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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 09:26 am
@blatham,
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(I was such an arrogant jerk in my early twenties)


...nah, too easy.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 09:42 am
@blatham,
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Because the party has become over the last few decades a conglomerate of selfish, deceitful, personally ambitious con men who do not give a rat's ass about the well-being of their constituents.


This might actually be the case. I don't think so, but I've very little faith in politicians. However, if is the case, it's certainly the same with Democrat politicians. The notion that one side is filled with evil men and women, while the other is ripe with heroes, is truly childish or delusional.

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They can die for want of affordable medical care, that's just fine. They can be shot by police, and their children can be murdered in school by insane people with automatic weapons, that's all the rough evidence of liberty.


The same things were happening during the eight years of the Obama Administration. Obamacare didn't save millions of sick impoverished souls, and gun violence stats are high in places with the strictest gun regulations. Is this why the nation turned to a Republican candidate?

The cliched argument will, of course, be "The GOP stopped Obama from doing anything meaningful!" but that ignores the fact that he got Obamacare through and that regardless of what the GOP does with it now, it was destined to crash and burn (In part so that it could be replaced with a single payer system under Clinton). If a president has to control all branches of the government to get "meaningful" things through, he's not much of a leader.

Police shootings and even brutality can decide local elections, they will not decide a national one. Ditto gun violence.

We'll have to see where healthcare costs take us, but neither party seems to have any idea on how to get them under control and affordable for enough Americans that an election can be decided on the issue.


Baldimo
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 10:02 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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We probably shouldn't have hamstrung their military the way we did. They weren't about to go all Tojo anytime soon (or late) after their crushing defeat and they could have been there with the UK in helping us around the world.

I would guess this had a lot to do with how Germany was able to get around their restrictions post WWI and they didn't want a repeat with Japan.
Baldimo
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 10:04 am
@camlok,
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Helping you rape and pillage, not a chance. Yankeeland is much too greedy to share.

You were perfectly ok with the ways of Russia post WWII, and they killed 20 million of their own people. Do you hate the US because they kept the USSR and Communism in check?
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 10:04 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
How can you blame Obama for gun killings? Gun killings have been on-going since the 19th century in this country.
Olivier5
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 10:09 am
@georgeob1,
Hi George. Did you find the resolve to honestly address global warming yet?
georgeob1
 
  -1  
Thu 13 Apr, 2017 10:31 am
@Olivier5,
I have honestly and accurately addressed this slowly developing issue. You merely failed to respond to the specific estimate I provided of the problem; the inadequacy and ineffectiveness of the very costly currently prescribed solutions to it; and the contradictions evident in the prescriptions of the AGW zealots, who oddly oppose far more economically efficient and proven more effective means to deal with it. You have seized on details in recently modified ICC estimates to evade these fundamental issues, and have never addressed the fundamental issues that were the subject of our discussion.

Apparently you think that is courage. It is not that, and it does not indicate interest in scientific understanding either.
Olivier5
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 10:39 am
http://www.courrierinternational.com/sites/ci_master/files/styles/image_original_765/public/assets/images/p_14_-_tom.jpg
(by Tom, for Dutch magazine Trauw)
Olivier5
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 10:47 am
@georgeob1,
Your data is fake and you have no source.

Your obsession with vague and yet unnamed "GW zealots" is absurd. Why do you care for these mysterious folks so much? You need to address the science of GW, not the spin of it.

As for the solution to the problem, we shouldn't discuss it before we agree on what exactly the problem is. Only if we agree on the problem and its magnitude, can we usefuly discuss the needed technologies and policies to address it.
revelette1
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 10:56 am
I guess Trump got the message from Tillerson after he talked with Putin. On Wednesday Trump said US/Russia relationship at an all time low, today he tweeted Russia and the US are fine. Whiplash.

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President Trump on Thursday sought to turn down the temperature on the fierce dispute between the U.S. and Russia over Syria's chemical weapons attack.

"Things will work out fine between the U.S.A. and Russia. At the right time everyone will come to their senses & there will be lasting peace!" the president tweeted.
- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 13, 2017

Trump's tweet comes after he signaled a more aggressive approach toward Moscow, Syrian leader Bashar Assad's main ally, after the chemical attack - backing away from his campaign promise to forge better ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

During a press conference Wednesday, Trump refrained from criticizing Putin directly but declared that the U.S.-Russia relationship "may be at an all-time low" after the U.S. air strikes on a Syrian airfield where the gas attack is believed to have originated.

Trump also lauded China from abstaining from a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning what the U.S. and its allies said was Assad's decision to use chemical weapons on his own citizens.

