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Uh Oh... N. Korea troubles

 
 
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jan, 2005 07:08 pm
Interesting. Thanks JW.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 09:35 am
WOW!

http://today.reuters.com/PrinterFriendlyPopup.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=uri:2005-01-17T143708Z_01_SEO289631_RTRIDST_0_INTERNATIONAL-KOREA-NORTH-DC.XML

Activist: Video Shows Dissent in Communist N.Korea
Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:37 AM ET



By Jack Kim

SEOUL (Reuters) - A South Korean group said on Monday it had obtained what it said was the first visual evidence of dissent in communist North Korea that indicated an organized attempt at a movement against its leader, Kim Jong-il.

A 35-minute video clip viewed by Reuters showed a portrait of Kim taken inside a factory building and defaced by writing that demanded freedom and democracy.

Such an act would be considered a grave crime in the North and bring capital punishment without trial to the perpetrator, said Do Hee-youn, who heads the South Korean group that made the clip available.

"It's no ordinary group of people who took this video," Do told Reuters. He represents the Seoul-based Citizens' Coalition for Human Rights of Abductees and North Korean Refugees.

The footage was obtained through a network of activists operating in China from a group of young North Koreans who taped it in the North's northeastern border city of Hoeryong.

"The gentle and ordinary people of North Korea need a new leader," a male voice narrates in the background as the clip showed the defaced portrait of Kim in full military uniform.

Kim inherited the leadership of the world's most reclusive communist state in 1994 on the death of his father, Kim Il-sung. He rules as chairman of the powerful national defense commission.

"There is a great potential for democracy in this country," the narrator said.

Do said the group who took the footage were people who would be able to exercise influence on the North Korean public, but declined to say whether they were members of the North's communist party or the military.

Still frames captured from the clip and a partial transcript were made available Monday on a Web site (www.dailynk.com) operated by a group of former North Korean defectors and refugees who have settled in the South.

The group, the Network for North Korean Democracy and Human Rights, is headed by the highest ranking North Korean official to defect to the South, Hwang Jang-yop.

"Down with Kim Jong-il. Let's all rise to drive out the dictatorial regime," read the poster seen on the wall inside a factory.

The footage, said to be taken in November, showed a largely deserted and run-down town with patches of snow on the ground.

The only sign of life was in an area beside a railroad crossing where people were seen selling grain and household supplies.

One vendor sold tobacco leaves and scraps of Rodong Sinmun, mouthpiece of North Korea's ruling Workers' Party.

Do said the people who organized production of the clip were taking a great risk to their own safety.

"But the risky nature of this also shows that these are people who have a good understanding of the regime and are ready to make a bold move against it," Do said.

Persistent reports of a possible weakening of Kim's grip on power surfaced last year but have been largely discredited by South Korean officials and foreign officials who visited Pyongyang.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 10:46 am
Holy crap! How long has it been since there was a demonstration of any kind in NK? Shocked
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 10:56 am
None, to my knowledge. My first thoughts on reading this were "SOMEONE HELP THESE PEOPLE"!!!

As an aside, I read somewhere recently that on average, South Koreans are 3" taller than North Koreans (malnutrition being the obvious culprit in stunting growth).

Wonder if those statistics had to be smuggled out as well.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 11:35 am
JustWonders wrote:

As an aside, I read somewhere recently that on average, South Koreans are 3" taller than North Koreans (malnutrition being the obvious culprit in stunting growth).

Wonder if those statistics had to be smuggled out as well.


The original article isn't online anymore nor in the (free) archives, but it was published in March 2004 in the Baltimore Sun and the Los Angeles Times:

Quote:


http://marmot.blogs.com/korea/fat_koreans-thumb.jpghttp://marmot.blogs.com/korea/fat_koreans2-thumb.jpg
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 11:43 am
Thanks, Walter. I always know we can count on you Smile
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 07:08 am
Quote:
Notebook
Notes from Underground
A smuggled video appears to show dissent alive and kicking in North Korea


BY DONALD MACINTYRE | SEOUL


Monday, Jan. 24, 2005

U.S. President George W. Bush was likely including North Koreans when, in last Thursday's inaugural address, he vowed: "When you stand for your liberty, we will stand with you." Some residents of the authoritarian state may not need much encouragement: earlier in the week, a Seoul-based human-rights group released an anti-regime video that it says was produced by dissidents in the North. Following some jerky shots of a market, a high school and a factory, the camera pans across a poster that declares: "Down with Kim Jong Il!" in Korean characters scrawled in red ink. "People, let's all rise up and drive out the dictatorship!" The video ends with a shot of anti-Kim graffiti scrawled over an official portrait of North Korea's Dear Leader. A voice off-camera urges the U.S. and other countries to "help our movement to overthrow Kim Jong Il's authoritarian regime."

http://a740.g.akamai.net/f/740/606/1d/image.pathfinder.com/time/asia/magazine/2005/0131/nk_video.jpgActivist Do Hee Yun says dissidents in the North produced the anti-Kim film
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 09:54 am
Wow! Thank you Walter!

