Is debate possible between ignoramuses?How is it possible

About innocence :

Some here have a little knowledge in mind and your "cahoot" from "cahute" made think that the conspirators of the "Charbonnerie" met in "cahutes". Then I googled a link in English :

Charbonnerie

How about if we title the thread, "in cahoots?"

That would be great!

That's fascinating, Francis.

Here's a little fun place I've found on the internet. It has nothing to do with the above topic. But I just thought of it and thought some might like to see it.

http://www.makingfiends.com/

I love this little funny place. I hope others will enjoy it too.

It might be dangerous.They might think it is resurgent cult with odd rituals and stuff.They might hunt us down like dogs.I don't fancy that.

Does a veto apply?

It is a good meaning for cahoot though.

Maybe we can tittle the thread : "Flaubert explained to the kids"

One would first be obliged to explain Flaubert to Flaubert.

who cares what Flaubert thinks? He's long gone. It's us now who get to decide what we think about what he wrote. That's all there is anyway.

Oh dear, I hope I haven't made enemies again.

We mustn't be provocative, or we'll attract the naughties. (present company excluded, set.)

How about just "Salammbo"

I am deeply disappointed that you do not number me among the naughties, Miss Lola . . . i suppose all the lust and worship from afar was self-delusion . . .

self delusion is the best kind. But true, I mis-spoke. You are well positioned in the hierarchy of the naughties. Sorry.......I was temporarily discombobulated by mixing with the "contemporary conservatives" on that other thread. laughing

I'll go with Salammbo.It is a powerful word.Flaubert referred to her as his "Carthaginian girl".

He also said-"Madame Bovary est moi".

Francis-wasn't the lady friend who pestered him too much called Louise.That could be Lola's real name.It is a nice name.

The trouble with doing a psychoanalysis of Flaubert from his Croiset (?) confessions is that we might end up like him which I wouldn't mind but I'm not too sure Setanta would agree.

But Lola hasn't read it yet and I doubt she has any idea of what she is in for.She probably thinks that it is just another famous book.If I was to do a creative writing course for ten bright students I would spend at least a year on it.Maybe the whole course.

Well, i certainly would not mind if you ended up like Flaubert--in the country boy's expression: "Who don't care is me."

However, you may misundertand me. I simply was making a wry remark to suggest that Flaubert wrote for the purpose of understanding Flaubert as much for any other reason.

Any way, i'm literal minded. I much prefer Zola.

Flaubert : Madame Bovary c'est moi!
Croisset.
Louise Colet.

Set - I've read "all" Zola.

Setanta:-

The point of the thread is that none of us understand each other.If we realised it we might try harder.

I must leave now.

Good luck all.

I've not read all of his work, and steadfastly refuse to read any of it in English. I attempted to read the Rougon-Macquart in a more or less chronological order, but it was years before i would come across another of the novels, so i gave that up for the opportunity to enjoy each that i came across as an independent work. After Zola, i've most enjoyed Aymé, and have read Uranus, La Table aux Crevées, the wonderful stories in La Jument Verte, as well as some plays. I've read "heaps" of other authors, but none have entertained me as well as Zola and Aymé.

Spendius: No ****, Sherlock.

This is a good reason to write, I think. Possibly the only real or good one. And it's astute of you to point it out, Set. I believe I did misunderstand.

Now you guys.......no fighting. Everyone here has a big one.

OMG, how did you know, Lola . . . has someone been taking piccies of me in the privacy of my home ? ! ? ! ?

Good one that Uranus but La Jument Verte is wonderful.

Flaubert : some kind of self-analysis in a way.