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coldjoint
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 03:59 pm
@BillW,
Quote:
A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a propaganda technique.

Is what the media and its enablers like you are doing. Your post is pure projection. Apparently the best you can do.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 04:05 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

i BET SOME CASH WITH PINKY AND IT PROBABLY WONT PAY OFF EVEN THOUGH the election is now WAAAY OVER.

i THINK ITS A PIKER WHO IS AS DISHONEST AND SCURRILOUS AS IS ITS LLEADER PLUMP.

Did someone say phony?
farmerman
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 04:08 pm
@coldjoint,
Only if you dont pay up, then you are a phony.
BillW
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 04:09 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 04:11 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Only if you dont pay up, then you are a phony.

So you are going to give me your name and address? I do not remembering betting, please refresh my memory.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 04:12 pm
@BillW,

Who cares? Just the people that hate Trump already. Articles demonizing him are a dime a dozen.
farmerman
 
  3  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 04:26 pm
@coldjoint,
I know , who cares? Certainly not Trumpies, they will believe anything and dont really demand facts and truth in their world.

Why worry about truth when lies are more easily spread among the uneducated old white guys?



HEY PINKY...LAST TRAIN FOR MINSK, BOOOAAAARdD!
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 04:35 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

I know , who cares? Certainly not Trumpies, they will believe anything and dont really demand facts and truth in their world.

Why worry about truth when lies are more easily spread among the uneducated old white guys?



HEY PINKY...LAST TRAIN FOR MINSK, BOOOAAAARdD!

I told you before, Russia was a hoax. China owning Braindead Biden and the Democratic party is a fact.
Builder
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 04:42 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
I told you before, Russia was a hoax.


It's all they've got, though. Plus, zero imagination.

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China owning Braindead Biden and the Democratic party is a fact.


Biden as a candidate proves the party is anything but democratic.

Clinton did a fabulous job of gutting the org, bankrupting it, and sending the good folks away.
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farmerman
 
  3  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 04:44 pm
@coldjoint,
dont forget to pack yer woolies, it can get mighty cold in minsk. If you think I believe ANYTHING you post (based upon your recent scads of BS "Evidence", you are as batshit as Trump)

BillW
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 05:13 pm
@farmerman,
I can't believe theRump does it again. What a butthole.

Quote:
Pentagon official who spread conspiracies, disparaged immigrants and refugees gets spot on influential West Point advisory board
By Andrew Kaczynski, Em Steck and Nathan McDermott, CNN

Updated 11:01 AM ET, Sat December 12, 2020

(CNN)A senior adviser at the Pentagon with a history of disparaging refugees and immigrants, spreading conspiracies, and other controversial rhetoric was nominated by President Donald Trump on Tuesday for a spot on West Point's advisory board.

Retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor, a West Point graduate, will sit on West Point's Board of Visitors, along with other appointees and members of Congress. The board carries out inquiries into the military academy's "morale and discipline, curriculum, instruction, physical equipment, fiscal affairs, and academic methods." It meets several times a year and provides independent advice and recommendations to the President on the military academy.

Macgregor's appointment, which typically involves serving out a three-year term, and does not require Senate confirmation, comes at a time when West Point is grappling with racism on campus and in its institutions.

Since his appointment, CNN has uncovered comments by the retired colonel claiming an "entitled" "underclass" concentrated in "large urban areas" poses a threat to society and that there were more White, mostly Irish "slaves" than African slaves in America in the late 1700s.

CNN's KFile previously reported on some of Macgregor's views on minorities, including a claim that Muslim refugees were "unwanted invaders" coming to Europe "with the goal of eventually turning Europe into an Islamic state."

In other comments, he repeatedly advocated to institute martial law at the US-Mexico border and "shoot people" if necessary. He also said the United States' support for Israel was the result of "Israeli lobby" money, and questioned US involvement in World War II.

This summer, a group of Black alumni wrote an open letter requesting the military college address its problems of systematic racism, and the school's superintendent announced an investigation into the group's allegations.

Retired Army Capt. Mary Tobin, a co-founder of West Point's Black alumni organization, Do More Together, spoke on behalf of the alumni this summer. In an interview with CNN regarding Macgregor's nomination, she said that appointments to West Point's advisory board are typically symbolic of "leaders of character" that can influence the service academy, particularly its policies on diversity and inclusion.

"And so now the question stands, what does this mean for the board of visitors at large at West Point? What does this mean for the Academy? You know, what is this communicating to the Muslim immigrants, African Americans, Hispanic cadets that are there now? What does this say to them [by appointing Macgregor]?"

"When you appoint leaders who clearly do not believe in and support racial equity and progress, then that communicates to every single cadet who's there that we are not changing, and we will tolerate racism and inequity. And considering that West Point is literally producing the world's leaders of integrity, we do not need that," added Tobin.

