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blatham
 
  4  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:26 pm
@McGentrix,
Fair enough. But my hands are bigger than Trump's.
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:28 pm
@blatham,
Most people's are if you study the media.
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maporsche
 
  4  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:30 pm
@McGentrix,
Oh that's funny.

What's the Latin for "acting like a girl"?
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:33 pm
@maporsche,
Dunno, what?
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georgeob1
 
  -1  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:35 pm
@blatham,
I'm glad to hear you enjoy it. Machiavelli wrote in the late 15th & early 16th centuries, at the dawn of the Modern era, and (except for China) before the rise of the nation states that make up the modern world. I suspect his fascination with the perfection of Rome (or at least its utility as a model for the study of republics) reflected that moment and place in history. As an Italian, or more properly as Tuscan, he lived in a place that owing, in part, to its advanced (compared to the rest of Europe) development, regional factionalism, and local political competition with the Roman Church, was itself unable to come up with any stable political entities beyond local principalities, and I believe that too contributed to his fascination with Rome. He was also reputed to have no knowledge of Greek. which may have added to it all.

At his time and place Catholicism was considered to be the culmination of Greek and Roman civilization, though its inability to hold empire together may also have fascinated him.

I believe Machiavelli's great achievement is on the dynamic nature of human political affairs. We are all far too accustomed in our era to dealing with static models of liberal capitalism, Socialism, Social Democracies, Totalitarian States, Democracies, forgetting, as we usually do, that they come in various shades and combinations, and that none of them have yet shown an ability to last unchanged for very long. Instead he foucuses on the dynamic "tumult" in the human affiairs of republics and the characteristics needed for endurance over time. He focuses on the swings and excesses between the enduring but competing groups making up any republic, and the features that enable this "tumult" to be resolved without collapsing the whole. It's a markedly different point of view compared to the rather linear comparisons of the static models of democracies, authoritarian or totalitarian states with capitalist or socialist economies to which we are all far too accustomed. Indeed it is a very refreshing examination of the underlying complexity of real life in which (as modern mathematics has revealed) the future states of non linear dynamic systems are largely, not just unknown, but unknowable ... and, as we know,anything involving humans is highly non-linear.
blatham
 
  3  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:38 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Instead he foucuses on the dynamic "tumult" in the human affiairs of republics and the characteristics needed for endurance over time.

Agreed. It's always lovely to bump into a great mind. I thank you for insisting.
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blatham
 
  4  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:41 pm
We knew this guy was going to be bad, but this bad?
Quote:
Sessions considers special counsel, but not for Trump
By Steve Benen 03/09/17 12:55PM
One of the oddities of 2017 is how much time Republicans have spent looking backwards. Donald Trump, for example, has invested an enormous amount of energy focusing on his predecessor, the 2016 election, and voter fraud that exists only in the president's mind. House Oversight Committee Chairman (R-Utah), meanwhile, remains focused on Hillary Clinton's email server from eight years ago.

And at the Justice Department, as Politico reports, Attorney General Jeff Sessions is apparently amenable to the idea of appointing a special counsel, not to investigate Trump's scandals, but to look over the work done by Sessions' predecessors.
Quote:
Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Thursday that he would be open to bringing in an outside counselor to investigate the practices of his Department of Justice predecessors under former President Barack Obama.

Sessions was asked about such an arrangement during an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, who suggested that Sessions might ask outside counsel to look into the department under Attorneys General Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch.
Benen
I'm not sure if I've mentioned how much I despise these people but if not, I really do.
layman
 
  -2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:48 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Probably because we don't fit your "pussy liberal" description. (How the hell did you come up with that term? It's awful. "Fussy liberals" would be better.)


Seems to fit, don't it?

Maybe you would prefer pantywaist liberals, eh?

Or candy-ass liberals.

Or light in the loafers liberals.

Or fruity liberals.

Or Lucy liberals.

Or limp-wristed liberals.

Or lisping liberals.

Take your pick, eh?

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edgarblythe
 
  2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:50 pm
@blatham,
Stoking up the hatred of liberals and Democrats for the base.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:51 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
Am I a Nazi?


You just hobnob with them.
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layman
 
  -3  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:51 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Call it "blackmail" if you want but not censorship.


