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Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:03 am
GOP leader McConnell congratulates Biden as president-elect

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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell congratulated Democrat Joe Biden as president-elect on Tuesday, saying the Electoral College “has spoken.”

The Republican leader’s statement, delivered in a speech on the Senate floor, ends weeks of silence over President Donald Trump’s defeat. It came a day after electors met and officially affirmed Biden’s election win.

“I want to congratulate President-elect Joe Biden,” McConnell said.

“Many of us had hoped the presidential election would yield a different result,” he said. “But our system of government has the processes to determine who will be sworn in on Jan. 20. The Electoral College has spoken.”

McConnell called Biden someone “who has devoted himself to public service for many years.” He also congratulated Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, saying “all Americans can take pride that our nation has a female vice president-elect for the very first time.”

McConnell prefaced his remarks with sweeping praise for what he characterized as Trump’s “endless” accomplishments during four years in office. He said Trump and Vice President Mike Pence “deserve our thanks.”

https://apnews.com/article/mitch-mcconnell-congratulates-joe-biden-2ed09a34fbbc3342fe45c733ee0dd725
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:04 am
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Was the SolarWinds Orion hack a signal to collect their Dominion Voting Systems data?

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As conspiracy theories go, this one is pretty mild on the "theory" and heavy on facts. Put them all together and we may have the miracle smoking gun emerging before our eyes that reelects President Trump.

Seems Dominion is still using SolarWinds, why? It is getting closer to the facts coming out and the massive fraud is close to being exposed in an undeniable way.
https://noqreport.com/2020/12/15/was-the-solarwinds-orion-hack-a-signal-to-collect-their-dominion-voting-systems-data/
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revelette3
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:04 am
@BillW,
They did however, work together with democrats on the impeachment and would have removed him from office if Nixon hadn't resigned. I always thought that started in earnest with the tea party and Sara Palin. But perhaps it started before.
BillRM
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:06 am
@revelette3,
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Nevertheless I am relieved. Our democracy held, scared there for a while.


Given that the source of this attack was a low grade conman with the help of a large percents of republican congress persons and states republican offerier holders we are hardly out of the wood as god help us if the next attack would be led by someone with brains.
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hightor
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:07 am
@blatham,
I'll say one thing about Reagan — he was willfully ignorant about ecology and he took the stupid side in the creationism vs science debate, and I agree with all the criticism Krugman heaps on him. But let's not forget that he signed the Montreal Protocol which eventually halted ozone depletion — maybe the last successful international agreement on the environment.

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In a 2015 letter to The Wall Street Journal, Lee Thomas, who headed the Environmental Protection Agency from 1986 to 1989, wrote: “President Reagan recognized the environmental risk of chlorofluorocarbons, heeding scientists who were increasingly convinced of the threat to human health, while many in the industry raised issues of cost, technical feasibility and scientific certainty.

“Reagan convened several Cabinet sessions to review and debate and concluded that action was justified and wise. With this direction, the U.S. played a leadership role in the negotiations that led to the formulation and implementation of the Montreal Protocol.”


Compare that with:

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As a presidential candidate, Donald Trump disparaged the treaty. At a 2016 West Virginia campaign rally, Trump said: “Give me a little spray. … You know you’re not allowed to use hairspray anymore because it affects the ozone, you know that, right? I said, you mean to tell me, cause you know hairspray’s not like it used to be, it used to be real good.

“Today you put the hairspray on, it’s good for 12 minutes, right. … So if I take hairspray and I spray it in my apartment, which is all sealed, you’re telling me that affects the ozone layer? ‘Yes. I say no way folks. No way. No way.’ That’s like a lot of the rules and regulations you people have in the mines, right, it’s the same kind of stuff.”

politico



blatham
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:17 am
@BillW,
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blatham, I believe the early days were Nixon.
As most historians recognize, it's no simple matter to carbon date any precise beginning to what we see now. Perhaps the Powell Memo, perhaps Goldwater, perhaps McCarthy, perhaps the New Awakening, perhaps the Civil War or even the Revolution. And there are threads that go back to European culture as well. But in terms of what Krugman is speaking of, I think he gets it right.
blatham
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:18 am
@hightor,
Absolutely fair.
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BillW
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:21 am
@revelette3,
rev, that's the lesson learned from Nixon - never capitulate again!

As far McConnell, yes - he is still a threat. But the current threat of actually being the country down ends on January 21st with the escort of theRump out Ot the WH.

Hopefully, McConnell threat will be eliminated with two Dems winning Senate in Georgia on Jan 6. McConnell has always been a threat. It has always been my belief he has been trying to take down the Government for decades!

Tea Party is where the Repubs started loading up on radicals that make revolution more possible!
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BillW
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:30 am
@blatham,
I definitely don't disagree with what you say and rev too. It is a unfolding revolution. However, lessons learn in the same generation are imprinted.

