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farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 08:40 pm
@layman,
Quote:
156 IQ for Trump
And I understand that Frederick Douglas was the proctor for the tests
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 08:42 pm
@RABEL222,
I don't worry about my IQ. I've been retired since 1998, and most of my interest is my family, friends and world travel.
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 08:44 pm
@giujohn,
Quote:
How ******* racist is this post?


Better question: How racist are the democrat pedo/pervo/pizza gangs to want to snatch 20 black girls in Washington DC in a space of two weeks to sacrafice to pagan idols in sadistic rituals??

Why is it I have to read about this **** in Russian media because our media is still playing goalie for demmunists??

https://www.verydicey.com/news/2017/3/24/the-first-media-to-report-on-missing-dc-girls-russia-today
layman
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 08:46 pm
@edgarblythe,
To quote what Christopher Hitchens, the admittedly brilliant hard-core commie, said about Michael Moore...

Quote:
I never quite know whether Moore is as ignorant as he looks, or even if that would be humanly possible.


And that was the nice part of what he said, eh?
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farmerman
 
  5  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 08:47 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
Director Michael Moore on Friday warned Democrats that while the decision to pull the Republican ObamaCare repeal bill was worth celebrating, it wasn't time "to gloat" but the opportunity "for the resistance to step forward."


They were talking about that on a Sirius CBC talk line. The mod was saying that, based on expiences hes seen in Canada, these things like "Obama care is going to sink fast" can become self fulfilling if the fight isnt maintained at a high level.

The first thing Id say is that
"Wait a minute Mr President, you are willing to let fellow citizens just come to the ends of their financial ropes if they cant meet some catastrophic health care bill"?? All that just to stick it to his enemies???
Seems to take cynicism to tropospheric heights
layman
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 08:50 pm
@farmerman,
Obamacare isn't "free health care." It's insurance you have to PAY for, like it or not. Outrageous premiums for the privilege of getting $20,000 annual deductibles. Unless an until you've paid all your premiums, AND an additional $20,000 out of pocket, you don't get **** from Obamacare.

And Moore wants to say Trump lied about his health plan? How about Obama?
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 08:55 pm
@layman,
Have you ever purchased auto insurance? There are different levels of benefits available for which there are different levels of premium. That's how insurance is supposed to work.

Fortunately for retired folks on Senior Advantage, the premium is taken out from our social security benefit, and the coverage is excellent. We pay $30 for doctor's visit, and the cost of lab, prescription drugs, and hospital stays are within the budget of most middle class families.
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layman
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 09:05 pm
Just for alla yawl's information, I aint stupid neither. At school, I raised my hand for every question.

I remember the time Miss Johnson said: "Layboy, that answer isn't even wrong."

I wasn't wrong!!
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 10:45 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
I never thiught Id see this but a "single payer" system is probably the only one that'll work.

Do you understand what single payer is? (I always hear people on the Left refer to systems as single payer when they are anything but.)

There are other systems that work. The best systems actually utilize a healthcare marketplace.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 10:47 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
A vote on US President Donald Trump's healthcare bill has been withdrawn at the last minute after it failed to gain enough support to pass in Congress.

Mr Trump told House Speaker Paul Ryan to pull the bill after it became apparent it would not get the minimum of 215 Republican votes needed.

I feel bad for the poor. They'll have to keep getting crappy care from Medicaid, and will keep having their children deprived of their inheritance after they die.

I wonder if we're going to end up with a Logan's Run sort of situation, where poor people start killing themselves by age 55 to make room for the young.


Quote:
The withdrawal is seen as a huge blow to Mr Trump.

I don't perceive it as such. Depends on one's conception of huge I guess. A setback, sure. But hardly massive devastation.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 10:48 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Not really surprised - the president's blaming...the Democrats!

