talk72000
 
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Thu 25 May, 2006 09:52 pm
Luke 12:
49. I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? (Words of an arsonist, certainly not a peacemaker!)
50. Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: (Jesus denies that he is a peacemaker!)
51. For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. (Jesus will divide people)

Matthew 10:4
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace on earth, but a sword. (Jesus was a swash-buckling swordsman, how romantic and adventuresome - that should get Hollywood's attention, they have been portraying him as meek!)

Jesus by his own words denied that he came to bring peace on earth. He was no man of peace but a man of the sword as his own words attest; he was a religious rebel, but a good public relations effort operating continuously portray him otherwise (in modern terms, this would be akin to brainwashing!), for he planned to set the earth on fire.

At the same time, in Matthew 5:9, Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God". Was Jesus two-faced or what? If this is not a case of speaking from both sides of one's mouth, what is? Is this not hypocrisy or doublespeak?
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Scott777ab
 
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Thu 25 May, 2006 10:11 pm
O you give me such a good laugh, Talk. Keep your scriptor twisting coming.

O yeah by the way, the OT was written before Jesus was born into the flesh.
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talk72000
 
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Thu 25 May, 2006 10:16 pm
By your words Jebus can't be god.
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Scott777ab
 
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Fri 26 May, 2006 09:26 pm
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh,

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


I am sorry to inform you but Jesus is God in the flesh.

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jesus is immanuel, or Emmanuel. Jesus did not claim to be God, he let his own disciples and followers declare it.

Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jhn 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Jhn 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

If you are unable to understand this, the reason is because you live in darkness. Not darkness that you would see with your eyes, but spiritual darkness. A darkness that is so dark and overbearing that only the light of God has a chance of piercing.

There is no one on this world but Jesus that has ever done all good. Everything Jesus did he did not for himself, but for all of us.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Yes that includes even you, my friend. But Satan comes as a devouring lion.

1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Satan wishes to do nothing but destroy you

Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

But Jesus comes to give you live.

Yes that will cause division.
Yes that will cause some to hate you.
Yes you will be persecuted.

But he that hates you hates God even more. He that persecutes you persecutes God.

Satan has caught you in a great lie. That lie is to make you think that he is Jesus. But he is not, Jesus sought not his will, but his father's will.

Not my will but thine be done.

All power and glory and honor belongs to God almighty.

Trust and obey for there is no other way.

Turn your hardened heart to God.
Ask him to forgive you.
Admit to him your a sinner.
Plead your case for hell.
Then cry for mercy and believe on Jesus.

Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Do you not want to be with God.
He loves you.
He sent his very own son to die for you.

Love ya in Jesus and hope to see ya in heaven.

Scott.
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talk72000
 
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Fri 26 May, 2006 09:35 pm
Emanuel is certainly not Jesus. Maybe your retards in your church may put up with this nonsense.
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talk72000
 
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Fri 26 May, 2006 09:37 pm
your Jesus is Lucifer so he can't do anything. He is in hell. You are welcome to him and hell.
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Scott777ab
 
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Sat 27 May, 2006 09:00 pm
talk72000 wrote:
Emanuel is certainly not Jesus. Maybe your retards in your church may put up with this nonsense.


Yes Emmanuel certainly is Jesus.

Jesus is the LORD that led the Isrealites through the desert.
Jesus is the LORD that parted the sea.
Jesus is the LORD the created Adam and Eve.
Jesus is the LORD that walked in the cool of the morning in the garden.
Jesus is the great I am that I am.

Every Knee should bow and confess his name.
Even Lucifer will bow his Knee one day to Jesus.