Democratic Sen. Tammy Duckworth, a congressional member of the board and Army National Guard veteran, blasted Macgregor's appointment in a statement to CNN.

"Racism and bigotry have no place at West Point or anywhere in our nation's military, and neither does someone like Douglas Macgregor," she said.

A West Point spokesman referred questions to questions on the appointment to the White House and Congress.

The White House declined to comment. CNN reached out for comment to Macgregor but received no response.

Macgregor spoke of the threat posed by an 'entitled' 'underclass' concentrated in 'large urban areas'

Since news of his appointment to West Point's advisory board, CNN's KFile has uncovered more examples of Macgregor's prejudicial and conspiratorial language.

In a 2013 radio appearance, he spoke of an "entitled" "underclass" of people that were concentrated in "large urban areas," and the threat they posed.

"They feel entitled," Macgregor said. "And when the food stamps stop, when the free services end, when the heating bills aren't paid and the heating doesn't come through in many of these large cities—Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, Washington, Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit, New Orleans, San Francisco, Los Angeles—this underclass that resides in these places, I think could become very violent."

Speaking on the Conservative Commandos radio show in April 2019, Macgregor spread a conspiracy that liberal billionaire George Soros was financing busing foreigners coming into the United States with the goal of destroying American culture.

"The largest problem of all is really a network of people like George Soros, who are committed Marxists, who see the destruction of the United States and of Western Europe as a means to an end of creating what they think will be this global society and the planet," said Macgregor.

He added, "Pretty soon, there won't be very many Americans left inside the United States if they can ship in enough of these foreigners. And of course, the big falsehood is 'well, they'll all become Americans. Just give them time.' We don't see much evidence for that right now. In fact, we see the opposite. We see hardcore points of foreign culture that is hostile to the United States, hostile to our values, hostile to our way of life forming across the country."

"And right now we know that people like Soros are financing buses and transportation to move people that come in this way into the United States, very rapidly all over the country, making it that much difficult for us to round them up and expel them," he added.

During a 2019 radio show appearance, Macgregor insisted that there were more White "slaves" in the late 1700s than African slaves in America, a specious myth that has spread on the Internet.

"In fact, very few people realize it, but in the late 1700s, there were more quote unquote slaves who were White--most of them, frankly, were Irish as you pointed out--indentured servants, than there were slaves who were African," said Macgregor.
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Builder
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 05:37 pm
President Trump arrives at Army-Navy game.

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BillW
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 05:49 pm
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Wisconsin Supreme Court Justices Tell Trump Lawyer His Election Suit ‘Smacks of Racism’


ADAM KLASFELDDec 12th, 2020, 4:33 pm

Outgoing President Donald Trump and his soon-to-be-former Vice President Mike Pence’s attempt to invalidate Wisconsin’s vote in only Milwaukee and Dane Counties appears to be racially motivated, two of the state’s Supreme Court justice remarked in a brutal Saturday hearing for the lame duck president.

Trump’s attorney, James Troupis, had barely begun to address the high court when Justice Jill Karofsky noted that the attack focused on the two counties with the state’s largest number of Black voters.

“This lawsuit, Mr. Troupis, smacks of racism,” she declared.

Her colleague, Justice Rebecca Dallet, echoed that sentiment by noting that Trump sued none of the state’s other 72 counties, focusing only on the “most non-white, urban” areas. Trump alleged improprieties with the Wisconsin Election Commission’s forms and claimed the forms do not properly comport with state statutes.

“You’re not asking us to throw out votes in any other counties that use that form,” Dallet noted.

Both justices, who have sided with the majority in throwing out three other post-election lawsuits, pointedly made clear that Trump had no issue with the same forms when they were in place during the 2016 election. Trump only objected to them after he lost.

After first conceding that was true, Troupis backpedaled and claimed not to know whether the form used without objection four years ago was the exact same form used this year.

“I have no information one way or the other,” Troupis said, a startling concession about one of the foundations of his legal action.

Justice Brian Hagedorn, a conservative who served as president of his school’s Federalist Society Chapter, authored opinions concurring with Karofsky and Dallet in previous cases. He said little on Saturday but briefly described Trump’s legal action as “odd.” He previously rejected the relief that Trump sought, saying it was a “real stunner.”

“Such a move would appear to be unprecedented in American history,” Hagedorn wrote in a Dec. 4 opinion. “One might expect that this solemn request would be paired with evidence of serious errors tied to a substantial and demonstrated set of illegal votes. Instead, the evidentiary support rests almost entirely on the unsworn expert report of a former campaign employee that offers statistical estimates based on call center samples and social media research.”

