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giujohn
 
  -1  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

True: It's called "defamation of character."
Unfortunately, Obama is too high class to lower himself to Trump's level.


In order to defame someone's character you actually have to have some...Obama doesn't have any. He does have class...however it's all low and he spells it with a k.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:01 pm
@blatham,
With his thin skin, I'm sure he has many sleepless nights. The "greatest" he mentions so frequently is the bad news he gets almost daily; "greatest con, greatest liar, greatest divider, greatest racial and religious bigot, greatest ego and greatest news-maker of our times. His deflections aren't working.
blatham
 
  4  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:07 pm
Didn't know this. Trump spokesperson who is suddenly appearing everywhere, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, is Mike Huckabee's daughter.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:12 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
President-elect Donald J. Trump’s transition staff has issued a blanket edict requiring politically appointed ambassadors to leave their overseas posts by Inauguration Day, according to several American diplomats familiar with the plan, breaking with decades of precedent by declining to provide even the briefest of grace periods.

The mandate — issued “without exceptions,” according to a terse State Department cable sent on Dec. 23, diplomats who saw it said — threatens to leave the United States without Senate-confirmed envoys for months in critical nations like Germany, Canada and Britain. In the past, administrations of both parties have often granted extensions on a case-by-case basis to allow a handful of ambassadors, particularly those with school-age children, to remain in place for weeks or months.

Mr. Trump, by contrast, has taken a hard line against leaving any of President Obama’s political appointees in place as he prepares to take office on Jan. 20 with a mission of dismantling many of his predecessor’s signature foreign and domestic policy achievements. “Political” ambassadors, many of them major donors who are nominated by virtue of close ties with the president, almost always leave at the end of his term; ambassadors who are career diplomats often remain in their posts.


Not this time.
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hightor
 
  2  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:17 pm
@giujohn,
Quote:
let's remember Obama's abuse of the IRS against political enemies

Yeah, let's — since you've obviously forgotten!

Quote:
FBI investigation

In January 2014, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced that it had found no evidence warranting the filing of federal criminal charges in connection with the affair. The FBI stated it found no evidence of "enemy hunting" of the kind that had been suspected, but that the investigation did reveal the IRS to be a mismanaged bureaucracy enforcing rules that IRS personnel did not fully understand. The officials indicated, however, that the investigation is continuing.[155][156][157][158]
DOJ investigation

In October 2015, the Justice Department notified Congress that there would be no charges against the former IRS official Lois Lerner or against anyone else in the IRS. The investigation found no evidence of illegal activity or the partisan targeting of political groups and found that no IRS official attempted to obstruct justice. The DOJ investigation did find evidence of mismanagement and Lerner's poor judgement in using her IRS account for personal messages but said "...poor management is not a crime."[159][160][1

(wiki)
blatham
 
  5  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
As Elizabeth Drew noted in her interview at Vox with Ezra Klein, Trump is very clearly unhappy as president.

But that was completely predictable going in. As I said during the primaries, he didn't want to be President (with the dedicated work and study that would fall to him, nor with the real world situation where he would have to listen to others for long periods of time). He just wanted to be Pharaoh. He wanted to "show those people" who dissed him for years. He wanted the status.

Now he has gone and fucked himself really thoroughly. Unfortunately he's ******* the country as well.
blatham
 
  3  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:22 pm
Ex-Leninist David Horowitz
Quote:
In his article, Horowitz wrote that there had been “a silent coup within the intelligence agencies” against Trump, and he argued for a wholesale firing of political appointees who don’t “share the views of the president.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/steve-king-purge-leftists

Clearly some affinity for Stalin as well.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:23 pm
@blatham,
If he survives the four years without getting impeached, he'll be happy to be recorded in the history books.
I hope the historians include his racial and religious bigotry using his own words.
giujohn
 
  0  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:28 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
let's remember Obama's abuse of the IRS against political enemies

Yeah, let's — since you've obviously forgotten!

Quote:
FBI investigation

In January 2014, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced that it had found no evidence warranting the filing of federal criminal charges in connection with the affair. The FBI stated it found no evidence of "enemy hunting" of the kind that had been suspected, but that the investigation did reveal the IRS to be a mismanaged bureaucracy enforcing rules that IRS personnel did not fully understand. The officials indicated, however, that the investigation is continuing.[155][156][157][158]
DOJ investigation

In October 2015, the Justice Department notified Congress that there would be no charges against the former IRS official Lois Lerner or against anyone else in the IRS. The investigation found no evidence of illegal activity or the partisan targeting of political groups and found that no IRS official attempted to obstruct justice. The DOJ investigation did find evidence of mismanagement and Lerner's poor judgement in using her IRS account for personal messages but said "...poor management is not a crime."[159][160][1

(wiki)


Yeah...That's the same as fbi who said Hillary was guilty but they weren't going to charge her.
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:42 pm
Conway is such a dirtbag.
Quote:
White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said Monday that Donald Trump may have claimed that his predecessor ordered wiretaps of his phones during the presidential campaign because the President receives "information and intelligence that the rest of us do not."

