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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
layman
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:04 pm
@georgeob1,
Brings to mind something Ambrose Bierce once said, eh?

Quote:
To be positive: To be mistaken at the top of one's voice.
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McGentrix
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:10 pm
@oralloy,
Response moderated: Personal attack. See more info.
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layman
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:12 pm
Truth is, Trump is extremely "soft" on immigration. If I were President I would indeed ban all muslims.

And all Hindus, Buddists, Christians, Frogs, Krauts, Limeys, towelheads and so on, all down the line.

We don't need NO damn foreigners here until we get our own people taken care of.
layman
 
  0  
Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:16 pm
@layman,
Of course I would make some limited exceptions for those willing and able to pay a hefty "admission fee," but that's it. They don't let ya just wander on in to Disneyland without making your ass pay up. Why should the greatest show on earth (USA) let these moochers in for nuthin, I ask ya?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:28 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
That may well be true. I never thought there was much substance there.


How about Trump's statement that "Mexicans are criminals and rapists?"
layman
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:30 pm
@layman,
I must admit that I do have a certain fondness for Hindus. They believe in reincarnation, and that's consistent with a life-long dream of mine.

I would love to come back as a champion thorough-bred hoss like Seabiscuit. Then I romp around for a spell, getting all kinds of money, admiration, and attention, then I retire and everybody and his brother wants to pay ME to **** their women, see?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:30 pm
@georgeob1,
Most of Trump's statements are "gorilla dust." Politifact says Trump lies over 70% of the time.

You support him? ROFLMAO
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layman
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
How about Trump's statement that "Mexicans are criminals and rapists?"


You're batting 1.000, Al. Another losing try. Never said it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:31 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Cicerone may be ill-informed and unaware, but he is never uncertain.


If I am so ill-informed, you can surely cut and paste from any of my post and prove it.

I think you need to look in the mirror when you make such a blanket claim of another poster.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:38 pm
@georgeob1,
Here. Be my guest. You might learn something from professionals in the field of mental health.
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/trump-s-mental-health-the-elephant-in-the-room-883814979800
revelette1
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:39 pm
Quote:
Trump’s Laughable War on Leaks


Leaks about what now resigned National Security Advisor Michael Flynn did or did not convey to Russia Ambassador Sergei Kislyak in a late December phone call not only led to the first administration shakeup but also confirmed that the Washington rules of engagement have not changed after all.

In Washington, the weaponized leak always gets through.

“The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers!” President Trump tweeted before his February 16 press conference to comment on the Flynn fiasco. "They will be caught!” he predicted.

No, they won’t be caught, is what history says, and more: In Washington, the leaks grow like the buckets of water in Walt Disney’s “The Sorcerer’s Apprentice.”

More worrisome to Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, whose job is to command the president’s people, history shows that trying to close off the leaks leads to blame-shifting, low morale, resignations and eventually to political abandonment by Congress.

The outline above is a bloodless diagramming of the infamous Watergate scandal.

Recall that the leak of the infelicitous but not vital Pentagon Papers led to the Nixon Administration’s creating the so-called Plumbers, the sad-sack volunteer burglars led by Gordon Liddy and Howard Hunt, whose efforts to solve leaks led to a creepy break-in at Daniel Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office in September, 1971 and then to the boneheaded Watergate break-in of June, 1972.

After that, President Nixon sank in a flood of leaks for twenty-six months until his terse resignation on the day he recognized that forced removal from office by the Senate was imminent.

Following the Flynn resignation, there was a moment for the White House to regain balance and go forward with the overwhelming tasks at hand of creating a new government. Instead, the White House chose to follow in the damp footsteps of the Nixon White House and treat the leakers as the problem.

What else could the president be indicating in his lengthy press conference of Thursday February 16 when asked about leaks?

“Yes, we're looking at them very — very, very serious. I've gone to all of the folks in charge of the various agencies, and we're — I've actually called the Justice Department to look into the leaks. Those are criminal leaks.”

To underline how completely the White House has misapprehended the struggle ahead, the president invoked the power of the new Attorney General, as if that was sure to stop the leaks: “They're put out by people either in agencies — I think you'll see it stopping because now we have our people in. We just had Jeff Sessions approved. In Justice, as an example. So, we are looking into that very seriously. It's a criminal act.”

No, the record shows that leaks are not all that criminal. For example, publishing leaked government information that is accurate has never led to either a reporter or a publisher being prosecuted.

The leaker can be pursued relentlessly -- though very rarely successfully.

Even then, intimidation doesn’t work, as there is always another leaker. The Obama Administration set a new record of ten investigations against leakers. However, the most prominent cases, Bradley Manning, Julian Assange and Edward Snowden, did not bring plaudits for President Obama – and further entangled the Obama White House in doubts about its competence.

After President Trump’s press conference, there was a small possibility that this was bluster; and that the White House was not actually launching dragnets, black bag jobs, Ministry of Truth round-ups.

