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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
giujohn
 
  -3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 02:37 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

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Oh let's be honest here Bag, he has no premise

I have a yoOOOoge premise.


Yeah...right...but she could be heard yelling,"Is it in yet Ollie"?
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giujohn
 
  -3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 02:39 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

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...where was all the righteous indignation and concern for national security when Hillary was exposing special access programs and hundreds of other highly classified files to at least 5 bad actor nations??

I don't recall her being president.


Yeah just Sec. of State...you really want to make that distinction? That's cray-cray boy.
layman
 
  -3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 03:33 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Even Trump tweeted that he revealed sensitive info to the Russians.....so, is his staff lying or did Trump lie to his staff?

You're wrong, and absent minded. McMaster stated firmly last night that such a conversation NEVER took place and claimed he was a witness. Today, he had to change the story.


Yeah, right, eh? He flatly stated that he completely stood by his prior statements on the topic, and that everything Trump said was "wholly appropriate."



Nice try, cheese-eater.
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layman
 
  -2  
Tue 16 May, 2017 04:00 pm
Quote:
Race to Prevent Airline Terror Turns to Laptops, Thin Bombs

The never-ending race to stay ahead of the terrorists and their obsession with aviation has turned to laptops and other electronic devices.

First it was shoes, after a failed attempt to blow up a jetliner in 2001 with explosives-laden black hightops. Then liquids were banned in 2006 following the discovery of a U.K.-based plot. The nearly successful detonation of a bomb hidden in a passenger’s underwear in 2009 prompted body scanners and aggressive patdowns.

“There’s been, for about four years now, an articulated threat that people will try to smuggle bombs in laptops,” he said.

Also driving the U.S. Department of Homeland Security are two successful bombings of aircraft in the past two years linked to smuggled explosives: a Russian charter plane in Egypt in 2015 that killed all 224 people aboard and a Somali airliner in 2016 that was able to land with a gaping hole in its side from a device hidden in a laptop.

“They’ve been building very thin explosives,” Halinski said. “They are so thin the X-ray machines can’t see them.”

While the actual intelligence hasn’t been publicly released, officials say it has convinced them they have to act.


https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-16/race-to-prevent-airline-terror-turns-to-laptops-thin-bombs

TOP SECRET!!! These are things NO ONE should ever know, if they're russian, eh? Like they didn't already know.
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hightor
 
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Tue 16 May, 2017 04:03 pm
@giujohn,
Well yes, I do want to make that distinction because I believe it helps to answer the question posed by you. I think USAmericans have always considered the presidency a much more important office, symbolically and politically, than the Secretary of State. If any of the "classified" files supposedly exposed by Clinton's private e-mail server were top secret and risked the country's security I doubt Comey would have let her off with a warning. She may have been careless but at least she didn't blurt out information as part of a boast. And again, she wasn't the president.

By the way, I am neither righteously indignant nor concerned about national security. I just think the guy is a loose cannon.
layman
 
  -4  
Tue 16 May, 2017 04:26 pm
Now and then you run into a Democrat who has at least a modicum of common sense, eh?

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Congressional Dems making early calls for Trump's impeachment

But one former Democratic lawmaker told Fox News that even suggesting impeachment is "dangerous" for the American people.

Dennis Kucinich, former Ohio congressman and a Fox News contributor, told Fox News on Tuesday that there was a “danger in engaging in compulsive opposition.”

“It is destructive to America to proceed with an impeachment at this stage of the presidency,” Kucinich said. “This is not the first thing you reach for, because when the first big move a party makes is towards impeachment, it’s very difficult for the American people to conclude that it is anything but a partisan issue.”

Kucinich told Fox News that while he is aware of the extreme opposition to President Trump’s policies, Democrats should focus on their ability to impact policy, which could be “attractive” to Americans in 2018.

“It’s far better to offer alternatives to the policies of this president," Kucinich said. "Otherwise, this is a grim partisan effort which inevitably will go nowhere."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/congressional-dems-making-early-calls-for-trumps-impeachment.html

Unfortunately, the democrats don't seem to have any "alternative policies." Like Hillary Clinton, they think the primary reason they will get votes is because, like "everyone else," they HATE Trump.

They think it makes them looks extremely wise if they no nothing other than attempt to demonize Trump 24/7.
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izzythepush
 
  5  
Tue 16 May, 2017 04:41 pm
Quote:
President Donald Trump asked FBI chief James Comey to end an inquiry into links between his ex-national security adviser and Russia, US media report.
"I hope you can let this go," Mr Trump reportedly told Mr Comey after a White House meeting in February, according to a memo written by the ex-FBI director.
The memo was written immediately after the meeting, a day after Michael Flynn resigned, according to US media.
The White House has denied the report in a statement.
"While the president has repeatedly expressed his view that General Flynn is a decent man who served and protected our country, the president has never asked Mr Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn," the statement read.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39944520
giujohn
 
  -3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 04:48 pm
@hightor,
She exposed SAP material, some of the highest classified and sensitive **** there is, to bad actor nations not just some coded TS/SCI stuff. Comey wouldn't even begin to know what damage she caused or will cause in future. He let her off cause he thought she would be his boss in November...a nice position for him to be in...kinda like Hoover was with some presidents huh?
izzythepush
 
  4  
Tue 16 May, 2017 04:52 pm
Quote:
The relationship between this White House and the intelligence agencies hasn't been great. President Donald Trump's recent disclosures have made things worse.

National Security Adviser HR McMaster stood on a driveway outside the White House on Monday evening and tried to explain a delicate situation to journalists.