This is Jesus the True God look up and read these verses

ALIVE FOR EVERMORE
Rev 1:18

THE ALMIGHTY
Rev 1:8

ALPHA
Rev 1:8

ALPHA AND OMEGA
Rev 22:13

THE AMEN
Rev 3:14

ANCIENT OF DAYS
Dan 7:9,22

WHICH ART
Rev 11:17

BEGINNING
Rev 1:8

BEGINNING AND THE END
Rev 22:13

BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF GOD
Rev 3:14

MY BELOVED
Mt 12:18

BLESSED
Ps 72:17; 89:52

BLESSED HOPE
Titus 2:13

BRANCH
Zech 3:8; 6:12

BRANCH OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
Jere 33:15

BREAKER
Mic 2:13

BRIDEGROOM
Mk 2:20; Mt 25:1,6; Lk 5:34

BRIGHTNESS
Isa 60:3

YOUNG CHILD
Mt 2:9

CHILDREN'S BREAD
Mt 15:26; Mk 7:27

THE CHILDREN'S CRUMBS
Mk 7:28

THE CHRIST
Mt 16:16,20; Mk 8:29; 14:61; Lk 4:41

HEAD OF THE CORNER
Mt 21:42; Mk 12:10

PRECIOUS CORNER STONE
Isa 28:16

COUNSELOR
Isa 9:6

CREATOR OF THE ENDS OF THE EARTH
Isa 40:28

HE THATÂ…WAS DEAD
Rev 1:18

MY DELIVERER
2 Sam 22:2

THE END
Rev 21:6

THE ENDING
Rev 1:8

EMMANUEL
Mt 1:23

EVERLASTING
Isa 63:16

EVERLASTING FATHER
Isa 9:6

EVERLASTING LIGHT
Isa 60:19,20

FAITHFUL AND TRUE
Rev 19:11

FAITHFUL WITNESS
Rev 1:5; 3:14

FATHER OF LIGHTS
Ja 1:17

THE FIRST
Rev 1:11; Isa 41:4

FIRST AND THE LAST
Rev 2:8; 22:13

FIRST BEGOTTEN OF THE DEAD
Rev 1:5

MY FORTRESS
2 Sam 22:2

FOUNTAIN OF LIVING WATERS
Jere 2:13; 17:13

SURE FOUNDATION
Isa 28:16

A JUST GOD
Isa 45:21

EVERLASTING GOD
Isa 40:28

GOD ALMIGHTY
Ex 6:3

GOD MOST HIGH
Ps 57:2; 91:1; 92:1,8

GOD MY ROCK
Ps 42:9

GOD OF ALL FLESH
Jere 32:27

GOD OF DAVID
Isa 38:5

GOD OF GODS
Ps 136:2; Dan 11:36

GOD OF HEAVEN
Ps 136:26; Dan 2:18,19,37

GOD OF HIS FATHERS
Dan 11:37

GOD OF HOSTS
Ps 80:7,14,19

GOD OF ISRAEL
Ex 5:1; Isa 21:10; 24:15; 37:16; 41:17; 45:3,15; 48:1,2; 52:12; Ps 68:8; 72:18; Jere 7:3,21; 29:4,8,25; 30:2; 31:23; 32:14,36; 34:13; 35:13,17,19; plus many more

GOD OF MY ROCK
2 Sam 22:3

GOD OF OUR SALVATION
Ps 65:5; 79:9; Isa 17:10

GOD OF THE HEBREWS
Ex 5:3

GOD OF THE WHOLE EARTH
Isa 54:5

GOD OF THY FATHER
Ex 3:6; Gen 46:3

GOD OF TRUTH
Ps 31:5; Isa 65:16

GOD THY GLORY
Isa 60:19

GOD WITH US
Mt 1:23

GREAT GOD
Pv 26:10; Titus 2:13

HIGH GOD
Dan 4:2

I AM GOD
Ps 50:7; Isa 43:12; 45:22; 46:9

LIVING GOD
Isa 37:17; Jere 10:10; Hos 1:10; Dan 6:20,26

THE LORD THY GOD
Deut 28:58

MIGHTY GOD
Ps 50:1; Isa 9:6

MOST HIGH GOD
Dan 5:18

MY GOD
Isa 25:1,9

THOU ART GOD
Ps 90:2; 100:3

THY GOD
Isa 41:10,13; 51:22; 54:6; 55:5

TRUE GOD
Jere 10:10

YOUR GOD
Zech 6:15

GOODMAN OF THE HOUSE
Mt 20:11

GOOD MASTER
Mt 19:16

GOVERNOR
Ps 22:28; Mt 2:6

GREAT ONE
Isa 19:20

THE HEAD STONE
Ps 118:22

THE HEIR
Mk 12:7

THOU MOST HIGH
Ps 56:2; 91:9; Dan 4:34

HIGH AND LOFTY ONE
Isa 57:15

THE HIGHEST
Ps 87:5; Lk 1:76

HOLY
Isa 57:15

HOLY AND REVEREND IS HIS NAME
Ps 111:9

HOLY IS HIS NAME
Lk 1:48,49

HOLY ONE
Isa 10:17; 40:25; 43:15; 49:7

HOLY ONE OF GOD
Lk 4:34

HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL
Ps 71:22; 78:41; Isa 12:6; 29:19; 30:11,12,15; 31:1; 37:23; 41:14,16,20; 43:14; 45:11; 47:4; 48:17; 49:7; 54:5; 55:5; 60:14

HOLY ONE OF JACOB
Isa 29:23

And a whole lot more that I did not post.
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Scott777ab
 
