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Remember when Republicans argued so passionately that Obamacare was a non-valid program on the basis that American citizens did not approve of it? We'll just set aside here the many, many months of rightwing attacks (mostly false, ie death panels) that accompanied the WH inititative.

So, recalling that history, how are things now with Trumpcare, a bill revealed only weeks ago?

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A majority of voters disapprove of GOP efforts to replace the 2010 health care law on the eve of an uncertain House vote set for Thursday, according to a new poll.

The Quinnipiac University poll, released Thursday afternoon, shows fewer than one-in-five voters, 17 percent, approve of the Republican plan to replace Obamacare. The majority, 56 percent, disapprove, with slightly more than a quarter, 26 percent, undecided on the proposal.

Politico
Well golly goodness, as Gorsuch might have put it.

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@ossobucotemp,

I've not read that book, osso. Actually, I've read far too little on Mexico and I've yet to go there. I was talking over the last weekend with a friend here who has traveled extensively aand bsolutely loves the place and the people. She says one has to be prudent, but given that, things are delightful. She's been many times, on her own or with others.

When I was doing my teaching practicum in Vancouver, the teacher I was working with warned me about touching students. This was a behavior that I really had to curtail because the Mennonite family culture I'd grown up in was very loving towards children and touch was completely natural. To refrain was unnatural and cold. This teacher returned from a brief holiday to Mexico where he'd never been before and he said to me, "Watching the Mexicans interact with their children gave me an understanding of how you are with children."

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@blatham,

Me too, many times, like your friend. Haven't been there for a while now, and forget whatever spanish I tried madly to learn, but usually people are helpful if you even try, with your small beginning spanish book at hand.

Just saw your add on re children, and yes to that. Italians have some of that too.

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Steve Benen addresses the polling on Trumpcare I noted up above. I'll just quote a small bit. But go read this. It's important.

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The same poll found 43% of respondents "strongly" oppose the Republican plan. How many "strongly" support it? A whopping 6%. That's not a typo.

A forgiving observer may look for ways to excuse results like these. One might note, for example, that the Affordable Care Act has long been controversial, too. Perhaps one might also argue that Americans would have more favorable impressions of the GOP plan if they had more time to familiarize themselves with the details.

But the excuses don't work in this case. The Republican legislation is far less popular than the ACA was -- and also less popular than the Clinton plan from the 1990s.

Benen

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@ossobucotemp,

Re Italians...

In one of Woody Allen's plays, two male characters are up on stage and (I'm bastardizing but this is close) Character A insists that he's attractive but never gets laid. Character B says, "Of course you don't get laid. You're in a play. You're a fictional character. Nobody has sex with a fictional character. Here, let me prove it to you". At which point he moves to the front of the stage and addresses the audience. "Has anyone here ever had sex with a fictional character?" At which point one female in the audience raises her hand and stands. "I once slept with an Italian".

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I expect many of you are wondering what the hell is going on re the Trumpcare bill and House vote, scheduled for today. For good reason you and everyone else is wondering because it is all a ******* dog's breakfast. But I doubt I could point you to a better analysis of everything that is now up in the air than Steve Benen's take. So if you want to get up to speed, this is where to go

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@ossobucotemp,

Things over here have changed a lot over the last few years. Your are not supposed to touch young people or children any more. It could be that you are
a phedophile. Kindergartens used to scream for male pedagogues. Now the male padagogues are not allowed to be alone changing diapers - in case .....
It is so sad,

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This just in:

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House Republican leaders postponed a planned vote Thursday in the full House on legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act as President Trump and his allies struggled to round up votes amid a tide of defections from the proposed replacement.

NYT

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@hightor,

Let's see how many has ethics over party politics. Those voting know that 24 million will lose health insurance under Trumpcare.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?tid=a_inl-amp

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@hightor,

I knew they would postpone before allowing it voted down.

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@saab,

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Things over here have changed a lot over the last few years. Your are not supposed to touch young people or children any more. It could be that you are a phedophile. Kindergartens used to scream for male pedagogues. Now the male padagogues are not allowed to be alone changing diapers - in case .....
It is so sad,

Yes, that's broadly true now in the west. It is bloody sad. Aside from the obvious need to protect children, part of the concern in Canada (moreso in the US) is the legal and monetary risk schools and school districts face.

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@hightor,

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House Republican leaders postponed a planned vote Thursday in the full House on legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act as President Trump and his allies struggled to round up votes amid a tide of defections from the proposed replacement.

No surprise there. The least surprising aspect is that "the world's greatest negotiator" ain't.

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@blatham,

That must have been before the Dixiecrats went Repug.

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@hightor,

It's been fascinating watching the to-ing and fro-ing of this on twitter.

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@hightor,

It is a nice fillip that today is the 7th anniversary of ...

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/03/22/joe-biden-returns-washington-calls-gop-obamcare-repeal-tax-bill/21905640/

Obamacare

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and because I miss Mr. Biden

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Biden went on to comment on the state of the Republican party, saying:

There's nothing that has fundamentally changed in the Republican party in the last 12-15 years, except now they've got a president whose a little more colorful."

Someone near him responded, saying, "Well that's a polite word."

In true Biden form, the former vice president responded, noting, "That is a polite word, but it's about time we're polite."

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@ehBeth,

The scams of the GOP goes unabated that lacks any semblance of honesty or humanity. How do they live with their family and friends?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/trumpcare-the-culmination-of-all-the-gops-health-care-lies.html

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@ehBeth,

re anniversary of obamacare... yup which is why they wanted to do it today, of course.

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@blatham,

Trumpcare hurts the poor and planned parenthood, and helps the wealthy.
No surprise there.

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Hours ago, but this is still true

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Michael Tomasky‏ @mtomasky 18h18 hours ago
Just so we're clear here, the people who screamed that Obamacare was done in secret are rewriting their health care bill IN ONE NIGHT.

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@blatham,

I think it almost funny if it werent so cynically tragic, the "Ryancare" package allows one to secure insurance despite any pre-existing conditions, BUT, it removed the coverage for specific items of care, including prescription meds. There are several others, so that even though one can get insurance, the policy provides basically NOTHING.

1984 is 33 years late when it arrived on Jan 20 2017

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