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oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 09:42 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
This WAS insurrection. I would love to see some of them have 10 to 20 years to reflect on what Trump did to them.

Progressive intolerance for peaceful protesters never fails to appall.
revelette3
 
  5  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 09:47 am
@oralloy,
Four dead is hardly peaceful, breaking into the nations capitol building is hardly peaceful. They are crimes. duh.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 09:51 am
@revelette3,
It's pretty Orwellian to use the fact that the police gunned down a peaceful protester as an argument that the protester wasn't peaceful.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 09:54 am


I only post ths, because German media equipment was destroyed.
There are quite a few more videos online (mainly taken by the criminals themselves) showing how "peaceful" they have been.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 09:59 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Best thing would be for the Dems to pass voting rights legislation and make sure the Republicans never take national power again.

The Democrats don't have the votes to get anything radical and controversial passed. The moderates will oppose it.

And voting rights legislation would never have that effect anyway. Our political system will always balance power between two parties.


hightor wrote:
Something has got to be done about the amount of firepower these idiots have access to...time to repeal/rewrite the Second Amendment.

Progressives really hate freedom and civil liberties. This is why it is important to defeat them and elect Republicans.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:00 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
This person might recall that, prior to the post '70 politicization of the NRA, the firearms community managed to flourish very well without assault-style weapons, extended clips, bump stocks, etc.

The purchase of new assault-style weapons was outlawed 35 years ago. The limited number of used assault-style weapons from before the ban are expensive collectors items that most people cannot afford.

Bump stocks were outlawed a few years ago.

The only thing on your list that people have ready access to today are large magazines.


hightor wrote:
A repeal won't be necessary when the Sotomayor Court reinterprets the wording of the anachronistic amendment in 2030.

All Heller does is require the government to have a good reason to justify a gun restriction before it is allowed. Restrictions on the three items that you listed above can probably be justified, and so would likely pass muster under Heller.

However, progressives don't care about the three items that you listed. Progressives want to impose unjustifiable gun restrictions like outlawing pistol grips on semi-auto long guns.

The fact that progressives want to abolish freedom and civil liberties so they can impose unjustifiable gun restrictions is an excellent reason for people to vote for Republicans.
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Rebelofnj
 
  7  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:09 am
@oralloy,
What happened yesterday was not peaceful, with Trump supporters breaking into the the Capitol Building, forcing Pence (not Trump) to call for the National Guard.

Both Democrats and Republicans, including Trump's advisors and officials, have all denounced the events.

According to Trump months ago:
Quote:
have authorized the Federal Government to arrest anyone who vandalizes or destroys any monument, statue or other such Federal property in the U.S. with up to 10 years in prison, per the Veteran’s Memorial Preservation Act, or such other laws that may be pertinent
This action is taken effective immediately, but may also be used retroactively for destruction or vandalism already caused. There will be no exceptions!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275379758021390336

On a related note, as a result of the chaotic events, no US Senator joined in Rep. Louis Gohmert's objection to Wisconsin's electoral votes.
https://wxow.com/2021/01/07/challenge-to-wisconsins-electoral-votes-fails-when-no-senators-object/
glitterbag
 
  6  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:11 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

It's pretty Orwellian to use the fact that the police gunned down a peaceful protester as an argument that the protester wasn't peaceful.


I guess you missed the whole 'stand your ground' responsibly the police have to prevent a mob from storming a Federal Building. I'm surprised more of the looters were not shot.
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snood
 
  7  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:15 am
Zuckerberg just announced that he’s extending the ban on Trump’s Instagram and Facebook accounts indefinitely.
farmerman
 
  3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:16 am
@snood,
that should help a bit.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:16 am
@snood,
The government really needs to crack down on these tech companies, and maybe even break them up into smaller companies.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:20 am
@snood,
About bloody time.

It’s amazing it’s gone this far.
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hightor
 
  3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:25 am
a fabulist wrote:
You cannot provide any examples of me behaving that way.

For the second time, pics or it didn't happen.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:26 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
I consider them peaceful protesters.
Well, if trespassing, resistance to the police, destruction of other people's property etc is peaceful .... only by white people and Trump supporters, of course.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:34 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
a fabulist

You are the only person here who is lying. You cannot provide an example of an untrue statement in any of my posts.
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glitterbag
 
  7  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:42 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

oralloy wrote:
I consider them peaceful protesters.
Well, if trespassing, resistance to the police, destruction of other people's property etc is peaceful .... only by white people and Trump supporters, of course.


I think he's trying to say he's ok with violence as long as it targets people or beliefs he disagrees with....
oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 10:48 am
@glitterbag,
I'm saying that I do not consider the protesters to have been violent.
 

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