responding to Cyclops' twice-linked post, Fox? :-D

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I agree with Fox, though, I don't want to get into a pissing contest.

I would like to hear some further discussion about my claims that the arguments presented lack evidence. It seems to me that my points have been dropped in the face of all the sniping back and forth in the last few pages, but I still think we could get back to it.

Fox, 2 things.

Have you really been to www.newamericancentury.org ? Have you read the articles? You do realize who wrote the articles, what they say, and how they epitomize the NeoCon viewpoint? During our discussion I got the impression that you believed that they were nothing more than a 'partisan site,' which I do agree with; extremely partisan, and also the people running our country. Any thoughts?

Secondly, I believe that the critical component of the argument is to show how Liberal proffessors in general are bad for students, and how the courses themselves are taught from a liberal slant which is bad for students. Now is when you should present the evidence that this is true; I'll freely admit that you are correct if you can show me how this is true, in a wide-spread fashion that would call for legislation (as many seem to promote), using data and not Anecdotal resources.

Cycloptichorn

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

...I believe that the critical component of the argument is to show how Liberal proffessors in general are bad for students, and how the courses themselves are taught from a liberal slant which is bad for students.
Cycloptichorn

When you return from college and your parents want to beat the **** out of you and sue the institution for what has been taught to their child, that isn't very good for the student IMO.

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So, you are saying that Conservatives are chronic Child-abusers?

Cycloptichorn

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cjhsa wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
...I believe that the critical component of the argument is to show how Liberal proffessors in general are bad for students, and how the courses themselves are taught from a liberal slant which is bad for students.
Cycloptichorn

When you return from college and your parents want to beat the **** out of you and sue the institution for what has been taught to their child, that isn't very good for the student IMO.

Seems to me these parents have a problem, not the institution or the child.

If they only want to finance a conservative education, then they should've done their research.

caveat emptor

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cjhsa wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
...I believe that the critical component of the argument is to show how Liberal proffessors in general are bad for students, and how the courses themselves are taught from a liberal slant which is bad for students.
Cycloptichorn

When you return from college and your parents want to beat the **** out of you and sue the institution for what has been taught to their child, that isn't very good for the student IMO.

Imagine that? You go to college, then come home, and your parents beat the crap out of you for learning.

I guess this is mearly another stellar example of why there aren't more conservative professors in universities. They would probably be beating their students into submission in order to learn their own political ideology if they had the chance...

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Besides, I believe cjhsa should start another thread regarding domestic violence and abuse. And then he can offer us a "logical" correlation between liberal professors who teach in college, and the student's who get the crap beaten out of them when they return home.

Seems to me there are much larger issues here than lack of conservative teachers in our universities...

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