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As usual Trump is big on allegations, little on evidence.

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President Donald Trump has not spoken to the FBI about his claim that his predecessor wiretapped his phones.

Mr Trump on Saturday accused Barack Obama of ordering surveillance at Trump Tower in New York during the election, but has offered no evidence.

FBI Director James Comey has reportedly rejected the allegation - one report said he was "incredulous".

But White House spokesman Sean Spicer said on Tuesday the president has yet to speak to him about it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39200729

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@izzythepush,

Aha!

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@gungasnake,

If a caravan of cars drive slowly without passing it probably means there has been a warning about something ahead.
Swedes usually do not blow their horns except for warning and not for a show off.
That there was a policeman near by also could be a sign of there had been a warning.
In the 60ies there were very few policemen on the roads.
And the policeman was right - we do not speed in Sweden , but neither do you in USA
And there are no short ways out of Sweden to Germany.

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@saab,

If you don't speed in Sweden like we don't speed in the US, you better slow the heck down.

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@cicerone imposter,

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In Sweden, traditional national minorities such as the Saami, Roma and Jews have a long history of being excluded from the Swedish nation. Today especially Saami and Roma are still highly marginalised. But like elsewhere in Europe, it is especially people of colour (the “visible minorities”, including Roma) that are most evidently discriminated against in every major area of society such as the housing and job markets.

The article is not really true.
I do not think we can really talk about excluding Samii from the Swedish nation. They live up north in Lapland and have been supported to be able to live according to their traditions.
The Jews have been living in Sweden since 1500 and have had rights to have their congrecation since around 1770. They often liked to be amongst their own because of their traditions.
They have lately been very badly treated in Malmö - even forced to leave because of the circumstances.
It is not Swedes but another group of people.
Romas - yes - we have several thousands of Romas at the moment living in Sweden as beggers.
That Africans do not get jobs as easy as Swedes is not just a question of colour, but lack of knowledge of the Swedish language, and lower education than the Swedes.
Refer to Olof Palme 1965 is absurd - the world has changed since then.

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@roger,

Thanks, it's nice to discuss language differences with an American without it turning into who is right. What's right is where you are.

These are cookies over here, and all cookies look like this, they just vary in size.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Maryland_cookies.jpg

None of these would be classed as cookies.

http://www.confectionerynews.com/var/plain_site/storage/images/publications/food-beverage-nutrition/confectionerynews.com/manufacturers/yildiz-still-lacks-power-brands-after-united-biscuits-buy-analyst/9433179-1-eng-GB/Yildiz-still-lacks-power-brands-after-United-Biscuits-buy-Analyst_strict_xxl.jpg

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@saab,

Hatecrimes 2012 in Sweden
Antisemetic went up with 39% from 2008 - 2012 from 159 to 221. As there are 20.000 ( 7000 in a congregation) Jews in Sweden this means many experinced a hatecrime.
Islafobic hate crimes 306 in 2012. We do not know how many Muslim there are in Sweden. But around 600 000. So the hate crimes agains Muslims were less than against Jews
Hatecrimes against Christians 200. No comment

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@izzythepush,

It is interesting, and I think I've finally nailed the difference between chips and crisps.

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@roger,

Tortilla chips are still chips though, and McDonalds/Burger King/KFC calls them fries even though most customers ask for chips.

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@izzythepush,

I should have guessed.

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@saab,

saab wrote:

Romas - yes - we have several thousands of Romas at the moment living in Sweden as beggers.

The first record of Romani people coming to Sweden is from 1512, when Countess and Count Anthonius arrived with their accompanying entourage

The different Romani groups living in Sweden are five main groupings: Travelling Romani, Swedish Romani, Finnish Romani, Non-Nordic Romani and Recent Romani arrivals.
Romani chib is an officially recognised minority language in Sweden.
NB: not every Romanian is a Roma, but certainly many are the group of "Recent Romani arrivals".

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@Walter Hinteler,

You ae right, but I think we more or less now talk about the beggers (EU beggers)and not the others.
A Roma who lives in Sweden, work and speak Swedish would not be stamped as Roma in general.
This how I think the people I know and I think.
You more or less have to step over EUbeggers, sitting in front of the stores, talking in their mobile phones.
It is not political correct to call them Roma, that is why they are called EU beggers.

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@camlok,

camlok wrote:

I forget which part/amendment allows for interning American citizens or made up "terrorists" locked away for years in US black holes/gulags.

It's the part of the Constitution that authorizes the US government to wage war on behalf of the American people.

Detaining captured enemy fighters is a normal part of warfare.

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What's been fascinating to watch is the immediate response of the alt-right which was able to churn out scores of web pages, videos, and message board threads backing up Trump's baseless claims and predicting astounding revelations of corruption by the former administration. These scurrilous accounts were dutifully picked up by the right's junior level spear carriers and shared with us here. What's funny — and pathetic — is the absolute certainty shown by the wild-eyed Trumpettes while those closest to the Oval Office are much more circumspect:

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“No, that’s above my pay grade,” said Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary and a feisty Trump loyalist, when asked on Tuesday at an on-camera briefing if he had seen any evidence to back up Mr. Trump’s accusation.

“No comment,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions said earlier in the day. Last week, Mr. Sessions recused himself from any investigations involving the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russia.

“I don’t know anything about it,” John F. Kelly, the homeland security secretary, said on CNN on Monday. Mr. Kelly shrugged and added that “if the president of the United States said that, he’s got his reasons to say it.”

Representative Devin Nunes, Republican of California and the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and Senator Richard M. Burr, Republican of North Carolina and the chairman of the Senate intelligence panel, have said they will add Mr. Trump’s request to pre-existing inquiries into intelligence community leaks.

But Mr. Nunes and Mr. Burr said they had not seen specific evidence backing up Mr. Trump’s claim.

Other Hill Republicans have responded with similar verbal shrugs. Senator John Cornyn of Texas, a member of the Intelligence Committee, said on Tuesday that he “didn’t know what the basis” of Mr. Trump’s statement was.

NYT

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@izzythepush,

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Thanks, it's nice to discuss language differences with an American without it turning into who is right.

Except for bacon. We are quite certain that English "bacon" is composed of fatty chunks of dried meat soaked in a salt lick. W have a similar piedmont "treat" called Virginia ham that is used to make red-wye gravy. Bfore it can be eaten it needs to be soaked in several changes of fresh water over several days so that it loses much of its salt and swells a bit.

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@farmerman,

20% or more of the English or better British bacon comes from Denmark.
So please do not speak ill of Danish Bacon. There is nothing rotten in the State of Denmark.
I like Danish Bacon and how bacon is served in GB

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@georgeob1,

Georgeob1 lecturing others on humility, now I've seen everything.

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@saab,

As far as liking crappy bacon goes, Farmerman is like Camlok and the 9/11 conspiracy, just as deranged, just as obsessed and just as wrong.

American bacon is horrible, low grade cheap streaky stuff. You need to have been fed on a diet of 200+ banned (in Europe) additives to be able to stomach it.

British, (and Scandinavian bacon) is proof of the existence of God.

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@saab,

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Swedes usually do not blow their horns

I almost never use my car horn. I think it is more friendly and personal to open my window and yell the word "honk".

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@McGentrix,

Don't ever post such profane stuff again.

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