That is reasonable. The Democrats certainly opposed the bill.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 10:52 pm
@oralloy,
The GOP opposed the bill.
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ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Fri 24 Mar, 2017 11:51 pm
@RABEL222,
I'm the one who left what turned out to be iq tests early to go get ice cream, or was it a soda - I still came out uppy, but not a genius. So it goes.
Blickers
 
  4  
Sat 25 Mar, 2017 12:21 am
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
I feel bad for the poor. They'll have to keep getting crappy care from Medicaid, and will keep having their children deprived of their inheritance after they die.

Medicare is good, comprehensive care which includes not only GPs caring for your but a wide variety of specialists and even teaching hospitals if necessary.

Quote oralloy:
Quote:
I wonder if we're going to end up with a Logan's Run sort of situation, where poor people start killing themselves by age 55 to make room for the young.

On the contrary, the withdrawn Republican bill was Logan's Run invitation if ever there was one. 5 Million of the working poor-those making between $10K and $18K yearly-were going to be cut off from Medicaid by 2018. Completely cut off from access to modern medical care, and these are people who are currently working trying to make ends meet. Shameful.
gungasnake
 
  -4  
Sat 25 Mar, 2017 02:07 am
@gungasnake,

Quote:
Quote:
How ******* racist is this post?


Better question: How racist are the democrat pedo/pervo/pizza gangs to want to snatch 20 black girls in Washington DC in a space of two weeks to sacrafice to pagan idols in sadistic rituals??

Why is it I have to read about this **** in Russian media because our media is still playing goalie for demmunists??

https://www.verydicey.com/news/2017/3/24/the-first-media-to-report-on-missing-dc-girls-russia-today


Zero US MSM coverage, only RT covering this item...

Anybody wanting to keep up with the news in the near future should start studying Russian now...
Builder
 
  -2  
Sat 25 Mar, 2017 02:09 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
Better question: How racist are the democrat pedo/pervo/pizza gangs to want to snatch 20 black girls in Washington DC in a space of two weeks to sacrafice to pagan idols in sadistic rituals??

Why is it I have to read about this **** in Russian media because our media is still playing goalie for demmunists??


https://www.verydicey.com/news/2017/3/24/the-first-media-to-report on-missing-dc-girls-russia-today

Thanks for the link. The corporate media does indeed appear to be complicit.


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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sat 25 Mar, 2017 02:15 am
https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17426078_1291342960901282_4750069551160664609_n.jpg?oh=b637e20e27bf666cc6943c4fb72dc6c3&oe=595943FC
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Sat 25 Mar, 2017 02:18 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Medicare is good, comprehensive care which includes not only GPs caring for your but a wide variety of specialists and even teaching hospitals if necessary.

HMOs will not allow repeated referrals if you have a difficult condition and need a second or third opinion. And then there is the inferior cosmetics and unnecessary side effects.


Blickers wrote:
On the contrary, the withdrawn Republican bill was Logan's Run invitation if ever there was one.

Wait until the working poor realize that with Medicaid the only way that they can pass an inheritance on to their children is to die by age 55.


Blickers wrote:
5 Million of the working poor-those making between $10K and $18K yearly-were going to be cut off from Medicaid by 2018. Completely cut off from access to modern medical care, and these are people who are currently working trying to make ends meet. Shameful.

The bill was far from ideal. But it pushed the poor away from Medicaid and towards the exchanges.

Most of the successful health systems around the world use insurance exchanges much like Obamacare, with a few key differences: all the insurance is not-for-profit, the poor get adequate help buying insurance, and there is a much harsher penalty if you refuse to buy insurance for yourself.

Pushing the poor to the exchanges could have been the first step in fixing the system.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 25 Mar, 2017 03:17 am
Ouch. Here are the main headlines at NYT this morning.
Quote:
Facing a Mutiny, G.O.P. Pulls Health Bill
Major Setback for Trump in First Big Legislative Clash

EDITORIAL
The TrumpRyanCare Debacle

Trump and Ryan Lose Big

Trump’s Triumph of Incompetence

Trump Fumes, but Averts a Showdown

Republicans Land a Punch to Their Own Party’s Face
hightor
 
  2  
Sat 25 Mar, 2017 03:20 am
@blatham,
He'll turn it into a "victory" no doubt.
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