oralloy wrote:dlowan wrote:In fact, America's homicide rate - and gun homicide rate, is hugely above similar western english speaking democracies (and western democracies generally - but I wished to make the fairest comparison). Most especially, I understand, that Canada has a reelatively high gun ownership, but a much lower homicide and gun homicide rate???
My understanding is that Canada, New Zealand and Switzerland all have relatively high gun ownership rates, without the high homicide rate.
dlowan wrote:What you therefore seem to believe is that weapons do not, in general (since all such countries have lots of bats and knives and fire-irons and such) in such countries kill people - but that AMERICANS kill people
I never thought of it that way, but yes.
dlowan wrote:evidence, I would have thought, in all rationality, to forbid all weapons to such a bloodthirsty nation?
Hmmm - I am minded of another A2ker, on another thread, speaking of America shepherding Iraq towards democracy - it makes me wonder, reading this thread, if the rest of the western world, ought, in similar vein, be invading you in an attempt to shepherd your country towards less blood-thirstiness?
I've no objection to being shepherded to less bloodthirstiness, but am willing to go to war to keep the guns themselves.
Well, I cannot comprehend your love of your guns, and I am mystified by your definition of freedom - but I respect your understanding of, and admission to, the logic of your position.
Frankly, I have not seen another such fervent gun adherent who would have acknowledged this.
