AP reports that Kerry concedes!!!!

I never said I underestimated them.

Boy, you really are pissed about this election, aren't you?

And I never said I was pissed.

I'm worried about Frank, I think that I heard a loud scream right after Kerry's speech.......

Good speech, but I saw that he was not happy and mainly tired from the campaign.

Of course he was sad....he just lost. And even though I didn't vote for him, I do have to give him credit for his graceful step-down. He could have been a real prick about it. I truely think that he thought he could win and this has to be devestating.

I'm disappointed that he conceded. Some people who voted, and whose votes will now not be counted, will probably never vote again. Others won't ever bother as a result of this. At least Bush fought for his E.C. votes in 2000. People thought their votes counted. It's like a little death of a part of American democracy.

ehBeth:

It IS a partial death of the American democracy.

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Of course he was sad....he just lost. And even though I didn't vote for him, I do have to give him credit for his graceful step-down. He could have been a real prick about it. I truely think that he thought he could win and this has to be devestating.[/quote]

I agree. I now have a thimble full of respect for Kerry.

What happened yesterday IS Democracy in action in this great country.

And I would say the same had Kerry been elected. Do you know of a better way, dookie?

Senator Jim Jeffords from Vermont, who left the Republicans in protest in 2001.

The House has an independent too, Bernie Saunders. Also from Vermont. Socialist. (No, really.)

It's posts like this that would make one think "France" has a point ...

Lol, Im startin to see France's point. American arrogance is at an alltime high.

But has yet to reach French arrogance

Having rescued their sorry asses from the Germans twice, it is understandable we might feel a little superior to the French.

Let's not forget that they saved our asses when we decided to actually BE a nation.

And lets not forget that they dragged us into Vietnam. I think that saving them in ww1 and ww2 kind of more than evens out them sending over a few ships in the 1700's.

No comparison of the French commitment to our Revolution and WWI and WWII.

Well, for their own reasons ... they were engaged in what for centuries had been an on-again-off-again war with the British at the time, The French went with the theory "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Freind" tack and aided The American Revolution. Noticing the success of "The Grand Experiment", The French then borrowed the idea of stepping out from under the heel of royalty and embarked upon their own revolution, gaining for themselves by the bloody endeavor and inflicting upon the world the greatest tyrant the world had seen from the time of the Caesars. A century after Napoleon's departure, the ancestor of the coalition formed to thwart his hegemonistic aims grabbed what it perceived to be an unsufferably arrogant France (look up the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 )by the throat, threatening her very existence as a nation.

Britain, a former partner in that coalition, and former enemy of France, along with The United States, stood against The Kaiser, rescuing France from certain defeat. An upshot of the 1st World War was the collapse of the Russian monarchy and the birth of The Soviet Union, along with the setting of the stage for Nazi Germany and the next World War. Once again Britain and The United States rescued France, this time from not merely certain but in fact accomplished defeat accompanied by foreign occupation. Following their second salvation, the French embroiled Britain and The US in her own failed Colonial Wars, withdrew from NATO, the bulwark against the Soviet Union, for the birth of which France had some responsibility, and essentially opposed both Britain and The US throughout the post-WWII era.

The ultimate French gesture opf gratitude to Britain and The US was to side with the successors to Germany and The Soviet Union against The British and The US effort to take steps to finally put an end to the Middle Eastern instability which in no small part was an outgrowth of France's own failed African policies.

Gee, France ... thanks a lot.