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oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 16 May, 2017 12:28 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
the manifold error of their way
MontereyJack wrote:
the blinkered, philistine pig ignorant deniers who infest this site

What about you when you start spouting "single payer" nonsense?


MontereyJack wrote:
when I could have ben binge watching "farscape" instead.

Outstanding show. If you're watching it, make sure you're watching the Blu-Rays (or a high definition download if you're streaming it from someone like Netflix or Hulu). The show is great in high definition.

I presume you know that there is a mini-series at the end? The regular shows ended with a highly irritating cliff hanger that is only resolved by the mini-series.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Tue 16 May, 2017 12:30 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Unless we somehow gain intelligence that a nuclear strike by NK is imminent, I don't see the US hitting them first and so everyone is sitting around with their fingers crossed that Kim is not insane enough to put his own fat ass, not to mention his whole nation, in mortal danger by doing something everyone believes is insane. If Seoul, Tokyo or Juno are reduced to lakes of molten slag it will be small consolation that Kim, his flunkies and millions of his oppressed subjects are wiped of the face of the earth. Despite what some folks here would like to see happen, all we can do is hope and pray that the situation and a few major cities don't blow up.

Strike Juno and insert Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle.

North Korea is not going to start the war until they have demonstrated an ability to nuke Los Angeles.

Hope for peace is folly. The war is coming.

It won't be as simple as receiving intelligence that a nuclear strike is imminent. North Korea will launch a large invasion of South Korea, and will tell the world that if anybody acts to stop them, they will launch their nukes at the US.

At that point we'll have to choose between:

a) doing nothing and letting them conquer South Korea,

b) opposing them conventionally and only launching our nukes after they launch theirs, or

c) launching a massive nuclear first strike to try to minimize their ability to harm us.


Finn dAbuzz wrote:
In the meantime, every thuggish strongman in the world is even more convinced that it is essential for him to develop or obtain at least two nukes. One to use in a test to prove he has them and the other to enable God knows what acts of aggression. The West couldn't even hold strong and derail Iran's efforts. A great many people in this country and throughout Europe actually believe the absurd notion that Obama's deal with the mullahs is going to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear power and threat.

It hasn't failed yet.

Iran entered into the deal because the entire world used sanctions to force them to do so. They surely realize that, if they end up pursuing nuclear weapons, they will end up with the same level of sanctions that North Korea currently enjoys.

There is a fair chance that they will decide that they prefer not to endure that.
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giujohn
 
  -3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 01:31 am
@MontereyJack,
What's bullshit is your blatant lie. And the Bag's but-in talking about something off subject desperately trying to prove me wrong. But you see, I'm just reporting what us common knowledge.



The Weather Channel


Hurricane Central

10 Years Later, Wilma Still the Last Hurricane to Hit Florida
By Quincy Vagell
Oct 24 2015 12:00 AM EDT
weather.com


10 Years Since Last Hurricane Made Landfall in Florida

Meteorologist Ari Sarsalari remembers Hurricane Wilma that made landfall in Florida on October 24 in 2005.
While there has been record tropical cyclone activity in the Northern Hemisphere this year, Florida continues to experience a record-long hurricane drought that reached 10 years on Saturday.

In 2015 Erika quickly fizzled to the south of the Sunshine State, and powerful Hurricane Joaquin stayed several hundred miles to the east as it meandered over the Bahamas.

If the drought continues through the end of 2015,(it did) it will mark 10 full hurricane seasons without a hurricane in Florida – doubling the previous record of five seasons from 1980 through 1984.

According to the Hurricane Research Division (HRD) of NOAA, Florida had 114 direct hurricane landfalls between 1851 and 2014. That is an average of seven hurricanes every 10 years. However, the past 10 years have featured zero Florida hurricanes.


A look at the last 64 hurricanes across the North Atlantic, ranging from late Oct. 2005, to late Oct. 2015. Florida has escaped a hurricane strike over this time.
After back-to-back very active hurricane seasons in 2004 to 2005, including seven landfalling hurricanes and three landfalling tropical storms, tropical cyclone activity suddenly became much quieter over Florida. The last hurricane to make landfall in Florida was Wilma on Oct. 24, 2005.

It is not just Florida that is in a hurricane drought. The U.S. in general has escaped quite a number of major hurricanes – 27 in a row have formed and either missed the U.S. entirely or made landfall below major-hurricane strength. Wilma was also the last major hurricane to strike the U

No Major Hurricane Landfall in the U.S. Since 2005

El Niño Enhances Hurricane Drought?


In typical El Nino seasons, increased upper level winds tend to cause increased shear across parts of the Atlantic, ultimately mitigating tropical development.
The frequency of hurricanes near the U.S. mainland has been unusually low in recent years. The lack of hurricanes in 2015 was further driven by an El Niño pattern, which is expected to persist for a while.