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Sat 27 May, 2006 09:01 pm
Acts 3:20,21-AND HE SHALL SEND JESUS CHRIST, WHICH BEFORE WAS PREACHED UNTO YOU. WHOM THE HEAVEN MUST RECEIVE UNTIL THE TIMES OF RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS, WHICH GOD HATH SPOKEN BY THE MOUTH OF ALL HIS HOLY PROPHETS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN.
Acts 15:16-AFTER THIS I WILL RETURN, AND WILL BUILD AGAIN THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID, WHICH IS FALLEN DOWN; AND I WILL BUILD AGAIN THE RUINS THEREOF, AND I WILL SET IT UP.
1 Chr 16:33-THEN SHALL THE TREES OF THE WOOD SING OUT AT THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, BECAUSE HE COMETH TO JUDGE THE EARTH.
1 Cor 1:7-SO THAT YE COME BEHIND IN NO GIFT; WAITING FOR THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
1 Cor 4:5-THEREFORE JUDGE NOTHING BEFORE THE TIME, UNTIL THE LORD COME, WHO BOTH WILL BRING TO LIGHT THE HIDDEN THINGS OF DARKNESS, AND WILL MAKE MANIFEST THE COUNSELS OF THE HEARTS: AND THEN SHALL EVERY MAN HAVE PRAISE OF GOD.
1 Cor 11:26-FOR AS OFTEN AS YE EAT THIS BREAD, AND DRINK THIS CUP, YE DO SHOW THE LORD'S DEATH TILL HE COME.
1 Cor 13:10-BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT IS COME, THEN THAT WHICH IS IN PART SHALL BE DONE AWAY.
Col 3:4-WHEN CHRIST, WHO IS OUR LIFE, SHALL APPEAR, THEN SHALL YE ALSO APPEAR WITH HIM IN GLORY.
Dan 7:9-I BEHELD TILL THE THRONES WERE CAST DOWN, AND THE ANCIENT OF DAYS DID SIT, WHOSE GARMENT WAS WHITE AS SNOW, AND THE HAIR OF HIS HEAD LIKE THE PURE WOOL: HIS THRONE WAS LIKE THE FIERY FLAME, AND HIS WHEELS AS BURNING FIRE. This shows Jesus had returned.
Dan 7:22-UNTIL THE ANCIENT OF DAYS CAME, AND JUDGMENT WAS GIVEN TO THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH; AND THE TIME CAME THAT THE SAINTS POSSESSED THE KINGDOM.
Dan 9:24-SEVENTY WEEKS ARE DETERMINED UPON THY PEOPLE AND UPON THY HOLY CITY, TO FINISH THE TRANSGRESSION, AND TO MAKE AN END OF SINS, AND TO MAKE RECONCILIATION FOR INIQUITY, AND TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND TO SEAL UP THE VISION AND PROPHECY, AND TO ANOINT THE MOST HOLY.
Ezek 21:27-I WILL OVERTURN, OVERTURN, OVERTURN, IT: AND IT SHALL BE NO MORE, UNTIL HE COME WHOSE RIGHT IT IS; AND I WILL GIVE IT HIM.
Ezek 43:2-AND, BEHOLD, THE GLORY OF THE GOD OF ISRAEL CAME FROM THE WAY OF THE EAST: AND HIS VOICE WAS LIKE A NOISE OF MANY WATERS: AND THE EARTH SHINED WITH HIS GLORY.
Ezek 44:2-THEN SAID THE LORD UNTO ME; THIS GATE SHALL BE SHUT, IT SHALL NOT BE OPENED, AND NO MAN SHALL ENTER IN BY IT; BECAUSE THE LORD, THE GOD OF ISRAEL, HATH ENTERED IN BY IT, THEREFORE IT SHALL BE SHUT.
Ezek 44:3-IT IS FOR THE PRINCE; THE PRINCE, HE SHALL SIT IN IT TO EAT BREAD BEFORE THE LORD; HE SHALL ENTER BY THE WAY OF THE PORCH OF THAT GATE, AND SHALL GO OUT BY THE WAY OF THE SAME.
Gen 49:10-THE SCEPTER SHALL NOT DEPART FROM JUDAH, NOR A LAWGIVER FROM BETWEEN HIS FEET, UNTIL SHILOH COME; AND UNTO HIM SHALL THE GATHERING OF THE PEOPLE BE.
Hab 3:3-GOD CAME FROM TEMAN, AND THE HOLY ONE FROM MOUNT PARAN. SELAH. HIS GLORY COVERED THE HEAVENS, AND THE EARTH WAS FULL OF HIS PRAISE. This appears to cover the past, but relates to the future also.
Hag 2:7-AND I WILL SHAKE ALL NATIONS, AND THE DESIRE OF ALL NATIONS SHALL COME: AND I WILL FILL THIS HOUSE WITH GLORY, SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS.
Heb 10:37-FOR YET A LITTLE WHILE, AND HE THAT SHALL COME WILL COME, AND WILL NOT TARRY.
Hos 6:3-THEN SHALL WE KNOW, IF WE FOLLOW ON TO KNOW THE LORD: HIS GOING FORTH IS PREPARED AS THE MORNING; AND HE SHALL COME UNTO US AS THE RAIN, AS THE LATTER AND FORMER RAIN UNTO THE EARTH.
Hos 10:12-SOW TO YOURSELVES IN RIGHTEOUSNESS, REAP IN MERCY; BREAK UP YOUR FALLOW GROUND: FOR IT IS TIME TO SEEK THE LORD, TILL HE COME AND RAIN RIGHTEOUSNESS UPON YOU.
Isa 26:21-FOR, BEHOLD, THE LORD COMETH OUT OF HIS PLACE TO PUNISH THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH FOR THEIR INIQUITY: THE EARTH ALSO SHALL DISCLOSE HER BLOOD, AND SHALL NO MORE COVER HER SLAIN.
Isa 31:4-FOR THUS HATH THE LORD SPOKEN UNTO ME, LIKE AS THE LION AND THE YOUNG LION ROARING ON HIS PREY, WHEN A MULTITUDE OF SHEPHERDS IS CALLED FORTH AGAINST HIM, HE WILL NOT BE AFRAID OF THEIR VOICE, NOR ABASE HIMSELF FOR THE NOISE OF THEM: SO SHALL THE LORD OF HOSTS COME DOWN TO FIGHT FOR MOUNT ZION, AND FOR THE HILL THEREOF.