The comments came on the same day the president reversed his position on Chinese currency manipulation.

But on Thursday, Trump sought to put on a tough face toward Beijing on the issue of North Korea's nuclear program.

"I have great confidence that China will properly deal with North Korea. If they are unable to do so, the U.S., with its allies, will! U.S.A." he tweeted.
- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 13, 2017

Trump told the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday he offered China better trade terms if they would confront Pyongyang over his nuclear ambitions.
But he also said he came away from his meeting last week with Chinese President Xi Jinping with a different view of how much influence he has over his neighbors, especially after Xi explained the history of their two countries.

"After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it's not so easy," Trump said "I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power over North Korea. ... But it's not what you would think."


The Hill
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 11:14 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
I would guess this had a lot to do with how Germany was able to get around their restrictions post WWI and they didn't want a repeat with Japan.
You mean electing Hitler in 1933?
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edgarblythe
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 11:23 am
@Olivier5,
https://scontent.fhou1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17903953_1319489014797973_589627814207615576_n.jpg?oh=7ae404a18fadb46acf4d4c1a72990ef8&oe=598A9A58
Baldimo
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 11:32 am
@Olivier5,
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America has this addiction to cowardice.

Only in your mind. If only you talked so tough about the stuff that really matters, like terrorist attacks in the EU.

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GW deniers for instance are scared little cowards, afraid of the truth, and no country has more of them than the US...

So it's back to Global Warming? See you guys can't even keep your own propaganda straight, how is the rest of the world suppose to buy into the scam if you keep changing the theories? First it was Global Cooling that sent you fools into a panic and when it turned out to be a bunch of whoey the argument was benched and came back later as the opposite, Global Warming. When it started to look like GW was hooey as well, they had to switch it up again and changed the name to Climate Change. The only reason they did this was to make sure they would be right no matter what the data said.

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And all the cyber spying

It is indeed BS to spy on your own people, but spying on those outside the US is just fine. After all, do you really think France doesn't spy on the US or the other EU countries?

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and all this Muslim banning

Banning 7 countries out of 50 is not a Muslim ban. Banning countries who have no clear govt in control is perfectly acceptable. Stop letting your emotions get in the way of facts.

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that's born out of visceral, primal fear of the "other".

We are the most diverse country in the world, WTF are you talking about.

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Even Trump's election is a symptom of fear: the fear of falling backward, of not being "great" (aka white) anymore. You guys have become a permanently scared nation.

Booh!

You are a fool if you think his election was about race and making America "White again". After 8 years of Obama and the lefts consistent race baiting, I'm not surprised you think this way. We were closer as a mixed nation prior to Obama winning office then we were after 8 years of his reign. It all started with the left and their "If you didn't vote for Obama, then you are a racist!" crap.
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Olivier5
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 11:34 am
@edgarblythe,
http://www.courrierinternational.com/sites/ci_master/files/styles/image_original_765/public/assets/images/dubus_coree.png?itok=6YE60x7q
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 11:55 am
@cicerone imposter,
You missed my point.

I don't blame Obama for gun violence.

blatham is blaming Republicans for it's continued existence. I merely pointed out that it existed, with virtually no change for the better, under Obama.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 11:58 am
@Baldimo,
I suspect it also had something to do with fear of the fanatic Yellow Peril.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 12:07 pm
@revelette1,
I get the sense that you are gleeful about the state of relations between the US and Russia, which would be odd considering that after the word was that Russia cost HRC the election, you and so many other liberals wanted to lather on the sanctions.

Trump is right. This is nothing to worry about.

Did anyone expect Putin's Russia to embrace Tillerson after the Syrian strike? Of course they are going to talk tough. If they were going to act tough they would have done so very shortly after the strike.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 12:26 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
K.
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revelette1
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 12:50 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
True, the NRA has a hold on enough democrats in southern states to keep sensible gun regulations from passing congress. I can't even talk, my husband has quite a few despite how I feel about it. Just got to live with it. It is not as though I disapprove of all guns, it just seems some folks are gun crazy with wanting more and more with more capabilities which would be fine if there was a way to keep them from people who wake up one day and decide to kill forty or so children in a school. At least if a gun didn't have the ability to shoot so many bullets a minute, perhaps the school and mall/bar...shootings wouldn't be so tragic. It is like gun nuts are so afraid of people taking their freedom and guns away they don't want to be sensible and try and come up with solutions instead of just roadblocks to a safer public.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 13 Apr, 2017 01:06 pm
@revelette1,
It seems most have lost their common sense on gun control. The government isn't working to take guns away from everybody. That's protected under the Constitution. However, background checks and those with mental deficiencies and criminal records should not own guns.
 

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