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President Trump's former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, discussed removing from the US a Muslim cleric wanted by Turkey, according to ex-CIA director James Woolsey.

Turkey accuses the cleric, Fethullah Gulen, of orchestrating last July's failed coup.

In a video interview, Mr Woolsey told the Wall Street Journal he was present at a discussion about removal methods beyond the legal extradition process.

Mr Flynn disputes Mr Woolsey's account.

The meeting took place last September at a New York Hotel.

Those present included Mr Flynn, then an adviser on national security to the Trump election campaign, the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, according to the WSJ (paywall).
Mr Woolsey, then also advising the Trump campaign, admitted he might not have heard "some kind of caveat" because he arrived late for the meeting.

But he told the WSJ: "There was serious discussion of finding some way to move Mr Gulen out of the US to Turkey.

"You might call it brainstorming. But it was brainstorming about a very serious matter that would pretty clearly be a violation of law."

He went on: "It was a serious and troubling discussion but it did not, repeat not, in my portion of being in the room, rise to a level of being a specific plan to undertake a felonious act."

In a later interview with CNN, Mr Woolsey called the meeting "suspicious" and "concerning", saying: "I felt I needed to say something to somebody, but was it a clear plot that they were going to seize him? No."

A spokesman for Mr Flynn, whose consulting company Flynn Intel Group carried out work for the Turkish government, disputed Mr Woolsey's version of events.

"At no time did Gen Flynn discuss any illegal actions, non-judicial physical removal or any other such activities," he said.

The EPA was compromised already, and so was HRC.

Can't really call it democracy...

Nancy Chase, who held a sign reading “Grandmothers for Trump,” told an SFGATE reporter that she was there to show support for the president “in a positive way.”

“I’m not looking for violence,” she said. “These people just want to fight. They are anarchists in black, and it’s not what we are about. I just want to stand up for liberty.”

David Tomes, another pro-Trump marcher, told the Bay Area newspaper, said “this is the most immature and disgusting display of human interaction."

Berkeley Police Officer Byron White said 10 arrests were made: one for resisting arrest, four for assault with a deadly weapon, including a dagger, and five for battery. About seven medical evaluations were made on the scene. None of the injured wanted to be taken to the hospital.

Chakko said among the other items police confiscated at the rally were metal pipes, bats and two-by-fours.

“A group of people carrying bricks were detained and the bricks were confiscated,” he said

Berkeley Police Officer Byron White said 10 arrests were made: one for resisting arrest, four for assault with a deadly weapon, including a dagger, and five for battery. About seven medical evaluations were made on the scene. None of the injured wanted to be taken to the hospital.

Chakko said among the other items police confiscated at the rally were metal pipes, bats and two-by-fours.

“A group of people carrying bricks were detained and the bricks were confiscated,” he said.

Berkeley was not the only city that reported clashes between demonstrators.

Six people protesting a Trump rally in St. Paul, Minn., were arrested on felony riot charges after they lit fireworks inside the Minnesota State Capitol and fled, police told the Associated Press. About 400 people attended the St. Paul event, and about 50 showed up to protest it. Some other minor scuffles between the dueling demonstrators were quickly defused.

It wasn't racist at all. It was a joke, and it was funny. There is no need for thinking people to themselves succumb to the nonsensical group think paradigms of contemporary progressives. That stuff is for folks like Blatham (at least when it suits him to make a point in his propaganda). Happily he does have a sense of humor and summons sufficient hypocrisy to occasionally let humor and common sense to trump this nonsense.

And if I had posted that where she said, "I once slept with a black guy", the liberals here would have been on me like stink on a monkey.

So is this racist...Why do blacks hate taking aspirin? Because they don't like picking out the cotton.

Or is it funny?

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One of the things you guys keep doing is trying to change the subject and discuss something else instead of the topic that you don't have the right answer for. Comparing illegal immigration to other crimes is a red herring. Stop that.

I'm not sure how to address your objection. If I "change the subject" it may be to question the basis of your argument. In this case I was responding to:

McG wrote:

You'll turn your eyes away from rape and murder because then you'd see that your shitty liberal attitude is responsible for thousands upon thousands of deaths, rapes and other violent crimes every year.

See, I could accuse your side of the same thing with relation to gun violence and the way you guys will "turn you eyes away from gun violence and firearms accidents because then you'd see that your shitty conservative attitude is responsible for thousands upon thousands of deaths from shootings every year." But I wouldn't. Because "your attitude" is not responsible for gun violence. No more than liberals' attitudes are responsible for crimes committed by illegal immigrants. It's not the fact that someone broke the law to arrive here that causes him to commit a crime. I think immigration status should be treated as a "secondary offense", the way seat belt laws are sometimes applied.

You are willing to overlook it and that is the shitty attitude I am talking about.

I just hope that no one here has a family member that gets violated by an illegal.

According to Gallup, Trump's approval rating sits at 41%.