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A well-known fact.

I don't usually subscribe to conspiracy theories but I think there are several at work with climate change:

The simplest is that there is a lot of money to be made here. Government funded reasearch is employing a lot of "scientists." There are probably a whole lot more working on CC than looking for a cure for cancer.

Most of them are true believers to one extent or another, but they're not above fudging data to keep the gravy train running and they likely justify it with the notion that mankind needs to wean itself from fossil fuels regardless. Throw in the fact that they are regarded as heroes by a lot of people and there is an incentive to play fast and loose with facts. (This doesn't even consider the whores like Al Gore who have gotten filthy rich on propagandizing the issue)

Democrats (and particularly Obama) latched onto this as a way to wrest a huge economic engine away from the Republicans who have long had close ties with the oil and gas industry. Unfathomable amounts of money in energy production and supply and if Dems can pave the way for alternative energy billionaires, they will lock in a huge funding source. When some conservative alternative energy magnates show up I may have to give this a second thought.

Leftists are all about wealth redistribution and CC provides a means to accomplish it on a global scale. They don't think the West deserves its wealth and irrespective of where they live, they would love to see the "colonial powers" give back a lot of what they "stole" from their colonial victims. Every global proposal to combat CC involves 1st World (aka the West) taking it in the shorts so that the 3rd World nations can continue to spew CO2 into the atmosphere. The problem here is that nations like India and Brazil need to curb their emissions if any of these grand plans are going to work. The solution is for the West to pay them to help save the world.

Think about that. CC devotees believe the WOGs need to be paid to save the world. If it really is as dire as they say it is does it make any sense for any nation to insist on being paid to do their share? If it is so dire these nations are going to suffer more than the West so it's a bit like putting a gun to their own heads and making a demand or they will shoot.

If there is something to CC, and I think there is, small island nations are in deep shite. No amount of money from the West will restore their nations.

The truly noxious aspect of CC is how it has become something like a fundamentalist religion, and so we have Bill Nye the Fascist Guy calling for the imprisonment of "deniers" He's hardly alone.

It's a sad state of affairs because for most of my life I thought mankind could count on scientists to tell us the truth. I was a fool.

Close enough for me

I know. You have illustrated your deep propensity to evil a number of times.

I greatly admires pacifists who are prepared to die for their principles. I doubt I would be so committed

Unfortunately there aren't many of them.

So people who decry violence and bombs and such, if you can imagine a scenario where you would accept violence and killing then you are a hypocrite, and for you it's all about politics.

Forgive the rest of the world if we don't want to accept you as the global arbiter of when someone should be killed.

Do you want examples, Finn?

Your first sentence is too disjointed to comment upon.

Your second illustrates your easy propensity to evil. Because you know that the tens of millions the US has slaughtered never had to die. And you avidly support, have always supported, tell of your undying future support for this US carnage.

Impressive grasp of post World War 2 US/Russian history. Super geniuses are like that. Very little escapes their penetrating intellects.

"Disjointed?" LOL Sounds like the same teacher Donald Trump had.

And he could so easily have passed legislation that would have decreased the number of guns in America had he only asked Republicans to assist in the endeavor.

That's for public consumption to the end of either party's political goals. We have absolutely no idea what actually were the subjects and tone of that conversation.

Just wait until you fully come to realize that the entire US narrative you have been saddled with, from its beginnings to today, and then tomorrow, then ..., is much much more the huge lie.

I'll send you a bunch of tin foil hats, Finn.

That's perhaps the stupidest idea kicking around on the right. Because it is utterly self-defeating.

The premise is - if there is money involved, then those who receive that money can not be counted on to be unbiased nor honest. They are compromised by the money.

Now, just total up the amount of dollars going to scientists working in all the related scientific investigations related to climate and biological systems (understanding that if they weren't working in present areas, most would be doing valuable work in some other aspect of science).

Then compare those dollars to what the petrochemical industries, the richest in the history of humankind, have been pulling in for a century and continue to pull in today. The difference is something like a grain of sand compared to a whole ******* beach.

As I said, one of the stupidest ideas kicking about in a universe of stupid ideas.

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There must be some kind of mistake here - that couldn't have been a (R) governor.

Ugh, I hate when I agree with Bernie. Large corporations may see dollar signs and try to take advantage of a thing like climate change, but I don't think scientists do.

See, here's the thing though. Yeah, the climate is changing. But the climate is always and has always been changing. That's why you can't get an accurate weather forecast that's accurate beyond 24 hours. I do believe that man has sped up how the climate has changed because , duh. Man. Man burns **** and cooks **** and produces **** and manufactures **** and buries **** and digs up **** and basically does a lot of **** with ****. Without man that **** wouldn't be happening. So, of course man has and is and will be effecting the climate.

However, the amount of change and the actual effects of that change is in dispute. It's exaggerated on both ends.

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He's already a good distance down that path.