The U.N. Gun Ban Treaty - Gun Owners Beware

Well, oralloy would like someone to shoot her. Would like the government to shoot her. Literally.

I couldn't believe it either, but that's what he confirmed.

That doesn't make you want to distinguish your own position from his? Funny, that. If someone comes on here to defend one of my pet topics (say, the ICC), but seriously adds a call to, say, hang all neoconservatives, I would feel the unrepressable urge to take a stand against him - more so because he is ostensibly 'on my side'. Huh. Question of character, I guess. Or really being unable to muster any respect whatsoever for someone who disagrees with you on this topic.

Yes - but they aren't REAL freedoms - freedom is, it seems, a gun.

Well, I've heard that in some US states you don't have the freedom to smoke in (free air) beergardens. As far as I know, you are not allowed to travel with dogs in trains, drive faster than 70 mph, marry whom you want (e.g. someone of the same sex), can't (or only with severe restrictions) travel where you want (e.g. to Cuba) ...

no need to worry any longer about gun control cjhsa.....your boy's in....soon any man woman or child will be able to own any freakin' gun they want as easily as getting a candy bar....happy days!!!!

Walter Hinteler wrote:

You should use this for an avatar oralloy.

nimh wrote:

Well, oralloy would like someone to shoot her. Would like the government to shoot her. Literally.

I couldn't believe it either, but that's what he confirmed.

That doesn't make you want to distinguish your own position from his? Funny, that. If someone comes on here to defend one of my pet topics (say, the ICC), but seriously adds a call to, say, hang all neoconservatives, I would feel the unrepressable urge to take a stand against him - more so because he is ostensibly 'on my side'. Huh. Question of character, I guess. Or really being unable to muster any respect whatsoever for someone who disagrees with you on this topic.

Actually, since Bush was reelected, I see this group as less of a threat to our rights, so I don't see a need to have our military take action against them anymore.

For whatever reason, Bush seems to not like treaties much, and I see no danger that he will sign this one.

U.N. OKs study of small-arms control

By EDWARD HARRIS, Associated Press Writer
Fri Oct 27 2006, 12:25 AM ET

UNITED NATIONS - A key United Nations committee on Thursday approved a resolution that could lead to an international treaty on small-arms control, a move hailed by gun-control advocates but opposed by the U.S. and gun-rights groups.

The measure would begin studies of a possible treaty, and must be approved by the General Assembly, which is likely to take it up next month. Human-rights campaigners said such a treaty would go a long way toward keeping small arms out of conflict zones.

Supporters of the U.N. action say such weapons can flow into conflict areas because of inconsistencies in current laws.

The resolution said the lack of international standards in the arms trade "is a contributory factor to conflict, displacement of people, crime and terrorism." It asked Secretary-General Kofi Annan to authorize the establishment of a group of experts to look into "establishing common international standards for the import, export and transfer of conventional arms."

The resolution was adopted by the General Assembly committee dealing with disarmament issues with 139 "yes" votes, 24 abstentions and one "no" vote, lodged by the U.S.

"The only way for a global arms trade treaty to work is to have every country agree on a standard," said Richard Grenell, spokesman for the U.S. Mission to the United Nations. "For us, that standard would be so far below what we are already required to do under U.S. law that we had to vote against it in order to maintain our higher standards."

The National Rifle Association in the past has strongly opposed U.N. efforts at crafting a treaty to curb private ownership of small arms. The group has said such a treaty might embolden regimes that violate human rights to disarm their citizens and make popular uprisings against oppression impossible.

But human-rights campaigners supporting the drive to regulate the arms trade welcomed the resolution's approval, though they said much work is left to be done before the final passage of any comprehensive compact.

"Today, the world's governments have voted to end the scandal of the unregulated arms trade," said Jeremy Hobbs, director of Oxfam International. "Since the Control Arms campaign began three years ago, an estimated 1 million people have been killed by conventional weapons."

The resolution asks Annan to seek the views of member states on a legally binding treaty and to establish a group of governmental experts from around the world starting in 2008 to examine the feasibility of a treaty.

Campaigners behind the resolution said they hope any final treaty would compel countries to officially authorize all weapons transfers, stiffen compliance with previous treaties related to conventional weapons while prohibiting weapons transfers with countries likely to use the arms to violate their citizens' rights.

Licence applicants may be required to provide a good reason, justifying why they need to possess a firearm. Legislation may prescribe the circumstances under which possession of a firearm may be justified.

If ‘personal protection’ is permitted as a good reason, applicants should prove to the police that they are in genuine danger that could be avoided by being armed.