I was 20 during Nixon. I remember how so many people were so against him after he quit. Then, over the years they came back to him and said they never should have quit him. In fact, disclaiming they ever did.

Lesson learned through books are one thing, lessons learned in your lifetime are another!
BillW
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:35 am
@BillW,
BTW, I have always loved listening to Krugman. He is staid and to the point. His conclusions are also easy to understand and always right on!
blatham
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:35 am
@BillW,
I think we're about the same age. And many of the historians I've read, like Richard Hofstadter or Hannah Arendt were born long before us, so there's that. But we're talking about seriously complex social/cultural phenomena thus there are countless ways to view these matters.
BillW
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:37 am
@blatham,
Nothing has changed in recorded history - if I was religious I would bring up Cain and Able right now, but, I won't! 😎
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Frank Apisa
 
  4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:03 am
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

rev, have to go with the old, "it isn't over till it's over!"

I will feel much better come January 21, 21 and all is well!


I just said that in a discussion with my sister yesterday.

NOTHING is beyond Trump and the morons who continue to support and enable him.

I am hoping I will feel much more confident sometime after noon on January 20, 2021. Until then...I am wary.
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Frank Apisa
 
  4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:12 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
blatham, I believe the early days were Nixon.
As most historians recognize, it's no simple matter to carbon date any precise beginning to what we see now. Perhaps the Powell Memo, perhaps Goldwater, perhaps McCarthy, perhaps the New Awakening, perhaps the Civil War or even the Revolution. And there are threads that go back to European culture as well. But in terms of what Krugman is speaking of, I think he gets it right.


American conservatives have been WRONG on damn near every serious political crisis America has ever faced, Bernie.

American conservatives deplored talk of independence from Great Britain...and considered George III to be our liege lord. They considered our founding fathers to be traitors.

At the time of the American Civil War...American conservatives were the ones advocating for "states rights" (meaning the ability to own slaves). They were Democrats then.

At some point (mostly around the time that Democrats began advocating for civil rights) American conservatives shifted alliance from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

The Republican Party should be serving our nation as the loyal opposition. It has steadily...and unrelentingly...veered off into a sort of fascism.

It sucks. I hope they get their **** together now that The Abomination is out of office, but I suspect not.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:18 am
@Frank Apisa,
George III wasn’t that bad. He was interested in new agricultural techniques to increase productivity and was affectionately known as Farmer George.

We have a statue of him at the Bargate here, dressed as the Roman emperor Claudius.

He was certainly a dark sight better than his son the Prince Regent and later George IV.
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revelette3
 
  4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:23 am
Well hunkered down in my home, I guess I want to grab at the first ray of light since Biden actually won the general election I see. I consider McConnell to be able tamp down all the ones who are trying to bring a coup in congress, at least on the Senate side. Sure there will be crazy stunts, but I don't think it has a chance. I didn't think it before, but now I am almost sure.
BillW
 
  3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:36 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

GOP leader McConnell congratulates Biden as president-elect

So, now he's a RHINO!
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BillW
 
  3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:43 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:

Well hunkered down in my home, I guess I want to grab at the first ray of light since Biden actually won the general election I see. I consider McConnell to be able tamp down all the ones who are trying to bring a coup in congress, at least on the Senate side. Sure there will be crazy stunts, but I don't think it has a chance. I didn't think it before, but now I am almost sure.

I totally agree, then again, we AMERICANS have no other choice, do we?

I wonder, what was theRrump planning on renaming us? "TrumpLand", or " The Nation of Trump", maybe even "KissmyRump of America" (""One nation under theRump with Liberty and Justice for none").
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 12:15 pm
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In an interview with The Epoch Times, Gary Miliefsky, a founding member of the Department of Homeland Security and publisher of Cyber Defense Magazine, said of the Michigan audit team:

"Looking at their team, their patents, their experience, we now have a credible analysis that, as I predicted, the Algorithms being used in the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed to create systematic fraud and influence election results and, in this case, not in the favor of President Trump."

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16862/dominion-voting-systems
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 12:19 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

BTW, I have always loved listening to Krugman. He is staid and to the point. His conclusions are also easy to understand and always right on!

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Krugman, Wrong Again

https://www.nationalreview.com/2002/01/krugman-wrong-again-larry-kudlow/
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Is Paul Krugman the world’s wrongest economist?

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/11/17/is-paul-krugman-the-worlds-wrongest-economist-997142/
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Liberal Pundit Paul Krugman is Wrong Again

https://townhall.com/columnists/mikefuljenz/2017/12/13/liberal-pundit-paul-krugman-is-wrong-again-n2421765
Sure he is. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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