Conway was asked during an appearance on "Fox and Friends" how Trump knew that his phones had been tapped by President Barack Obama. Trump made the explosive, unsubstantiated claim in a series of tweets Saturday.

"Let me answer that globally," she said. "He is the President of the United States. He has information and intelligence that the rest of us do not. And that's the way it should be for Presidents."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conway-wiretapping-allegation-trump-has-info-we-dont

There's a bullshit flurry for you. "Globally" means here, "Using this word/concept, I can now follow up with any claim I or Trump might want to make no matter how absurd and suggest it is true." She neither cites evidence to back up the claim nor even states that Trump is in possession of it.

Now take that and add this smart point from Josh Marshall.
Quote:
The President says this happened. He says he has the evidence. He knows it happened. If he knows it happened, there's nothing to investigate. The President has plenary power to declassify and publicize anything he wants. Anything. He can do it by the book or he can do it basically by fiat with no one involved at all.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/this-is-ridiculous
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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
We'll see. I don't think he will last four years. But how that might end, if it does, is quite unclear and fraught with chaos however it happens.
blatham
 
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Mon 6 Mar, 2017 12:49 pm
Quote:
Koch-Backed Groups Stepping Up Obamacare Repeal Pressure Campaign
TPM
It really is critically important to fully understand who/what is behind the Freedom Caucus crowd and what they are up to. These guys are radical ideologues but they have billions to spend and they know how to organize and (at least until Jane Mayer's reporting) operate with stealth.
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 01:00 pm
From Hayes at the Weekly Standard
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...White House sources acknowledge that Trump had no idea whether the claims he was making were true when he made them.

..We don't pretend to have the answers to these questions—or the dozens of others that have brought us to this moment of crisis. But it is a moment of crisis. And as we suggest in the accompanying editorial, one necessary response is radical transparency—the kind of transparency that many of us might not favor in other circumstances but the kind that is required right now..
WS
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blatham
 
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Mon 6 Mar, 2017 01:03 pm
From Steve Benen saying what really ought to be obvious
Quote:
A White House official told Axios’ Mike Allen, in reference to Trump’s claim, “Even if it turns out not to be true that they surveilled Trump Tower, he will have a very good point to make about the level of sabotage coming from Obama holdovers.” That’s insane. Presidents don’t get to lie to the public in order to prove some unrelated point about a different thing the president likes to whine about. “Even if it turns out not to be” is a not-so-subtle admission that even the White House suspects Trump is deliberately pushing a bogus line
. Benen
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roger
 
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Mon 6 Mar, 2017 01:12 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:



[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG9OvVYvviQ[/youtube]


Richard Pryor at least has the virtue of being funny.
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 01:16 pm
Quote:
Vox recently talked to a series of CPAC attendees, many of whom continued to complain bitterly about Obama's travel costs and downtime. Told that Donald Trump is actually spending more on travel and enjoying more downtime, conservatives were incredulous. The facts "can't possibly be right," one said. "That absolutely can't be right."

Reality, however, is stubborn. Trump headlined a political fundraiser on Friday night, before heading to Mar-a-Lago, the for-profit club he still owns, for another relaxing weekend. Over the last five weekends, the president has visited his luxury resort four times -- each trip costs American taxpayers about $3 million -- and as of last night, Trump had spent 31% of his presidency at Mar-a-Lago. He's now played golf eight times since taking office six weeks ago.

In October 2014, Trump whined via Twitter, "We pay for Obama's travel so he can fundraise millions so Democrats can run on lies. Then we pay for his golf." A year later, as a presidential candidate, Trump declared that if he were in office, he'd dispense with breaks. "I'd want to stay in the White House and work my ass off," he told voters.
Benen
That first graph - the commonality of such a response from Trump supporters - is why I no longer bother to engage them in debate or even bother talking to them much at all. They are a lost cause.
blatham
 
  3  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 01:19 pm
@roger,
Quote:
Richard Pryor at least has the virtue of being funny.

Much more than funny, I think, though certainly a comedic genius. He not only changed black culture in significant ways he was unrelenting in demanding honesty from we white folks in how we interacted with and though about blacks and their/our culture.
farmerman
 
  2  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 01:24 pm
@blatham,
Whats really interesting is how Faux News is trying to cover the Trump tweets as potentially truthful. They are busy MAKING UP scenarios that "If they are true, they are illegal actions by the former president"





roger
 
  2  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 01:33 pm
@farmerman,
I wonder if "potentially truthful" will enter the language the same as "alternate facts".
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 6 Mar, 2017 01:34 pm
@blatham,
Trump has always been a liar. That's not going to change because he became president.

Trump's five biggest lies since taking office:
http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/01/23/trumps-five-biggest-lies-since-taking-office/
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