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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:35 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
Drax is not getting it, Layman. You have to be clearer. He's not understanding that to immigrate to somewhere, you have emigrate from somewhere. People will migrate also.
You think, my work at and for the German Emigration Center and Museum wasn't selling tickets but perhaps my colleagues didn't know it either.
revelette1
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:37 am
Quote:
An Indian immigrant is murdered. It’s part of a spike in hate crimes

The killing of 32-year-old Srinivas Kuchibhotla in a bar in Olathe, Kan., on Feb. 20 has shaken the Indian American community. And since then, still more Indian Americans have been shot.

On March 2, store owner Harnish Patel was killed in Lancaster, S.C., although ethnicity may not have been a motive. And on March 3, Deep Rai, a Sikh man, was shot and injured in front of his house in a Seattle suburb, reportedly after the attacker shouted “go back to your country.” That was unnervingly similar to what happened in Kansas, where alleged killer Adam Purinton walked up to two Indian engineers in a bar and asked whether they were in the U.S. legally. Before shooting, witnesses said, he yelled, “Get out of my country.” Later, talking with a bartender in another town, he bragged about shooting “two Iranians.”

Both the Kansas and Washington attacks are being investigated as hate crimes — which, in plain speak, means that the victims were targeted because of perceived ethnic and religious identity based on their physical appearance.

Indian Americans in particular — and South Asians in general — are a highly diverse community. Indians are Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Jains, Buddhists and other religions; they come from very different regions and backgrounds and speak different languages. Their targeting reveals that American racism can lump together people who appear physically similar in particular ways as “suspicious,” “threatening” and “outsider” — interpreting their appearance to mean they are Muslim and Middle Eastern.

Segments of Indian Americans struggle with how to react to the targeting — whether to act in solidarity with the other targeted communities or find ways of distinguishing from them.


More at the source
McGentrix
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:37 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
Drax is not getting it, Layman. You have to be clearer. He's not understanding that to immigrate to somewhere, you have emigrate from somewhere. People will migrate also.
You think, my work at and for the German Emigration Center and Museum wasn't selling tickets but perhaps my colleagues didn't know it either.


Maybe it's a language barrier.
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blatham
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:37 am
@georgeob1,
My goodness, george. It's a classic song from one of America's most talented and lauded composers and lyricists, Randy Newman. 20 nominations for academy awards (has won twice), 6 golden globe nominations, 15 grammy nominations (won 6), and a shitload of other awards and recognitions.

The reason I quoted it is because in this song (and in others) Newman satirizes American myths - myths of grandiosity, of national innocence, of racial injustice and, one would have to add, stupidity.

So that's for your edification. If you need to know more about your own country and its artists, I'd be pleased to help you out.

As regards the rest of your post - normally I no longer bother with you because you've taken to slagging me personally in nearly ever post because you are angry that I voice a political position at odds with your own and because I, like Newman, take aim at American stupiditude.

I know what Carson said. I've read it and listened to it.
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"That's what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity."

"There were other immigrants who came in the bottom of slave ships, who worked even longer, even harder, for less, but they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land,"

"And do you know of all the nations in the world, this one, the United States of America, is the only one big enough and great enough to allow all those people to realize their dream. And this is our opportunity to enhance that dream,"


It's ragingly stupid to frame the black experience in these terms. It denies or refuses to confront history and the present. Slaves "had a dream" is like saying that the poor bastards who got shoved into Russian gulags and trying to figure ways to stay fed and alive once there "had a dream" of betterment.

It's obvious what he was trying to do - forward particular mythologies about the US being the singular national entity on earth with broad cultural resilience and zest for accomplishment and equality (not really, but something of the sort agreeable to your political views).

And it is certainly far from the only fruitcake thing this guy has said. Like,
"You know Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery" or the bizarre idiocy about the pyramids (there have been more but three is enough).

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blatham
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:44 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Cool, didn't know that. Then you know what it is like to deal with the regulatory morass in America. Was your business manufacturing or service?

Service. We had a retail outlet in both cities. But also Jane as a psychoanalyst was running her practice as well (in three states including Texas) while we were together. There were regulatory hurdles some of which were an annoyance but not oppressive. And I've had businesses in Canada related to renovations and working in construction sites. Here I was usually self-employed and had chosen not to hire others so that was all quite simple.
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blatham
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:49 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
I guess my point is that I see Rush Limbaugh quoted by liberals almost 20:1 on A2K. That's all.

OK. Rush used to be quoted by folks on the right far more than presently. That's not just because he is no longer a unique voice but because almost all the new right wing media entities have followed his model. That is what makes him important historically. "Echo Chamber" by Jamieson and Cappella is a book I know you'll order up as soon as you see i've recommended it.
blatham
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:50 am
@farmerman,
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the fact that "liberals" quote Limbaugh i that they seem to be the only one's who can catch the unintended irony.

Actually, that's a hell of a smart point, farmerman.
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gungasnake
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:52 am
@revelette1,
Any sort of a spike in hate crimes going on right now is an artifact of the eight years of hate of the Obunga regime.
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McGentrix
 
  -1  
Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:55 am
@blatham,
Yeah, I don't read books anymore as I don't have the time. Busy, busy, busy these days.

Rush has been a successful entertainer because he found a niche market that was being under served. His political opinions are directed at his listeners and his enemies listen so they can complain about him. I don't like Rush because I find him too pedantic and rigid.

