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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 11:51 am
@blatham,
"Human caused climate change" is the latest attempt by the global govt movement to grasp control of the world. I don't care if you see this as a "nationalist" stance or not, the only way the climate groups can effect their change is through a global movement of socialism, and climate change is just the new boogie man in their bag of tricks. Look at who the major backer is of the climate groups? After all if you can convince the world that humans are at fault for the change of the climate, then you can can introduce all sorts of laws and regulations to restrict development to those types of technology you favor. The oil industry is the prime target and it has nothing to do with the climate, it has everything to do with destroying those who stand in the way of their utopian way of life. You guys claim to be the smartest of the bunch, but you can't even admit that more than cars utilize oil, our current world wouldn't exist without oil and it's byproducts.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414359/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 11:53 am
@camlok,
Quote:
That he does, george, but you, of all people, should not be pointing fingers in this regard. Your posts are mostly pompous, overblown pandering to a narrow minded, conservative, rah rah America viewpoint.

Is there anything more narrow minded than that?

The guy who directs every discussion towards "America is evil" wants to talk about narrow minds?
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Yes, I'm a cheese eater. So what? You use the term as if there's something negative about it.
CLUE: You're the negative on a2k. I mean that in the nicest way.


First of all, you asked who the cheese-eaters are. If you knew you are one, why ask the question?

Secondly, I don't use the term in any way. It's all Layman's.

Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Why does Trump want a sacrificial lamb?
camlok
 
  0  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:04 pm
@Baldimo,
If you possessed the honesty to look at it, and the cojones to say stop it, there would be relative peace in the world.

You folks are like Germans heiling Hitler. But yours is much more pernicious, much more insidious, much more deeply evil.
blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:05 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Why does Trump want a sacrificial lamb?
For the steaks, obviously.
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camlok
 
  0  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:07 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Secondly, I don't use the term in any way. It's all Layman's.


You, being your typically disingenuous self, Finn. And also not surprising, with your usual boldness.
blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:09 pm
Quote:
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More Americans than ever view the news through red-colored glasses. In 2013, when Barack Obama was president, a Washington Post-ABC News poll found that only 22 percent of Republicans supported the U.S. launching missile strikes against Syria in response to Bashar al-Assad using chemical weapons against civilians.

A new Post-ABC poll finds that 86 percent of Republicans support Donald Trump's decision to launch strikes on Syria for the same reason. Only 11 percent are opposed.

That’s an astounding shift in attitudes, and partisan instincts almost certainly explain the rapid change. Republican voters opposed Obama, so they had no use for his plan to attack the Assad regime, and Republican voters generally back Trump, so they support last week’s strikes.

But look a little closer at the details, and the asymmetry between the parties becomes more obvious: four years ago, 38% of Democratic voters backed Obama’s proposed strikes in Syria, and now, 37% of Democratic voters support Trump doing the same thing. In other words, there’s been effectively no change.

This isn’t limited to rank-and-file voters; the dynamic affects elected officials, too. Republican leaders on Capitol Hill have been brazenly inconsistent on the issue, opposing Obama’s approach because it was Obama’s approach, and supporting Trump’s offensive because it’s Trump’s offensive.
More here from Steve Benen
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:10 pm
I know the left-wingers here will see the facts as they prefer, but since the Syrian strike we've seen:

Putin change his mind about meeting with Tillerson.

China giving North Korea a very stern warning to knock it off.

Coincidence, or evidence of the Trump Administration's ineptitude?
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:10 pm
@camlok,
Knock it off, please. I haven't put you on ignore but I will if you continue this.
camlok
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:18 pm
@blatham,
Stop being a such a bloody hypocrite, Bernie. When you feel it is warranted you are right in there dishing out insults. At other times you have your nose right up george's butt.
blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:20 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
If you'd have walked into my booth at the Canton Market, I could have sold you anything.
camlok
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:21 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Putin has always shown an openness to engage with the US despite its evil doings. If you folks had anything but your usual propaganda mill you would know this.

For pete's sakes, just think, who constantly controls the narrative you folks hear? That has been the same since you and all your grandfathers etc were young 'uns.
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blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:21 pm
@camlok,
Fine.
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Baldimo
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:23 pm
@camlok,
Quote:
If you possessed the honesty to look at it, and the cojones to say stop it, there would be relative peace in the world.

Who are you kidding, relative peace in the world? You really are some kind of special aren't you.

Quote:
You folks are like Germans heiling Hitler. But yours is much more pernicious, much more insidious, much more deeply evil.

Using such comparisons shows you don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about and further weakens any argument you think you have, but I'm sure you really feel that way, but it couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm still wondering where you live. Come on JTT be honest with me, where do you live? Why are you so afraid to give even the smallest amount of info, are you afraid it would blow what little street cred you have?
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blatham
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:28 pm
Post-truth or post-brain, hard to tell.
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In August, Donald Trump reflected a bit on foreign policy and declared with great confidence, "[Vladimir Putin is] not going into Ukraine, okay, just so you understand. He's not gonna go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want."

It was, at the time, a bizarre thing to say, because Putin's forces were already in Ukraine. It raised concerns about Trump's ignorance and ability to keep up with current events.

But in hindsight, perhaps the trouble was with Trump's confusion about the word "into." Take the president's latest rhetoric about U.S. policy towards Syria, for example.
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President Donald Trump said in an interview to air Wednesday that "we're not going into Syria" after the United States launched a cruise missile strike against a government airbase in that nation over a chemical attack in the country's six-year civil war.

Putting aside the fact that Trump just ignored his own rule about discussing his future security plans, his declaration that "we're not going into Syria" is problematic because we're already in Syria.

Not only have U.S. forces launched military offenses against the Assad regime and ISIS targets -- putting the United States in the position of attacking more than one side of Syria's civil war simultaneously -- but as Rachel noted on the show last night, hundreds of American troops are currently serving in Syria, the country the president says we're not going into.
Benen
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:34 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

If you'd have walked into my booth at the Canton Market, I could have sold you anything.


Why would I ever want to buy photos or figurines of you or copies of your autobiography "You Must Read Me!"
camlok
 
  0  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:35 pm
@Baldimo,
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Look at who the major backer is of the climate groups?


This is highly illustrative of the wacky, delusion bubble that you and yours travel in, Baldimo.

[bold is mine]

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Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:51 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
... the only way the climate groups can effect their change is through a global movement of socialism, and climate change is just the new boogie man in their bag of tricks. Look at who the major backer is of the climate groups? ...
The Catholic Church, the Evangelical Church in Germany, the Anglican Church, ...
camlok
 
  0  
Wed 12 Apr, 2017 12:52 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The Catholic Church, the Evangelical Church in Germany, the Anglican Church, ... the devil, ...
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