Once again the Bag must feel REAL STUPID about now...(this is too easy)
giujohn
 
  -4  
Tue 16 May, 2017 01:36 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

giujohn wrote:
How about Hillary Huma and Tony (among others) violating title 18?

I'm not familiar with this. Is it something to do with the emails?


Absolutely. You remember...when Comey told us for 13 minutes​ how Hillary was guilty but then said she wouldnt be prosecuted

And how Huma sent classified email to Tony's laptop with his porn.
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izzythepush
 
  5  
Tue 16 May, 2017 02:44 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

So Trump has the legal authority to disclose the information.


Legally is not the same as morally, and flies in the face of established protocol.

Quote:
The information, related to the use of laptops on aircraft, came from a partner of the US which had not given permission for it to be shared with Russia, says the Washington Post.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39931012

Basically it was not his intelligence to divulge. This puts intelligence sharing by friendly powers at risk. If I was the intelligence officer whose sources were compromised by Agent Orange I would be very reluctant to share anything with my American counterparts.

Agent Orange is all about short term gains, he seems incapable of seeing either the big picture or the long game.
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hightor
 
  5  
Tue 16 May, 2017 02:55 am
@giujohn,
Quote:
The U.S. in general has escaped quite a number of major hurricanes – 27 in a row have formed and either missed the U.S. entirely or made landfall below major-hurricane strength.

Just because major storms have missed Florida doesn't prove that predictions of increasingly powerful hurricanes is necessarily false. You've picked one limited geographical location to base your claim on. As you can see from the story, 27 major hurricanes have formed. The fact that they've weakened by the time they hit Florida really doesn't prove anything. Your concept of what constitutes a major hurricane (one that hits Florida) is as parochial as your concept of global temperature (how hot it gets in your own backyard).
hightor
 
  5  
Tue 16 May, 2017 03:03 am
Warning: may risk offending supporters of Trump

Quote:
When the World is Led By a Child

At certain times Donald Trump has seemed like a budding authoritarian, a corrupt Nixon, a rabble-rousing populist or a big business corporatist.

But as Trump has settled into his White House role, he has given a series of long interviews, and when you study the transcripts it becomes clear that fundamentally he is none of these things.

At base, Trump is an infantalist. There are three tasks that most mature adults have sort of figured out by the time they hit 25. Trump has mastered none of them. Immaturity is becoming the dominant note of his presidency, lack of self-control his leitmotif.

First, most adults have learned to sit still. But mentally, Trump is still a 7-year-old boy who is bouncing around the classroom. Trump’s answers in these interviews are not very long — 200 words at the high end — but he will typically flit through four or five topics before ending up with how unfair the press is to him.

His inability to focus his attention makes it hard for him to learn and master facts. He is ill informed about his own policies and tramples his own talking points. It makes it hard to control his mouth. On an impulse, he will promise a tax reform when his staff has done little of the actual work.

Second, most people of drinking age have achieved some accurate sense of themselves, some internal criteria to measure their own merits and demerits. But Trump seems to need perpetual outside approval to stabilize his sense of self, so he is perpetually desperate for approval, telling heroic fabulist tales about himself.

“In a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about health care,” he told Time. “A lot of the people have said that, some people said it was the single best speech ever made in that chamber,” he told The Associated Press, referring to his joint session speech.

By Trump’s own account, he knows more about aircraft carrier technology than the Navy. According to his interview with The Economist, he invented the phrase “priming the pump” (even though it was famous by 1933). Trump is not only trying to deceive others. His falsehoods are attempts to build a world in which he can feel good for an instant and comfortably deceive himself.

He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence. Trump thought he’d be celebrated for firing James Comey. He thought his press coverage would grow wildly positive once he won the nomination. He is perpetually surprised because reality does not comport with his fantasies.

Third, by adulthood most people can perceive how others are thinking. For example, they learn subtle arts such as false modesty so they won’t be perceived as obnoxious.

But Trump seems to have not yet developed a theory of mind. Other people are black boxes that supply either affirmation or disapproval. As a result, he is weirdly transparent. He wants people to love him, so he is constantly telling interviewers that he is widely loved. In Trump’s telling, every meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes but his guests stayed two hours because they liked him so much.

Which brings us to the reports that Trump betrayed an intelligence source and leaked secrets to his Russian visitors. From all we know so far, Trump didn’t do it because he is a Russian agent, or for any malevolent intent. He did it because he is sloppy, because he lacks all impulse control, and above all because he is a 7-year-old boy desperate for the approval of those he admires.

The Russian leak story reveals one other thing, the dangerousness of a hollow man.

Our institutions depend on people who have enough engraved character traits to fulfill their assigned duties. But there is perpetually less to Trump than it appears. When we analyze a president’s utterances we tend to assume that there is some substantive process behind the words, that it’s part of some strategic intent.

But Trump’s statements don’t necessarily come from anywhere, lead anywhere or have a permanent reality beyond his wish to be liked at any given instant.

We’ve got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.