I listen to NPR until I get angry then I listen to music on way to work and I listen to Hannity on way home because I find him humorous and he has a very similar political outlook as I do.
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blatham
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:56 am
@McGentrix,
I had to look at Layman's post because I knew this would be what was said
Quote:
people like Limbaugh and Ann Coulter are primarily entertainers,

That's Limbaugh's claim. And he's lying which really ought to be obvious.

If someone were to shoot Tom Hanks or Al Pacino or Madonna or Paul McCartney, there would be no political consequences or repercussions.

But if someone was to shoot Limbaugh or Coulter or Hannity, the immediate assumption would be political motivation and there would be political repercussions of significance.

Edit: to make this even more obvious, imagine first if, on the same day, Hanks, Pacino, Madonna and McCartney were all shot, with a clear connection between all murders. It would be weird and you'd know something was up but one would ascribe a bizarre madness at the root of this campaign.

Now imagine Limbaugh, Coulter and Hannity each being shot and killed on the same day with a clear link between each shooting.

Entertainers? That's really dumb.
layman
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:59 am
OSHA's idea of a "serious safety violation' is having a guy get four feet off the ground on a step ladder without having one end of a rope tied around his waist, then draped over a tree limb, with 3 others guys on the other end of the rope, holding it taut, eh?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 11:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Emigrant vs Immigrant

Difference between emigrant and immigrant is considered confusing by many people mainly because the two terms are similar in appearance. However, they have very different meaning. In fact, they are antonyms. The confusion people have with the difference between emigrant and immigrant has simply to do with the perspective of a person from his geographical location. If you are an Indian citizen and moving out of the country to settle in the US, you are an emigrant for all your friends and relatives back in India. In fact, to all those who reside within Indian boundaries, you will be labeled as an emigrant. But, for those in the US, you are an immigrant. That is because you have come from another country to settle in their country. So, for US people, you are an immigrant.
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gungasnake
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 12:02 pm
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McGentrix
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 12:14 pm
@blatham,
Wasn't that Jon Stewart's thing? He was just a comedian that followed a show with puppets making crank phone calls?

No, I agree with Layman that they are entertainer's. Like Johnny Carson in the old days.
layman
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 12:22 pm
@McGentrix,
Cheese-eaters have to take Limbaugh, et al, seriously because they MUST have something to trigger their MORAL OUTRAGE. Without that, they feel useless and unimportant.
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blatham
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 12:25 pm
@McGentrix,
Feel free to continue with that notion.
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blatham
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 12:38 pm
Yesterday, Chaffetz said Americans might have to forgo purchasing a shiny new iPhone if they want medical insurance under the GOP plan. Steve Benen addresses the notion.
Quote:
On its face, Chaffetz’s argument is plainly foolish. A new iPhone costs several hundred dollars, while decent health care insurance costs several thousand dollars a year. For a congressman who enjoys a generous, taxpayer-financed salary and benefits package to suggest low-income Americans should give up their smart phones in order to buy health security is misguided.

But I think there’s also an assumption among many on the right that struggling Americans have themselves to blame, and the poor are simply making bad decisions with their available resources. Chaffetz’s on-air comments to CNN are practically a caricature of the sentiment: maybe struggling families would be able to buy their own coverage, without government aid, the argument goes, if only they didn’t bother with a smart phone.

It’s a perspective predicated on the idea that low-income families would be in better shape if they reprioritized. It’s also why GOP lawmakers routinely vote to cut food stamps and unemployment benefits.

I understand that voting decisions are often irrational, but I’ll look forward to the public reactions to news that the Republican health care plan directs resources from the bottom up, gives the wealthy a big tax break, undermines working families’ health security, and its defenders are asking the poor to take care of themselves by forgoing iPhone purchases.
Benen
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blatham
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 12:45 pm
pssst... don't tell anyone but committee voting on the GOP healthcare bill, released yesterday, will begin tomorrow.

What do you think the chances are that anyone has read the thing? I mean, as Trump recently said, "No one knew how complicated" this stuff is.

And after all, we'll recall that nobody read the ACA. Remember that?
cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 7 Mar, 2017 12:50 pm
@blatham,
From RedStateWatcher:
Quote:

"Trumpcare doesn't replace the Affordable Care Act, it forces millions of Americans to pay more for less care. This plan would cut and cap Medicaid, defund Planned Parenthood, and force Americans, particularly older Americans, to pay more out of pocket for their medical care all so insurance companies can pad their bottom line.

It cuts taxes on the rich to make middle class families pay more. To make matters worse, this sham of a replacement would rip treatment away from hundreds of thousands of Americans dealing with opioid addiction, breaking the President's word that he would expand treatment, not cut it.

My comment: What! They expected Trump to tell the truth?

This bill is a giveaway to the wealthy and insurance companies at the expense of American families, and Senate Democrats will work hard to see that it is defeated."


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/donald-trumps-big-lie-health-care
layman
 
  -1  
Tue 7 Mar, 2017 12:56 pm
Those cut-ups at the Washington Post do the funniest things, eh?

Quote:
Washington Post employee posed as ICE agent, police say

A Washington Post employee was arrested last month and charged with impersonating an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent following an FBI raid, court documents show.

Itai Ozderman, 35, is accused of impersonating an ICE officer throughout Falls Church, Va., on more than one occasion, according to Montgomery County District Court documents. Police say that he sported a bulletproof vest bearing the ICE logo...

When the FBI entered his home in Maryland bearing a search warrant, they discovered 10 weapons, including two M4-style assault rifles and a shotgun. They also found body armor and tactical vests.

Ozderman faces up to five years in prison and/or $4,500 in fines.

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