Something strange is a happening here. What it is ain't exact-i-ly clear...
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 04:03 pm
What on earth can be going on here? Rationing the rations? Wonder if he's trying to keep them too weak to revolt?


NORTH KOREA SLASHES FOOD RATIONS

North Korea has cut food rations to just half the amount recommended by the World Food Programme, the UN food agency says. WFP monitors say government handouts have been cut from 300g (10.5oz) of cereals a day to 250g.

The UN says 16 million North Koreans rely on the rations.

A WFP spokesman told BBC News that many people would be unable to supplement their allocation of maize, rice and potatoes with any meat or vegetables.

"Prices of basic foods in private markets have increased substantially - they're beyond the means of many people. Supplementing the ration has been increasingly difficult," said Gerald Bourke, the WFP's public affairs officer for Asia.

Market forces?

Most of the worst-affected people are in North Korea's cities, he told the BBC News website.

A UN report last year said private farmers' markets, which were meant to alleviate chronic hunger, had instead sparked spiralling inflation.

It said 1kg (2.2lb) of rice now costs 30% of the average monthly wage.

HOW MUCH IS 250 GRAMS?
Two medium-sized bowls of rice; total 350 calories OR
Five small potatoes or two medium-sized potatoes; total 180 calories

The reasoning behind Pyongyang's decision to cut rations is unclear.

But North Korea watchers speculate that the government may be acting to encourage the focus of food distribution towards the farmers' markets - despite the fact that in the short term this may leave some people hungry.

They say farmers have been holding back some of their harvest to sell on the farmers' markets, where they can receive much better prices than by selling to the government-run distribution system.

It has been suggested that the government's action may be part of recent initiatives to allow market forces to begin asserting themselves in the hitherto strictly state-controlled country.

The cuts come despite what was thought to be the impoverished country's best harvest in 10 years in September and October.

Mr Bourke said the ration level is set every month, but early indications suggested that the cuts would last until the middle of 2005.

"As of now we have sufficient cereals to feed all the six-and-a-half million people we seek to feed in North Korea until June.

"But those rations are projected on a basis of public distribution of 300g - so we need to see how this changes now," he said.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2005 02:07 am
From today's Independant

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There was speculation that the move may have been prompted by the economic reforms in North Korea, which have led to the introduction of farmers' markets. It could be that the government wants to encourage the privatisation measures, which have led to farmers holding back some of their produce that would otherwise go into the public distribution system. But the 16 million Koreans who depend on the government rations are likely to go hungry as a result.

James Morris, the executive director of the World Food Programme, said he did not know why the North Korean government had cut the rations, but there was much concern about the long-term impact on children. The WFP distributes aid to 6.5 million of the most vulnerable people in North Korea, including nursing mothers and children.

He said: "You look at the average seven-year-old North Korean boy and compare him to the average seven-year-old South Korean boy, he's 20cm shorter and 10kg lighter.

"The future of the Korean peninsula is tied to the development of these children who are showing signs not only of the famine years in the 1990s but also from inadequate nutrition in general. A child who's compromised early in life will never recover, in terms of intellectual and physical development."

Mr Morris stressed that the WFP food supplements, distributed through orphanages, hospitals and schools, would not be affected by the government decision which concerns the public distribution system. "There's no reason for our ration to be cut," he said.

Gerald Bourke, the World Food Programme's public affairs officer for Asia, said the cut was likely to be in effect at least until the middle of the year. "That it is this early in the year is of concern," Mr Bourke said.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2005 08:24 am
That bastard. How can the world just stand by and watch this horror? Crying or Very sad Thanks for the stories, guys.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 09:58 am
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=SHPWTPOSGEQFOCRBAEZSFFA?type=worldNews&storyID=7452415


N.Korea Has Bought Complete Nuclear Bomb - Report
Thu Jan 27, 2005 08:51 AM ET

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea appears to have bought a complete nuclear weapon from either Pakistan or a former Soviet Union state, a South Korean newspaper said on Thursday quoting a source in Washington.Seoul Shinmun quoted the source as saying the United States was checking the intelligence.