I'll call it chickenshit intolerance, how's that?
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georgeob1
 
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Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:54 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
georgeob1 wrote:

Indeed you appear to be unable to come up with any metaphors to support your propaganda beyond these very shopworn Nazi images.

Among the very first victims of the Nazi program were "sexual deviants" or "undesirables".


Not true. Actually they started with their left wing Communist opponents in Germany, and then went on to the insane and severely retarded, "life unworthy of Life" was their term for them in a large public indoctrination program that masked a then quiet program of extermination. In fact there was a very large homosexual element among the early Brown Shirts of the Nazi Party, though Hitler exterminated them too after grasping power and finding them both a potential rival and offensive to the political establishment he (Hitler) then needed to pacify. Religious opponents (both Lutheran and Catholic) came later, and then the Jews, Gypsys, and finally Slavic untermensch
layman
 
  -2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 03:57 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

While reading, do you also wear a black turtleneck sweater and a beret while sipping some exotic espresso in a tiny cup with your pinky out?


Great question, Gent!

Quote:
“The mere words “socialism” and “communism” draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice-drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex maniac, Quaker, 'Nature cure' quack, pacifist and feminist in England.” (George Orwell, 1937)[/quote
georgeob1
 
  -2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 04:03 pm
@layman,
The compulsion to conform, to be truly in fashion is the key distinguishing feature of such weak-minded people.

Human history confirms the sad fact that there are usually more of them than people who think for themselves.

I like the term "wuss" though there are, as you noted, many, many others.
layman
 
  -2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 04:09 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

The compulsion to conform, to be truly in fashion is the key distinguishing feature of such weak-minded people.

Human history confirms the sad fact that there are usually more of them than people who think for themselves.


Yeah, I'm so far removed from letting others think for me or seeking a sense of worth and identity from the opinions of others that I often forget how many people are governed by that.

I have to go back to the time when I was a kid to remember that kind of thing, and how immature it is.

Lincoln had the right idea:

Quote:
“I desire to so conduct the affairs of this administration that if at the end, when I come to lay down the reins of power, I have lost every other friend on earth, I shall at least have one friend left, and that friend shall be down inside of me.”

=======

“I do not listen to every criticism, let alone act on them. I have learned to do my best, and if the end result is good then I do not care for any criticism, but if the end result is not good, then even the praise of ten angels would not make the difference.”
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NSFW (view)
layman
 
  -1  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 04:30 pm
@layman,
Or maybe it's this:

Quote:
"The coverage they have on him, [the] sex actions ... that's absolutely true," Maxine Waters said, referring to the dossier's detailed description of claims Trump met with Russian prostitutes.

"If we do the investigation, then we will find the connections. And I do think that impeachment will be necessary," Waters said.


1. Yeah, right, like bangin some ho is an impeachable offense, eh, bitch?

2.All that information allegedly came from russian intelligence agents.. Suddenly the Democrats want to call upon them for assistance in achieving their hare-brained political schemes, eh? Go figure.

3. "Absolutely true," eh? I guess she was there, trying to piss on someone. How else would she know?
layman
 
  -2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 04:40 pm
Latest tweet from Trump:

"**** alla y'all haters. Y'all can kiss my lilly-white ass."
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 04:45 pm
@georgeob1,
PERSECUTION OF HOMOSEXUALS IN THE THIRD REICH

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A writer from Duesseldorf who was arrested for homosexuality. Duesseldorf, Germany, 1938.
— Nordrhein-Westfaelisches Hauptstaatsarchiv Duesseldorf
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While male homosexuality remained illegal in Weimar Germany under Paragraph 175 of the criminal code, German homosexual-rights activists became worldwide leaders in efforts to reform societal attitudes that condemned homosexuality. Many in Germany regarded the Weimar Republic's toleration of homosexuals as a sign of Germany's decadence. The Nazis posed as moral crusaders who wanted to stamp out the "vice" of homosexuality from Germany in order to help win the racial struggle. Once they took power in 1933, the Nazis intensified persecution of German male homosexuals. Persecution ranged from the dissolution of homosexual organizations to internment in concentration camps.
camlok
 
  2  
Thu 9 Mar, 2017 05:02 pm
@layman,
You mean,

Y'all can kiss my repulsive orangutan orange ass."
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