Isa 34:5-FOR MY SWORD SHALL BE BATHED IN HEAVEN: BEHOLD, IT SHALL COME DOWN UPON IDUMEA, AND UPON THE PEOPLE OF MY CURSE, TO JUDGMENT.
Isa 35:4-SAY TO THEM THAT ARE OF A FEARFUL HEART, BE STRONG, FEAR NOT: BEHOLD, YOUR GOD WILL COME WITH VENGEANCE, EVEN GOD WITH A RECOMPENSE; HE WILL COME AND SAVE YOU.
Isa 40:10-BEHOLD, THE LORD GOD WILL COME WITH STRONG HAND, AND HIS ARM SHALL RULE FOR HIM: BEHOLD, HIS REWARD IS WITH HIM, AND HIS WORK BEFORE HIM.
Isa 59:20-AND THE REDEEMER SHALL COME TO ZION, AND UNTO THEM THAT TURN FROM TRANSGRESSION IN JACOB, SAITH THE LORD.
Isa 62:11-BEHOLD, THE LORD HATH PROCLAIMED UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD, SAY YE TO THE DAUGHTER OF ZION, BEHOLD, THY SALVATION COMETH; BEHOLD, HIS REWARD IS WITH HIM, AND HIS WORK BEFORE HIM. Isa 66:5-HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD, YE THAT TREMBLE AT HIS WORD; YOUR BRETHREN THAT HATED YOU, THAT CAST YOU OUT FOR MY NAME'S SAKE, SAID, LET THE LORD BE GLORIFIED: BUT HE SHALL APPEAR TO YOUR JOY, AND THEY SHALL BE ASHAMED.
Isa 66:15-FOR, BEHOLD, THE LORD WILL COME WITH FIRE, AND WITH HIS CHARIOTS LIKE A WHIRLWIND, TO RENDER HIS ANGER WITH FURY, AND HIS REBUKE WITH FLAMES OF FIRE.
Ja 5:8-BE YE ALSO PATIENT; STABLISH YOUR HEARTS: FOR THE COMING OF THE LORD DRAWETH NIGH.
Job 19:25-FOR I KNOW THAT MY REDEEMER LIVETH, AND THAT HE SHALL STAND AT THE LATTER DAY UPON THE EARTH.
Jn 14:28-YE HAVE HEARD HOW I SAID UNTO YOU, I GO AWAY, AND COME AGAIN UNTO YOU. IF YE LOVED ME, YE WOULD REJOICE, BECAUSE I SAID, I GO UNTO THE FATHER: FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I.
Jn 21:22-JESUS SAITH UNTO HIM, IF I WILL THAT HE TARRY TILL I COME, WHAT IS THAT TO THEE? FOLLOW THOU ME.
I Jn 2:28-AND NOW, LITTLE CHILDREN, ABIDE IN HIM; THAT, WHEN HE SHALL APPEAR, WE MAY HAVE CONFIDENCE, AND NOT BE ASHAMED BEFORE HIM AT HIS COMING.
Jude 14-AND ENOCH ALSO, THE SEVENTH FROM ADAM, PROPHESIED OF THESE, SAYING, BEHOLD, THE LORD COMETH WITH TEN THOUSANDS OF HIS SAINTS.
Lk 3:6-AND ALL FLESH SHALL SEE THE SALVATION OF GOD.
Lk 9:26-FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL BE ASHAMED OF ME AND OF MY WORDS, OF HIM SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE ASHAMED, WHEN HE SHALL COME IN HIS OWN GLORY, AND IN HIS FATHER'S, AND OF THE HOLY ANGELS.
Lk 17:30-EVEN THUS SHALL IT BE IN THE DAY WHEN THE SON OF MAN IS REVEALED.
Lk 18:8-I TELL YOU THAT HE WILL AVENGE THEM SPEEDILY. NEVERTHELESS WHEN THE SON OF MAN COMETH, SHALL HE FIND FAITH ON THE EARTH?
Lk 19:13-AND HE CALLED HIS TEN SERVANTS, AND DELIVERED THEM TEN POUNDS, AND SAID UNTO THEM, OCCUPY TILL I COME.
Lk 21:27-AND THEN SHALL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY.
Mal 3:2-BUT WHO MAY ABIDE THE DAY OF HIS COMING? AND WHO SHALL STAND WHEN HE APPEARETH? FOR HE IS LIKE A REFINER'S FIRE, AND LIKE FULLERS' SOAP.
Mal 3:18-THEN SHALL YE RETURN, AND DISCERN BETWEEN THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE WICKED, BETWEEN HIM THAT SERVETH GOD AND HIM THAT SERVETH HIM NOT.
Mk 8:38-WHOSOEVER THEREFORE SHALL BE ASHAMED OF ME AND OF MY WORDS IN THIS ADULTEROUS AND SINFUL GENERATION; OF HIM ALSO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE ASHAMED, WHEN HE COMETH IN THE GLORY OF HIS FATHER WITH THE HOLY ANGELS.
Mk 13:26-AND THEN SHALL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN THE CLOUDS WITH GREAT POWER AND GLORY.
Mk 13:35-WATCH YE THEREFORE: FOR YE KNOW NOT WHEN THE MASTER OF THE HOUSE COMETH, AT EVEN, OR AT MIDNIGHT, OR AT THE COCKCROWING, OR IN THE MORNING.
Mk 14:62-AND JESUS SAID, I AM: AND YE SHALL SEE THE SON OF MAN SITTING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, AND COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN.
Mt 10:23-BUT WHEN THEY PERSECUTE YOU IN THIS CITY, FLEE YE INTO ANOTHER: FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, YE SHALL NOT HAVE GONE OVER THE CITIES OF ISRAEL, TILL THE SON OF MAN BE COME.
Mt 16:27-FOR THE SON OF MAN SHALL COME IN THE GLORY OF HIS FATHER WITH HIS ANGELS; AND THEN HE SHALL REWARD EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS.
Mt 16:28-VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE BE SOME STANDING HERE, WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE OF DEATH, TILL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN HIS KINGDOM.