The purchase was apparently intended to avoid nuclear weapons testing that could be detected from the outside, the source was quoted as saying.

North Korea is believed to have one or two nuclear weapons and possibly more than eight.

U.S. Congressman Curt Weldon said after a visit to the North this month that its second-ranked leader had told his delegation that it possessed nuclear weapons.

Pyongyang has declared that a nuclear reactor at Yongbyon, sealed under a 1994 agreement with the United States, had been restarted. Spent nuclear fuel from that reactor could be converted to weapons-grade material.

North Korea has never officially declared that it possessed atomic weapons, speaking instead of its "nuclear deterrent."

U.S. experts who visited the Yongbyon facility said spent plutonium previously stored there had been removed.

North Korea is suspected of running a separate program based on uranium enrichment technology, assisted by a former top Pakistani nuclear scientist.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 10:00 am
Seoul Shinmun quoted the source as saying the US was checking the intelligence.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2005 12:18 pm
Quote:
http://english.chosun.com/new/n_img/f_logo.gif

Jan.28,2005

N. Korea No Longer 'Main Enemy' in Defense White Paper


The Ministry of Defense said Friday it ill scrap the term "main enemy" in reference to North Korea in a defense white paper for 2004. Instead, it will refer to Pyongyang as a "direct military threat" in the paper due on Feb. 4. This would be the first time in 10 years that the North has not been designated Seoul¡¯s "main enemy" in a defense white paper.

The ministry took the measure in order to smooth ruffled feathers in Pyongyang as well as parts of South Korean society, allowing it to resume publication of the white paper, which had stalled since 2000 due to disputes over the designation. In intra-Korean meetings since the June 2000 summit, North Korea has persistently asked for the "main enemy" terminology to be scrapped.

In a press release, the Defense Ministry said it decided to make the change since no other nation in the world designated anyone ¡°the enemy¡± and because Pyongyang was also restraining itself from using a directly hostile term for the South.


But the ministry added that even if the terminology changed, the concept remained the same. Textbooks for soldiers and other internal Defense Ministry documents would continue to use the term "enemy."
Current military textbooks say, "The North Korean regime and North Korean military that obeys it are the core enemies that have been continuously threatening our existence and prosperity... The North Korean military, North Korea's reserve fighting strength, the Korean Workers Party and North Korean government institutions are the enemy of the military of the ROK."

One Army field officer said, "Because of the atmosphere of intra-Korean reconciliation and cooperation, it has become difficult to give our soldiers psychological training, and it will get even tougher in the future."
The term "main enemy" was first used in the 1995 defense white paper after the deepening North Korean nuclear crisis and a March 1994 threat to turn Seoul into a "sea of fire" made by a North Korean negotiator during intra-Korean contacts in Panmunjeom. The term stayed in continuous use until 2000.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 11:23 am
This site (in PDF) might be inetersting, if you want to re-read what happened in the relation USA<>Korea during the last time:

North Korea: A Chronology of Events, October 2002-December 2004
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 01:20 pm
Thanks Walter.
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Asherman
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 01:27 pm
Walter,

Nice brief, and well worth the reading by folks who don't keep a close eye on the Korean situation. The DPRK has not historically responded well to negotiations. They take hardline positions that are clearly unacceptable, and issue loud threats. If they see any retreat from the opposition, they press for more concessions, and increase their threat level. Only when they believe that effective force will be utilized to break the stalemate that they've created will they hesitate, and make a concession. DPRK concessions are usually minimal, and their promises are worthless.

One would suppose that when conditions within a nation becomes desperate, that they would be more tractable. Not so with the DPRK. Widespread famine and malnutrition seems to have little effect on Kim Jong-Il's policies. Repression and oppression within the DPRK are so extensive, that internal revolt has little chance of success as things have been for the last 25 years. Eventually, there is no doubt that the Kim Dynasty will collapse of its own failings, but that day is probably still years into the future.

The US, PRC, and the Russians want regional stability. US SOG sees stability requiring regime change, and PRC fears the chaos that would follow the fall of the existing regime. Japan wants stability, but insists that its citizens who were kidnapped be accounted for first. Both DPRK and ROK want reunification, but on their own terms. The younger generation in the ROK have come to believe that the DPRK is no threat, while the older generation remember the aggression and murders of the 1950s. The biggest stumbling block was, is and will be the DPRK's intransigent policies, negotiation style, and clear intent to extend their despotism throughout the peninsula.