“We badly want to understand Trump, to grasp him,” David Roberts writes in Vox. “It might give us some sense of control, or at least an ability to predict what he will do next. But what if there’s nothing to understand? What if there is no there there?”

And out of that void comes a carelessness that quite possibly betrayed an intelligence source, and endangered a country.


David Baker
Builder
 
  0  
Tue 16 May, 2017 03:10 am
@hightor,
So, what kind of person backs Trump's candidacy, even votes for him, knowing what everyone knew about him, before the election, hightor?
layman
 
  -3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 03:17 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

So, what kind of person backs Trump's candidacy, even votes for him, knowing what everyone knew about him, before the election, hightor?


Irredeemable deplorables, that's who.

Kinda strange that, for all their self-proclaimed tolerance, love of diversity, and love for the fellow man, these cheese-eaters don't do anything but spew hate 24/7 for anyone who doesn't subscribe to their lame dogma, eh?
hightor
 
  6  
Tue 16 May, 2017 03:25 am
@Builder,
In the last election, people who really didn't like Hillary Clinton. Didn't you pick up on that? It was in all the papers.
layman
 
  -2  
Tue 16 May, 2017 03:32 am
I guess people get especially resentful and hateful when their extreme over-confidence in their own wisdom gets pissed on.




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layman
 
  -3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 03:42 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

In the last election, people who really didn't like Hillary Clinton. Didn't you pick up on that? It was in all the papers.


I'm not sure that "didn't really like" quite captures the prevailing sentiment.

Every normal American (cheese-eaters excepted) despised the filthy skank.
hightor
 
  4  
Tue 16 May, 2017 03:42 am
@layman,
Quote:
Kinda strange that, for all their self-proclaimed tolerance, love of diversity, and love for the fellow man, these cheese-eaters don't do anything but spew hate 24/7 for anyone who doesn't subscribe to their lame dogma, eh?

No, it's not strange at all. They see Trump as promoting religious discrimination, opposed to basic rights, a tool of the evangelicals, a danger militarily, and an enemy of the environment. I don't know why you characterize run-of-the-mill political criticism with 24/7 hate-spewing but I can tell from your tone that you are obviously upset. I'm sorry that these sorts of comments hurt your feelings, layman. (In my defense, I did issue a warning.) In the future I shall try to be as kind and gentle to you as you and your right wing brethren on this forum have been to those who have a different political perspective.

You guys are the best:
McG wrote:
Can't wait to hear the tapes of that so we all know they aren't really cheap shot dickheads preaching to their sycophantic choir of adoring fans who wait with baited breath and tongues out like pilgrims waiting for their daily splooge of truth to reach their tongues.


layman
 
  -4  
Tue 16 May, 2017 03:48 am
@hightor,
Quote:

No, it's not strange at all. They see Trump as promoting religious discrimination, opposed to basic rights, a tool of the evangelicals...


So you hate anyone who doesn't toe the the commie atheist line, that what it boils down to?

Quote:
... run-of-the-mill political criticism...


Hahahahahaha.

Great joke.
hightor
 
  5  
Tue 16 May, 2017 04:27 am
@layman,
Quote:
So you hate anyone who doesn't toe the the commie atheist line, that what it boils down to?

Hardly. To tell you the truth, if I had to count the number of my friends who reject belief in a supreme being and advocate that the working class should control the means of production the number would be...zero. You're an amazing guy — for someone so obsessed with perceived "hate" your posts are so lovingly composed and so full of empathy. You always treat those who disagree with you with so much respect — hell, thanks for even take the time to respond.

You guys are the best:
giujohn wrote:
Yeah...and stop with the childish personal attacks...I know it's difficult for cheese heads.
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 05:00 am
@layman,
Quote:
you hate anyone who doesn't toe the the commie atheist line

I am sure that you, Layboy, pray to Jesus Christ every single night, asking him for world peace and stuff...
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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Tue 16 May, 2017 05:34 am
@layman,
Which is why she got almost three million more votes than Trump did, right?
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blatham
 
  3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 05:49 am
Is there some rational reason you guys have in mind which suggests that arguing with trolls produces benefits for anyone?
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Tue 16 May, 2017 05:52 am
While it still isn't clear wheather Trump outed Israel or Jordan with his Russian intel leak, Israel is now a bit happier that it seems to have been Jordan.

But, according to Israeli media, all this is intel leak is the last thing Netanyahu needs.
According to the same Israeli sources,U.S. intel 'warned Israelis' against sharing this info with Trump admin in January already. (See continuous coverage at e.g. Haaretz, JP, Israel Army Radio)
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 16 May, 2017 06:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
According to the same Israeli sources,U.S. intel 'warned Israelis' against sharing this info with Trump admin in January already.
And rather obviously, it will not be just the Israelis who have been advised that the Trump WH cannot be trusted to operate competently in this regard. And Israel certainly will not be the only intel-sharing partner which, even if they have not been advised as the Israelis were, haven't themselves already figured this out.
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