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@oralloy,

I like the old one, but I like the new KJV better because it makes more sense to me. Sometimes those antique words are hard to figure out, at least for me.

In any case, I thought it appropriate to the point. Or I could have said on the Trump tax plan, "been there and done that and don't want to do it again."

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@Blickers,

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You guys cheer for the coverup of Trump's Russian connections, and you accuse someone else of being Commie?

What coverup? Last I checked the Russians were no longer Communists, Reagan broke their back in the 80's.

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And Trump is on record as saying that NATO, (the most important and successful Communism-containing force in history), is obsolete.

Didn't Obama deny Russia was a threat to us during the 2012 election? In fact he laughed at Romney when Romney said Russia was a threat to us. Fast forward 4 years and now you guys can't get Russia out of your mouths.

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And that the US will change its policy from viewing Russia-still totalitarian in the Communist mode-as an opponent to a foreign policy with Russia "based on mutual interest".

You will have a hard time with pressing anyone on "based on mutual interest" when it comes to who is and isn't our allies. Obama bent over backwards to deal with Iran after they spent the last 10 years helping terrorists in Iraq kill Iraqi civilians and US members. What "mutual interests" did we have in Iran?

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Prior to that, the US policy toward Russia was based on containing Communism, and it did.

Prior to Trump this was a concern? I'll say it again, Obama told Romney that Russia wasn't a concern during the 2012 elections. Did you side with Obama or Romney during that portion of the debate? I'm going to guess you backed Obama and thought Romney was an idiot for being concerned with Russia.
Communist Russia hasn't been a concern since the late 80's, talk about wanting a foreign policy back... You are a certain kind of special aren't you?

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Trump wants to scrap that and replace it with a policy of "mutual interest".

It seems you people on the left weren't concerned a few years ago. How did Obama's and Clinton's "Russian Reset" work out? Your faux concern now is evident, it looks like Clinton has more ties to Russia than Trump ever did.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

I like the old one, but I like the new KJV better because it makes more sense to me. Sometimes those antique words are hard to figure out, at least for me.

A proper translation should really have NO antique words. No archaic language is used in the original languages that they are translated from.

One possible exception might be the use of "thee" or "thou" as a pronoun when that pronoun refers directly to God, to avoid confusion that might be caused by use of normal pronouns to refer to God (since a normal pronoun might also refer to an ordinary human). But otherwise, the addition of archaic words makes a translation less accurate.

revelette1 wrote:

In any case, I thought it appropriate to the point.

It probably was. I'm bored with politics at the moment, so am not really addressing political issues much. I'm glad the thread has slowed way down.

And in fact I think I'm going to go play some World of Warcraft.

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@Olivier5,

Well if you don't want to believe people in the know who you might expect to insist none are paid, so be it. You're pretty naive for a sophisticated European.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

I didn't offer an opinion because I really don't understand trade agreements. I only know, no one has seen it last I heard so I am not sure how you know it is bad to start with. (that info may have been updated)

Most of the leftist who disagree with the trade agreement do so because they feel it takes away jobs here at home, not anything to with taking advantage of Mexico.

I just remember him saying he was going to tear it up or something like that, didn't hear nothing about any renegotiation with his campaign promises. Not sure that would have appealed to those who liked Trump based on this single issue more than most others.

Well, I'm not sure exactly what he specifically promised about NAFTA, but I think it was pretty well implied that if he had an opportunity to renegotiate NAFTA or any other deals it would be a good thing.

If the deal is renegotiated, how his supporters react will depend on the end result. While I'm sure that there are those who consider anything less than a complete withdrawal from the deal to be a breaking of a campaign promise, I suspect that if he is able to renegotiate and then make a credible case for how the new deal is much better than the old one, he won't have a problem with the vast majority of supporters.