My take on the situation is to take a tough stance re. the DPRK, and remain vigilant though the probability of an attack south into ROK is currently low. We should be prepared to lend humanitarian assistance through the ROK in the event that Jong-Il's regime collapses. I think it might be a good idea to reach some confidential agreements with the PRC about what steps we each would take in the event of a DPRK collapse so as to minimize risks. Japan and Russia have stakes in the region, but are unlikely to be front-line active players. ROK will not initiate military conflict, nor is it likely that the US will return to open military conflict unless greatly provoked. Conditions in the DPRK for most people are terrible and will probably get worse, but the chance of successful revolt is near zero at this time. This is a long term and complex problem that has been ongoing for fifty years, and it will probably continue for at another decade, or so.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 03:48 pm
Quote:
The Hermit Nuclear Kingdom
By Nicholas D. Kristof
Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader: North Korea and the Kim Dynasty
by Bradley K. Martin
Thomas Dunne/St. Martin's, 868 pp., $29.95

Nuclear North Korea: A Debate on Engagement Strategies
by Victor D. Cha and David C. Kang
Columbia University Press, 265 pp., $24.50

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North Korea is the most secretive country in the world today, with its main railway lined with walls so high that its foreign passengers can't see the countryside. It is also, as Brad-ley Martin's book makes clear, the most repressive and brutal country in the world, with entire families sometimes executed if one member gets drunk and slights the Dear Leader. It is at the same time by far the most totalitarian, with nearly every home equipped with a speaker that issues propaganda from morning to night. It is the country most defiant of the West, whose leaders not only counterfeit US $100 bills but also are building nuclear warheads. North Korea is also, along with Iraq, the country where President Bush has most seriously bungled US foreign policy, and has made the world more dangerous and unstable. Finally, North Korea is perhaps the least understood place on earth. There is no firm agreement on such basic facts as whether Kim Jong Il is a playboy or a savvy leader who constantly monitors the Internet and CNN...
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 11:23 pm
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 08:53 am
Just in:

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Monday January 31

U.S. has proposal for N.Korea

TOKYO (Reuters) - The United States has a serious proposal for North Korea and is ready to discuss it at six-party talks on Pyongyang's nuclear weapons programmes, a senior U.S. official has been quoted as saying.
"We are ready to go. We have a serious proposal. And we are ready to discuss it without preconditions," Kyodo news agency on Monday quoted Michael Green, senior director for Asia on the National Security Council, as telling reporters in Tokyo.

He gave no details of the proposal.

Green made the remarks after visiting officials at the Prime Minister's Office, Kyodo said.

North Korea has joined the United States, China, South Korea, Japan and Russia for three rounds of nuclear talks since August 2003. China has played host to the negotiations.

Pyongyang boycotted a fourth round, originally set for last September, and has said it would watch how U.S. policy towards it shapes up before deciding whether to return to the talks.

Green urged Pyongyang to show up at a fresh round of six-party talks, Kyodo said.

Later, in a report from Beijing, Kyodo quoted diplomatic sources as saying Green would arrive in the Chinese capital late on Monday for talks expected to cover the resumption of the six-way talks on North Korea's nuclear ambitions.

Kyodo quoted Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi as saying Tokyo was considering specific steps to put pressure on North Korea to reach solutions on various issues, while keeping talks going.

"We are considering how to resolve the abduction, nuclear and other issues comprehensively and what measures are effective to that end both in terms of dialogue and pressure," Koizumi was quoted as telling reporters.

A feud between Japan and North Korea has intensified since November, when bones handed over to Japanese diplomats were found after DNA tests not to be those of Japanese citizens abducted by North Koreaa in the 1970s and 1980s to teach its spies about Japan.

Pyongyang accused Tokyo last Wednesday of fabricating the DNA test results, and Japanese officials said they would consider stiff measures including economic sanctions against the North.

Last week, Japanese diplomatic sources said China had proposed holding working level talks to pave the way for a fourth round of six-party talks.

The proposal was made as the international community is trying to persuade the reclusive communist state to abandon its nuclear weapons programmes.

U.S. officials say communist North Korea may have more than eight nuclear weapons and Bush once branded the North as part of an "axis of evil" along with Iran and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

In return for scrapping its nuclear weapons programme, Pyongyang demands security assurances from the United States as well as energy and other economic aid.

The standoff began in October 2002 when the United States said North Korea had said it had a secret programme based on highly enriched uranium as well as a plutonium scheme that it had put on hold. Pyongyang later denied having a uranium project.
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