Mt 24:27-FOR AS THE LIGHTNING COMETH OUT OF THE EAST, AND SHINETH EVEN UNTO THE WEST; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE.
Mt 24:30-AND THEN SHALL APPEAR THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN IN HEAVEN: AND THEN SHALL ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH MOURN, AND THEY SHALL SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY.
Mt 25:19-AFTER A LONG TIME THE LORD OF THOSE SERVANTS COMETH, AND RECKONETH WITH THEM.
Mt 25:31-WHEN THE SON OF MAN SHALL COME IN HIS GLORY, AND ALL THE HOLY ANGELS WITH HIM, THEN SHALL HE SIT UPON THE THRONE OF HIS GLORY.
Mt 26:64-JESUS SAITH UNTO HIM, THOU HAST SAID: NEVERTHELESS I SAY UNTO YOU, HEREAFTER SHALL YE SEE THE SON OF MAN SITTING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, AND COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN.
Mic 5:2-BUT THOU, BETHLEHEM EPHRATAH, THOUGH THOU BE LITTLE AMONG THE THOUSANDS OF JUDAH, YET OUT OF THEE SHALL HE COME FORTH UNTO ME THAT IS TO BE RULER IN ISRAEL; WHOSE GOINGS FORTH HAVE BEEN FROM OF OLD, FROM EVERLASTING.
Num 24:17-I SHALL SEE HIM, BUT NOT NOW: I SHALL BEHOLD HIM, BUT NOT NIGH: THERE SHALL COME A STAR OUT OF JACOB, AND A SCEPTER SHALL RISE OUT OF ISRAEL, AND SHALL SMITE THE CORNERS OF MOAB, AND DESTROY ALL THE CHILDREN OF SHETH. The complete fulfillment of this should be at Armageddon.
Num 24:19-OUT OF JACOB SHALL COME HE THAT SHALL HAVE DOMINION, AND SHALL DESTROY HIM THAT REMAINETH OF THE CITY.
1 Pe 1:7-THAT THE TRIAL OF YOUR FAITH, BEING MUCH MORE PRECIOUS THAN OF GOLD THAT PERISHETH, THOUGH IT BE TRIED WITH FIRE, MIGHT BE FOUND UNTO PRAISE AND HONOR AND GLORY AT THE APPEARING OF JESUS CHRIST.
2 Pe 1:16-FOR WE HAVE NOT FOLLOWED CUNNINGLY DEVISED FABLES, WHEN WE MADE KNOWN UNTO YOU THE POWER AND COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, BUT WERE EYEWITNESSES OF HIS MAJESTY.
1 Pe 4:13-BUT REJOICE, INASMUCH AS YE ARE PARTAKERS OF CHRIST'S SUFFERINGS; THAT, WHEN HIS GLORY SHALL BE REVEALED, YE MAY BE GLAD ALSO WITH EXCEEDING JOY.
Ps 24:7-LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, O YE GATES; AND BE YE LIFT UP, YE EVERLASTING DOORS; AND THE KING OF GLORY SHALL COME IN.
Ps 50:3-OUR GOD SHALL COME, AND SHALL NOT KEEP SILENCE: A FIRE SHALL DEVOUR BEFORE HIM, AND IT SHALL BE VERY TEMPESTUOUS ROUND ABOUT HIM.
Ps 72:6-HE SHALL COME DOWN LIKE RAIN UPON THE MOWN GRASS: AS SHOWERS THAT WATER THE EARTH.
Ps 96:13-BEFORE THE LORD: FOR HE COMETH, FOR HE COMETH TO JUDGE THE EARTH: HE SHALL JUDGE THE WORLD WITH RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND THE PEOPLE WITH HIS TRUTH.
Ps 97:4-HIS LIGHTNINGS ENLIGHTENED THE WORLD: THE EARTH SAW, AND TREMBLED.
Ps 97:5-THE HILLS MELTED LIKE WAX AT THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, AT THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD OF THE WHOLE EARTH.
Ps 97:6-THE HEAVENS DECLARE HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND ALL THE PEOPLE SEE HIS GLORY.
Ps 98:9-BEFORE THE LORD; FOR HE COMETH TO JUDGE THE EARTH: WITH RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL HE JUDGE THE WORLD, AND THE PEOPLE WITH EQUITY.
Ps 102:16-WHEN THE LORD SHALL BUILD UP ZION, HE SHALL APPEAR IN HIS GLORY.
Ps 118:26-BLESSED BE HE THAT COMETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD: WE HAVE BLESSED YOU OUT OF THE HOUSE OF THE LORD.
Rev 1:7-BEHOLD, HE COMETH WITH CLOUDS; AND EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, AND THEY ALSO WHICH PIERCED HIM: AND ALL KINDREDS OF THE EARTH SHALL WAIL BECAUSE OF HIM. EVEN SO, AMEN.
Rev 1:8-I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING, SAITH THE LORD, WHICH IS, AND WHICH WAS, AND WHICH IS TO COME, THE ALMIGHTY.
Rev 2:25-BUT THAT WHICH YE HAVE ALREADY HOLD FAST TILL I COME.
Rev 3:11-BEHOLD, I COME QUICKLY: HOLD THAT FAST WHICH THOU HAST, THAT NO MAN TAKE THY CROWN.
Rev 16:15-BEHOLD, I COME AS A THIEF. BLESSED IS HE THAT WATCHETH, AND KEEPETH HIS GARMENTS, LEST HE WALK NAKED, AND THEY SEE HIS SHAME.
Rev 19:11-AND I SAW HEAVEN OPENED, AND BEHOLD A WHITE HORSE; AND HE THAT SAT UPON HIM WAS CALLED FAITHFUL AND TRUE, AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE DOTH JUDGE AND MAKE WAR.
Rev 22:7-BEHOLD, I COME QUICKLY: BLESSED IS HE THAT KEEPETH THE SAYINGS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK.
Rev 22:20-HE WHICH TESTIFIETH THESE THINGS SAITH, SURELY I COME QUICKLY. AMEN. EVEN SO, COME, LORD JESUS.