The Washington Post had reported that Trump revealed highly classified information to Russians during a meeting in the Oval Office.
Standing before reporters, Mr McMaster chose his words carefully.
His message was that the president had indeed revealed certain things - he'd spoken with the Russians about the fight against the Islamic State group, but that the president's revelations weren't as bad as you might think.

"The president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known," Mr McMaster said, trying to reassure the reporters and the American public that everything was fine.
Not long afterwards, reporters gathered in a hallway of the West Wing, hoping to find out more about what had happened.

While we were standing there, senior members of the White House staff walked quickly past us and filed into a meeting room.

One of my colleagues said he had seen Stephen Bannon, the president's senior adviser, and Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, walk into the room.
Behind closed doors, the officials started speaking in loud voices, and a moment later someone turned up the volume on a television, so that we couldn't hear what was going on inside the room.
The mood in the White House on Monday evening was tense, and things seemed slightly out of control, showing an administration that barely seemed able to manage the chaotic nature of their boss, the president.

He had - once again - talked about something he probably shouldn't have, and they were struggling to contain the fallout.
On Tuesday morning, Mr McMaster reappeared in the White House briefing room to drive home their message that Mr Trump's disclosure was "wholly appropriate".
Mr Trump's indiscretion has been particularly troubling for people who work at the CIA.
A spokesman for the CIA told me - unsurprisingly - that they had no comment about the reports.

Privately, though, many of them have been worried about President Trump.
On the day after the election, a former senior CIA official told me, the grounds of the CIA were spookily quiet.

Many of the men and women who worked at the agency were troubled by his presidency, and they wanted a chance to think things through.
The recent disclosures in the Washington Post were hardly reassuring.
The president's decision to speak so freely was "a display of recklessness", said Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists.

The conversation that the president had with the Russians - and the explosive article about their meeting - has been unsettling for those who are steeped in the world of intelligence analysis.
The incident, said Mr Aftergood, reflected "escalating tensions between the White House and the intelligence community".

The job of intelligence analysts is to provide the president with information and insight that he can use in order to keep the nation safe from attacks, and analysts will continue to focus on the task at hand - despite any tension in the relationship.

David Priess, author of The President's Book of Secrets, said he's lived through periods of turmoil between the White House and the intelligence agencies during the years that he spent as a CIA analyst and intelligence briefer.
Yet he and his colleagues had a near-universal response to the discord.
He said they "just put their heads down and do their work".
Still, people who are familiar with the White House and the intelligence agencies believe the incident won't cause permanent damage.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39940153
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layman
 
  -3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 04:58 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
"The president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known," Mr McMaster said, trying to reassure the reporters and the American public that everything was fine.


Notice how these rapid Trump haters AlWAYS excise half of that sentence by McMaster, and present it as "the full explanation" given. McMaster, like Tillerson, merely mentioned "military operations" in passing. These guys delete all the real substance of his report.

They have no shame or intellectual integrity whatsoever. Any means used to try to create a false narratives are great.
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giujohn
 
  -3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 04:59 pm
I think he would have pulled a Hoover on her and hang it over her head as job security.
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revelette1
 
  5  
Tue 16 May, 2017 06:03 pm
@izzythepush,
The NYT and the WP and VOX all have a piece about it. Apparently Comey kept memos of multiple meetings with the president. An FBI memos are important and are used in court.

You know, Lash might have predicted it pretty much right.
giujohn
 
  -1  
Tue 16 May, 2017 06:48 pm
If you think lash has it right step up to the plate and take the bet like she did.
Lash
 
  0  
Tue 16 May, 2017 06:52 pm
@giujohn,
I thumbed you up, silly. Lash is feeling confident. Smile
blatham
 
  2  
Tue 16 May, 2017 06:54 pm
Golly goodness. I see Trump screwed up real bad. What a shocker that is.

This presidency is not sustainable. GOP fears of 2018 will be cascading. Unfortunately for everyone, that seems to be the ONLY factor which intrudes upon their notions of "governing".
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Tue 16 May, 2017 06:57 pm
@blatham,
Bigly bad.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 16 May, 2017 07:29 pm
@blatham,
from the world of tweets

Quote:
House GOP Conference Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers said she wants the White House to explain what happened and Comey to testify ASAP


apparently the town halls are getting to her (among others)

David Frum may not have been right about town halls after all.
layman
 
  -1  
Tue 16 May, 2017 07:39 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Lash is feeling confident. Smile


You shouldn't. Impeachment is an extreme measure that can't just be based on never-ending speculation (and positive assertions from Maxine Waters and her ilk) without facts to support it. Not liking, or not agreeing with the policies of, a president is NOT grounds for impeachment.

That aside, you need to control the House, which the republicans currently hold by by a 238 to 193 margin. A majority is not enough. A 2/3 vote in the senate is required to convict. Only two presidents in U.S. history (Nixon was not one of them) have ever been impeached.

All this breathless impeachment talk is nothing more than a product of cheese-eater desires and fantasies.

Not to even mention that "impeachment" does not remove a president from office. Clinton was impeached, but he never left office for that reason.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 16 May, 2017 07:45 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
You know, Lash might have predicted it pretty much right.

You guys are WAY out of touch with reality. Not just "mildly" out of touch, but "the cult leaders are starting to pass out Kool Aid" out of touch.

You guys don't even have a case that Trump did anything wrong.

And even if there had been a case that he committed impeachable offenses, you guys don't have a plausible reason why anyone should care after the way the Democrats always place themselves above the law.
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