One week later, all hope of avoiding the Nixonian scenario of Leak Apocalypse was gone with the leak that Priebus had irregularly contacted the FBI. The particulars of the Priebus-to-FBI-about-Russia leak are not crucial for the game. What is critical is the White House reaction to the leak.

Early Friday morning February 24, the president sent two serial tweets that certainly look to be a chastisement of law enforcement: “The FBI is totally unable to stop the national security "leakers" that have permeated our government for a long time. They can't even/ Find the leakers within the FBI itself.”

Explicating his alarm, the president asserted, “Classified information is being given to the media that could have devastating effect on U. S.” In closing, at 7:36 a.m., an imperative order from the commander-in-chief was keyed in all caps, “FIND NOW.”

If the New Plumbers were still getting their waders laced up, they are certainly in the field now following the president’s dismissal of the FBI’s adequacy.

The week ended with a warning that these are just the beginning days of whack-a-leak.

Josh Rogin reported in the Washington Post that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson directed his legal office to issue a “Sensitive But Unclassified” four-page memo to privileged staff that warned against leaking, arguing ponderously, “When such information is leaked … It chills the willingness of senior government officials to seek robust and candid advice…”

Most that can be said about the power of the Washington leaker and the futility of the Trump Administration’s quest is in the fact that Tillerson’s memo was immediately leaked.



source
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:40 pm
@georgeob1,
Politifact's on Trump's lies.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
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layman
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
A group of shrinks did an historical analysis of narcissism in U.S Presidents. 5 of the top 6 were democrats (LBJ, JFK, FDR, Clinton, etc.) The other was an independent (Teddy Roosevelt).

Obama wasn't included at that time, or it would have been 6 out of the top 7, ya know?
layman
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:51 pm
@revelette1,
Quote:
In Washington, the weaponized leak always gets through.


These leakers and leak accomplices (which includes the press) who disclose and/or publish classified info are committing felonies that have not been prosecuted much in the past. Wait until Trump has 40 to 50 of them doin hard time in Leavenworth, and see how many traitorous leakers still want to play their little political games, eh?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 06:56 pm
@layman,
CLUE: We're talking about our current president who can do harm to this world. It's HIS mental state that's in question.
gungasnake
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 07:00 pm
Alex Jones talks about Pizzagazte:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A86s4yowLE



http://themillenniumreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/maxresdefault-4.jpg
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layman
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 07:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

CLUE: We're talking about our current president who can do harm to this world. It's HIS mental state that's in question.


Yeah, so? FDR, JFK, LBJ and those seemed to get the done, eh?
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gungasnake
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 07:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
It's HIS mental state that's in question.


Not by anybody with brains and talent. That's the good news.


Meaningful issues in the 2016 election in something like order of importance:

The peace and safety of the world (Putin had told his military that if Hildabeast won the election, they were basically at war) while Justin Raimondo at antiwar dot com had endorsed Trump due to Trump's long-time adversity to frivolous use of the US military.

The collapse of the Wall St./London banking and monetary system. Donald Trump was the only person in the picture with both the guts and the resources to take on the bankers. Bankers in fact fear DT enough to have had 54 private jets parked at an offshore resort for a stop-Trump-at-any-cost meeting:
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=54+private+jets+georgia+resort+trump&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Immigration (Hilda, George, and Bork Obunga want a total end to borders and mass importation of what they view as democrat voting blocks, the cost to the nation be damned).

Gangsterism ( Clinton Foundation, pay2play, Clinton body count, murders, rape allegations... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3426438/posts?page=25#25 )

Treaties and trade deals, returning meaningful industry to the United States.

Racism/victimology ( Soros/BLM, orchestrated riots...)

All of those issues (other issues in the election are relatively minor) strongly mitigated in favor of Donald Trump and against the Hildabeast.

Americans are used to gangsterism and racism; what NOBODY is used to or has ever seen before is nuclear or thermonuclear war and hydrogen bombs going off, that would be a new experience for everybody. Hilda had stated that her first priority on taking office would be to kill Bashir Al Assad and that would have started WW-III.

The ONLY rational reason there was for voting for the Hildeabeast would have been that you are worried about dying of cancer, old age or some other mundane cause, and wasnted to go out in a blaze of glory in some sort of a nuclear holocaust in which the whole human race goes out at the same time.

We had a God-given shot at electing a president who would put Wall St. into an absolute zero-leverage situation and we took it; had we blown that chance and particularly if we had blown it for any sort of an asinine reason, it would not recur in the lifetime of anybody alive today.

But the main question is all the snowflakes crying because they've just been saved from a nuclear war and holocaust. That is just ******* hard for rational/normal people to understand...

layman
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 07:36 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
But the main question is all the snowflakes crying because they've just been saved from a nuclear war and holocaust. That is just ******* hard for rational/normal people to understand...


I agree. The masochism, self-hatred, and suicidal tendencies of the left are utterly unfathomable to me.
gungasnake
 
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Sun 26 Feb, 2017 07:40 pm
More of Alex Jones on Pizzagate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxcIuf59imE

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