Ro 11:26-AND SO ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED: AS IT IS WRITTEN, THERE SHALL COME OUT OF ZION THE DELIVERER, AND SHALL TURN AWAY UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.
2 Thes 1:7,8-AND TO YOU WHO ARE TROUBLED REST WITH US, WHEN THE LORD JESUS SHALL BE REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS MIGHTY ANGELS, IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, AND THAT OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
1 Thes 3:13-TO THE END HE MAY STABLISH YOUR HEARTS UNBLAMABLE IN HOLINESS BEFORE GOD, EVEN OUR FATHER, AT THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH ALL HIS SAINTS.
1 Thes 1:10-AND TO WAIT FOR HIS SON FROM HEAVEN, WHOM HE RAISED FROM THE DEAD, EVEN JESUS, WHICH DELIVERED US FROM THE WRATH TO COME.
2 Thes 2:8-AND THEN SHALL THAT WICKED BE REVEALED, WHOM THE LORD SHALL CONSUME WITH THE SPIRIT OF HIS MOUTH, AND SHALL DESTROY WITH THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING.
1 Tim 6:14-THAT THOU KEEP THIS COMMANDMENT WITHOUT SPOT, UNREBUKEABLE, UNTIL THE APPEARING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
2 Tim 4:1-I CHARGE THEE THEREFORE BEFORE GOD, AND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, WHO SHALL JUDGE THE QUICK AND THE DEAD AT HIS APPEARING AND HIS KINGDOM.
2 Tim 4:8-HENCEFORTH THERE IS LAID UP FOR ME A CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, WHICH THE LORDÂ…SHALL GIVE ME AT THAT DAY: AND NOT TO ME ONLY, BUT UNTO ALL THEM ALSO THAT LOVE HIS APPEARING.
Zech 2:10-SING AND REJOICE, O DAUGHTER OF ZION: FOR, LO, I COME, AND I WILL DWELL IN THE MIDST OF THEE, SAITH THE LORD.
Zech 3:8-HEAR NOW, O JOSHUA THE HIGH PRIEST, THOU, AND THY FELLOWS THAT SIT BEFORE THEE: FOR THEY ARE MEN WONDERED AT: FOR, BEHOLD, I WILL BRING FORTH MY SERVANT THE BRANCH.
Zech 6:12,13-AND SPEAK UNTO HIM, SAYING, THUS SPEAKETH THE LORD OF HOSTS, SAYING, BEHOLD THE MAN WHOSE NAME IS THE BRANCH; AND HE SHALL GROW UP OUT OF HIS PLACE, AND HE SHALL BUILD THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD: EVEN HE SHALL BUILD THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD; AND HE SHALL BEAR THE GLORY, AND SHALL SIT AND RULE UPON HIS THRONE; AND HE SHALL BE A PRIEST UPON HIS THRONE: AND THE COUNSEL OF PEACE SHALL BE BETWEEN THEM BOTH.
Zech 8:3-THUS SAITH THE LORD; I AM RETURNED UNTO ZION, AND WILL DWELL IN THE MIDST OF JERUSALEM: AND JERUSALEM SHALL BE CALLED A CITY OF TRUTH; AND THE MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD OF HOSTS THE HOLY MOUNTAIN.
Zech 9:10-AND I WILL CUT OFF THE CHARIOT FROM EPHRAIM, AND THE HORSE FROM JERUSALEM, AND THE BATTLE BOW SHALL BE CUT OFF: AND HE SHALL SPEAK PEACE UNTO THE HEATHEN: AND HIS DOMINION SHALL BE FROM SEA EVEN TO SEA, AND FROM THE RIVER EVEN TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH.
Zech 12:10-AND I WILL POUR UPON THE HOUSE OF DAVID, AND UPON THE INHABITANTS OF JERUSALEM, THE SPIRIT OF GRACE AND OF SUPPLICATIONS: AND THEY SHALL LOOK UPON ME WHOM THEY HAVE PIERCED, AND THEY SHALL MOURN FOR HIM, AS ONE MOURNETH FOR HIS ONLY SON, AND SHALL BE IN BITTERNESS FOR HIM, AS ONE THAT IS IN BITTERNESS FOR HIS FIRSTBORN.
Zech 14:3-THEN SHALL THE LORD GO FORTH, AND FIGHT AGAINST THOSE NATIONS, AS WHEN HE FOUGHT IN THE DAY OF BATTLE.
Zech 14:4-AND HIS FEET SHALL STAND IN THAT DAY UPON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES, WHICH IS BEFORE JERUSALEM ON THE EAST, AND THE MOUNT OF OLIVES SHALL CLEAVE IN THE MIDST THEREOF TOWARD THE EAST AND TOWARD THE WEST, AND THERE SHALL BE A VERY GREAT VALLEY; AND HALF OF THE MOUNTAIN SHALL REMOVE TOWARD THE NORTH, AND HALF OF IT TOWARD THE SOUTH.
Zech 14:5-AND YE SHALL FLEE TO THE VALLEY OF THE MOUNTAINS; FOR THE VALLEY OF THE MOUNTAINS SHALL REACH UNTO AZAL: YEA, YE SHALL FLEE, LIKE AS YE FLED FROM BEFORE THE EARTHQUAKE IN THE DAYS OF UZZIAH KING OF JUDAH: AND THE LORD MY GOD SHALL COME, AND ALL THE SAINTS WITH THEE.
1 Thes 2:19-FOR WHAT IS OUR HOPE, OR JOY, OR CROWN OF REJOICING? ARE NOT EVEN YE IN THE PRESENCE OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST AT HIS COMING?
Titus 2:13-LOOKING FOR THAT BLESSED HOPE, AND THE GLORIOUS APPEARING OF THE GREAT GOD AND OUR SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.
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talk72000
 