Of course he's capable of leaving the deal essentially intact and then spout a lot of BS about how he got a much better deal, but the fact that he (intentionally or otherwise) got Canada and Mexico to come back to the table is a positive.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

On my side of the border, I'm continuing to contact my representatives and telling them that I'm part of the group that wants Canada out of NAFTA. We didn't support it at its onset and want out now even more. I'd rather see us (Canada) more attached to the TPP and to push the trade agreements with Europe even further.

Why?

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Hospital operating room. The mood is tense, focused. Attending nurses in immaculate white gowns which reveal only their beautiful eyes and long legs and swelling bosoms bend in towards the patient prone on the operating table or to the various machines monitoring whether the patient will have any tomorrow. There's a figure in the center of all this, also in immaculate white, but male, portly, and with wisps of orange-blonde hair falling out from the head cover. We see that the patient's cranium has been opened and a portion of his brain is exposed.
"Scalpel"
The scalpel is placed into the portly man's open hand. The scalpel descends into the patient's brain. Immediately, the patient's right arm jerks wildly all about, knocking over the tray of instruments while at the same time his left leg kicks ramrod straight, sending the IV stand crashing against a wall.
Acting chief surgeon, Donald Trump, confesses, "I thought it would be easier than this. Nobody knew brain surgery would be so complicated."

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@blatham,

I could eat some camembert heese about now. I need some triscuits (Olive oil and rosemary)

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@farmerman,

Excellent teeths hewage. Set to it.

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@farmerman,

sounds good.. I haven't bought store crackers in years, but remember liking Triscuits, back before they would have had olive oil and rosemary.

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I'm a nationalist and a globalist. I'm both.
Also, I'm a lion-maned balding porcine-contoured pussy magnet.

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@ossobucotemp,

Please pass me a Saltine.

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@hightor,

that works too. Im just a triskit guy. I figger that all you cheeseaters have some "selected cheese n cracker pairing" that your snowflake fingers love to fondle.

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@farmerman,

You know, I was never really big into the cheese thing...until I became active on this forum. Now I just can't get enough of the stuff!

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@farmerman,

I finally looked up the meme about snowflakes, on google. Er, not what I'd guessed at all; some goofiness about the ashes from the killing of holocaust victims. Criminy..

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North Korea has test-fired another ballistic missile, South Korean and US military officials say.

The missile exploded shortly after take-off, they said - the second failed launch in the past fortnight.

US President Donald Trump accused North Korea of showing "disrespect" towards China and its president.

The missile was fired from a site in South Pyeongan province, north of Pyongyang, in the early hours of Saturday local time, South Korea said.

Mr Trump tweeted: "North Korea disrespected the wishes of China & its highly respected President when it launched, though unsuccessfully, a missile today. Bad!"

Mr Trump recently hosted Chinese President Xi Jinping and praised his Chinese counterpart for "trying very hard" on North Korea.

The failed launch came just hours after the United Nations Security Council discussed North Korea's missile programme.

Mr Trump's Secretary of State Rex Tillerson called for a tougher international approach to the isolated communist state - but also signalled that the US might be prepared to negotiate with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-39750240

When did Trump get so touchy about disrespecting China?

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Have you guys been lying to us about the joys of socialized healthcare??

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/27/doctor-nhs-vote-labour-austerity-conservatives?CMP=fb_gu

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@Lash,

Any health system is only as good as the money put into it. The Tories never put enough in, the NHS always does far better under a Labour government. Overall though UHC is more efficient. America pays more per capita in subsidised healthcare than Britain yet still does not have UHC. That's the real scandal.

It's UHC, only fascists call it "socialised medicine."

None of this is relevant to the thread. Instead of following me around trying to score points because I keep making you look very foolish try to stick to the topic, the alternative is looking even more foolish.

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@blatham,

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I'm a lion-maned balding porcine-contoured pussy magnet.

Confidence and sophistication. Is that what it takes to succeed these days?

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@Lash,

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Have you guys been lying to us about the joys of socialized healthcare??

I've never understood the term "socialized healthcare".
And I'm even more confused that obviously any health care program which isn't in the US is called so. (The NHS-system differs quite a lot from e.g. 130-years old system we've got here.)

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