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Sat 27 May, 2006 10:26 pm
Isaiah 11:
1. And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

Joseph was descended from the line of David, but he had TWO fathers: Jacob (See Matthew 1:16) and Heli. (See Luke 3:23.) Was the gospel of Divine origin? Even the genealogy of Jesus seems suspect! But Jesus was not the son of Joseph by Mark 1 "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, The Son of God;". Jesus was NOT a descendent of Jesse therefore Jesus did not fulfill this prophecy at all. Truly, Jesus could have been a son of God; but then so was Lucifer a son of God who appeared as an Angel of Light and deceived people into thinking he was 'God' so that he would be worshipped instead of God. Could Jesus, a son of God, really be 'killed' by humans?


Luke 1:35
And the angel...said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. (My, my, my! How unholy this alliance is! This is an announcement of an act of Divine adultery as Mary was Joseph's wife and God did not seek prior permission or approval. If Joseph approved, would it not be like prostitution? This is a portrayal of God as an adulterer! Your Gospel accuses God of adultery!

Isaiah 11:
2. And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD; (Jesus had no understanding of the Law as he was on the one hand saying he came to defend every word of the Law and the prophets - mere lip-service as it were - and on the other preaching by word and deed the breaking of the Fourth and Fifth Commandments. He was inconsistent. Leading by mouth in one direction and his feet going in the opposite direction.)
3. And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: (Jesus did not "fear the LORD" as he openly preached against the Fourth and Fifth Commandments and placed himself above them.)
4. But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

Jesus did not "judge". (See Matthew 7:1-2 "Judge not, that ye be judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Again, Luke 6:37 "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned:" Also, John 8:15 "...I judge no man.")

In fact, he preached against judging. He did not "smite" but was 'smitten' as our Jewish friends say. Obviously, he did not "slay the wicked" of his day "with the breath of his lips".


Luke 12:53
The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, the daughter against the mother; the mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law. and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. (Fifth Commandment!?)
Matthew 10:37
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. (Jesus preached to "dishonour" filial relationship!)


Here Jesus teaches against family.

Jesus was not the branch nor the "root of Jesse" by blood as he was conceived by 'God', (See Luke 1:35 "...The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God." Shades of Zeus! Was not this Greek god that disguised himself as a swan to copulate with a young maiden? Some Helenization of the Hebrew God?! Also, Matthew 1:20 "...take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."), so he was a son of God but was not Lucifer reputed to be a son of God also?

See Matthew 7:6
"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs,".
Jesus' code word for gentiles, non-Jewish people, was "dogs". By this saying, Jesus did not want his teachings which are, of course, "holy" go to the "dogs"! Would anyone like to be called a dog?! Was Jesus prejudiced?


Again, Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Jesus plainly says he was not sent to preach to the gentiles so how can he "establish justice" with the gentiles if he does not feel he has to make any commitment with them?

Isaiah 11:12
"...he shall... assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."

did Jesus in recognizing the unmistakably messianic requirement of the "root of Jesse", then make up his mind in conspiring to fulfill it?

In

Matthew 10:5-6
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not; But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

He even tells his disciples not to go to gentiles so he did not fulfill the prophecy to "establish justice" among the gentiles. Jesus did not come to 'save' gentiles at all!


Isaiah 42:
2. He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. (Jesus was an itinerant preacher; he spread his gospel in the streets and open fields - a far cry from this prophecy!)
3. A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
See Matthew 21:18-19 "Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered. And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforth for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away."

This awesome display of power of destruction on an innocent plant surely does not in the least bear any resemblance to "not break a bruised reed"!

If the fig tree represented Israel then this "miracle" was a symbolic act to show his displeasure towards his own tribe for not accepting him.


Clearly, Jesus was not the servant of God who would gently preach justice to all the non-Jewish people whom Jesus looked upon as "dogs". (See Matthew 15:26 "But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and cast it to dogs.") Jesus probably had an animal code word for every group of people on the face of the earth. Ever wonder who the "pigs" and "camels" might be? Could "pigs" represent pork-eaters; "camels", descendants of Ishmael; "dogs", gentiles in general or even homosexuals; and "sheep" or "children of god", the Israelites or believers? Hello "dogs"!
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Scott777ab
 
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Mon 29 May, 2006 12:35 am
Talk I must say you are wrong in your assements but give me some time to make a informed response to your response.

But frist, I will say this about the Birth of Christ. God did not have SEX with mary. He created the body of Jesus in the womb instantly, no sex involed, no adultery involded.

Behold a virgin shall convieve.

That is the main thing that you have to take into account. Mary was a virgin.

Also the womans line of desants were used but never attributed to the woman, they were always attributed to the husband. Hence the two different genologies in the bible. Which cleary shows that Jesus is a descant of David both by Birth and Adoption.

Next we deal with him slaying the wicked. That is still future my friend. That is coming soon when he returns.

Mother against daughter etc etc. Is talking about the division that belief in jesus causes and will cause in a family. That is what Jesus means by he is loves his mom or dad more than Jesus is not worthy. God must be frist then your family. Jesus never was against honoring your mom and dad, but holding your mom and dad over God he was totally against.

All other God's are based on the Trinity. And are a pale comparsion to the Trinue God. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one.

Matt 7:6 What are the pearls if you understand that then you could understand what the rest of the verse means, till then your point is mute and unfounded.


Matt 15:24 correct that is why he sent Paul, to preach Jesus untill the Gentiles. Jesus came to save all, but to preach to his own.

Is 42 : 2 and 3 is talking about his trial and excution. Jesus was indeed silent, and the judgement unto truth is that God died for our sins, so that we may find grace, and have it more abuntely.

The fig tree was an actual tree, that did not give fruit to its creator when he wanted it, so as its his tree he can do to it as he wills.

I am not a bibical scholar Talk i will admit that, but I know your wrong. I just don't believe it, I know it. I have seen heaven opened up and seen the Son sitting at the right hand of the Father. I was fully awake and standing when I had this vision. It was like I was looking through a window pain of smoky class to obscure my sight, so that I could actually see the Father and Son, without being destroyed by their brillance and glory.

I have also had the gates of hell opened up to me in a vision.
It was a sea nay ocean of fire and sky blacker than any black any man has ever seen. I was bound upon a cross above the fire. I saw a shape in the distance come forward, and agent of death if you will that came upon me. With him he had a knife that he plunged into my chest and pulled out my heart which he then cast into the fire. As it burned, i could feel that burning in my chest. Then the cross started to desend into the fire and I burned. As my head dipped below the fire, it all started over again, and I came out of the vision.

I have seen to much to just blindly believe. I know heaven and hell are real, I have no doubts.

I Know Jesus is God.

And Lucifer is Satan.
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Scott777ab
 
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Mon 29 May, 2006 12:39 am
The biggest thing I get from reading your posts is selfishness and pride. You just don't want to think that you are wrong, or even open your heart to the possibility that you are wrong.

But the 2nd thing i get is that you might be a Jew, are you?

The 3rd thing i get is that you worship the Devil himself, or that your into some type of occult teaching.

Give me some background on yourself please. Tell me about your relgious history and how you came to believe that Jesus is Lucifer, and why you think that.

Thanks.
Scott.
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talk72000
 
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Mon 29 May, 2006 07:49 pm
I don't believe anything. Since you fundy guys take this toilet-paper bobble as true I am showing you that your bobble in straight language indicates that Jesus qualifies as Lucifer.
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Scott777ab
 
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Mon 29 May, 2006 11:17 pm
who in the world said i was a fundmentalist.

i know that i never did.
and you have yet to use straight language in your posts.

you do just as i have been doing pick and choosing a verse here and there and trying to build a doctrine on it.

i never claimed to be a christian nor will i cause then i would be lying.
But nor will i sit by and let some one make jesus into something the bible cleary shows he is not.

the bible cleary teaches that there is one god.
and that god is the lord jesus christ.
who came down from heaven and incarnated himself.
who then died for everyone sins.
and then rose again.

now the only problem that i have with the bible is that i personally think God is unjust

but then again according to the bible he is not
so then what does that make me say about god
basically that i am calling god a liar.

So dont accuse someone of being a fundy unless and until you know that they actually are.
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mesquite
 
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Tue 30 May, 2006 12:14 am
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....
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Arella Mae
 
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Tue 30 May, 2006 06:11 am
Hi Scott,

I often have trouble with Talk's posts. He has tried to convince me that Jesus is actually Lucifer (I think that's what he tried to convince me of). I can't quite follow him sometimes myself. Laughing
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talk72000
 
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Tue 30 May, 2006 08:27 am
I have given straight information showing Jesus qualifications as Lucifer nothing twisty like your Jesus is Emmanual crap. Isaiah says straight that it is Emmanual not Jesus.
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Arella Mae
 
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Tue 30 May, 2006 09:19 am
Talk, do you even know what Emmanuel means? It means, God is with us. So I'd say that blows your theory that Jesus is Lucifer. :wink:
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Scott777ab
 
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Tue 30 May, 2006 04:11 pm
talk72000 wrote:
I have given straight information showing Jesus qualifications as Lucifer nothing twisty like your Jesus is Emmanual crap. Isaiah says straight that it is Emmanual not Jesus.


Butt matt chapter ones say Immanuel is Jesus.
Sorry your wrong.
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Scott777ab
 
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Tue 30 May, 2006 04:18 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Hi Scott,

I often have trouble with Talk's posts. He has tried to convince me that Jesus is actually Lucifer (I think that's what he tried to convince me of). I can't quite follow him sometimes myself. Laughing


That is ok.
I am just finding it really funny that all these people think I think of myself as saved or born again.
WHen in actualailty i know that I am not.
Nor do I care to be.

I have some major personal problems with God.
One being that I think he is unjust.]

But i know that the bible says that God is just, so basically I am calling God a liar when i say that he is unjust and that does not bother me one little bit.

That is my personal fault and at least i can recongize that i have this fault and problem with god.

Most of the peeps who post against god are usally very self centered and have such a grave fault that they are not will to give up.

Example:
The workaholic
Here is a man or woman who goes about his or her life to aquire the best things. Yeah they may even be a good person but their whole life flows around aquring things and becoming rich. THey really don't give a snot butts about the poor but they give to the poor so that they can FEEL good, and LOOK HOLY.
Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.
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Arella Mae
 
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Tue 30 May, 2006 04:25 pm
I hear you, Scott. It seems to me that for some, just admitting that you believe in God means you are a fundamentalist Christian. I wouldn't take it too much to heart though. As long as you know who you are and what you are that is what matters.

I understand how some see God as unjust. I try to explain it this way:

God is on one end of the spectrum. Mankind is on the other. So, on one end is God, who is pure, holy, etc., to an extreme we cannot even imagine. On the other end is mankind who sins constantly and is disobedient to God. Now, if God is on a much higher level than we are, how can we judge Him as unjust by our standards? I don't think we can. I believe we are judged by God's standards and not the other way around.

But, if you do talk to God, Scott. Have it out with Him. Tell Him exactly how you feel and ask Him to show you the truth. I don't think God gets upset when we ask Him to help us with some things we don't understand. And, He is the only one with the answer to this.
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