Indeed, Troupis cited Facebook pages in support of his argument in the state’s Supreme Court, leading to biting sarcasm from the bench.

“We’ll keep that in mind as a way to use evidence in the future,” Dallet said.

President-elect Joe Biden’s attorney John Devaney noted that Trump did not complain about Wisconsin’s rules governing elections until after he lost.

“To change the rules after the election… is fundamentally unfair,” Devaney said.

Justice Karofsky found Trump’s demands more reminiscent of a king than a president.

“In this country, we accept the will of the voters, and they spoke,” Karofsky said. “What is America? . . . It is self-government.”

Referring to Trump, Pence and Troupis’s lawsuit, Karofsky added: “That is so un-American!”

Though the roughly 90-minute hearing ended without a ruling, Wisconsin’s high court has thrown out three similar lawsuits with a 4-3 split. A federal judge in Wisconsin who was appointed by Trump dismissed another lawsuit with prejudice there. That decision fell in the middle of the state court’s hearing.

Karofsky recently won her own landslide election to the state’s highest court. Though Wisconsin justices are elected in nonpartisan elections, politicians of either party generally endorse them. Karofsky was supported by liberal politicians and defeated a conservative challenger by making gains in traditionally conservative portions of the state.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/wisconsin-supreme-court-justices-tell-trump-lawyer-his-election-suit-smacks-of-racism/

I wonder, how do you think the Justices will rule Monday? hmmmm mmm.....
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oralloy
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 05:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
SCOTUS supports the constitution. that's the only true part of your statement.

Wrong again. I support the Constitution too. Only progressives oppose the constitution.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 05:56 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
SCOTUS disagrees with you. They would violate state law if they did it. They would be criminals. They would be Republicans. Same thing.

Wrong again. Congress has full authority to reject the Biden slate of electors from Wisconsin, and the Supreme Court is just fine with that.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 05:57 pm

Quote:
Attorney: Michigan Vote Flip Happened Due to Computer Program, Not Human Error


Quote:
An attorney in a Michigan election case on Friday said that an infamous vote flip happened because of a computer program, not human error.

“Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson said it happened by human error. We discovered that’s not true, that’s a lie. It didn’t happen by human error. It happened by a computer program called Dominion Voting System[s],” Matthew DePerno said on Newsmax.

DePerno is representing plaintiff William Bailey in a lawsuit against Antrim County. Bailey noted that the county initially reported Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden winning the county by more than 2,000 votes over President Donald Trump, but later changed the results to show Trump received nearly 4,000 more votes than Biden.

Officials claimed what happened was due to a human error, after initially suggesting it was in part because of a software issue.

DePerno said that through the lawsuit, his team was able to get access to the Dominion Voting Systems program. They went earlier this month and retrieved 16 thumb drives and 16 data cards, as well as the forensic image of the actual tabulation machine in the Antrim County clerk office.

“My team has been running analysis through that forensic image since Sunday,” he said.

A judge last week ordered Antrim County to preserve and protect all records regarding vote tabulation, to not turn on the Dominion tabulator, and to not connect the tabulator to the Internet. He also ruled that the plaintiff could take forensic images from the tabulator and investigate the image, thumb drives, and software.

DePerno on Friday filed an emergency motion with the Antrim County Circuit Court, asking them to lift a protective order so that his team can release the results of the forensic examination to the public.

Benson’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment. DePerno didn’t respond to a request for more information. Antrim County Clerk Sheryl Guy declined to comment.

The office of Benson, a Democrat, released a statement earlier this week urging voters to “be wary of false claims.”

“On Sunday, individuals with no apparent technical expertise in election technology were permitted to gather images of Dominion voting equipment in Antrim County. While the information they gathered is subject to a court-issued protective order, the Michigan Department of State warns voters to be wary of the claims that the group may make in coming days. Members of the group have previously made false statements, shared fake documents, and made baseless claims about the election that have been widely debunked and rejected in multiple courts,” the office stated, without sharing any examples.[/u]


Someone is scared and it isn't De Perno. You see the attempt to cover their asses from Michigan Democrats with nothing to back what they claim. Why keep this information from the public? Obvious guilt is obvious guilt.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/attorney-michigan-vote-flip-happened-due-to-computer-program-no
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 06:07 pm
Quote:
Drew Hernandez
@DrewHLive
·
19h
DC: Multiple brawls break out between patriots and Antifa/BLM on the streets of DC tonight

Many BLM and Antifa have retreated behind police protection as a result

There are the Democratic brown shirts again. The good news is they are getting the **** kicked out of them. Very Happy
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 06:24 pm
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VIDEO: Enormous D.C. Crowds Chant, “USA, USA” in Support of President Trump

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1337842670232854532/ldHRjCut?format=jpg&name=small
Biden did not win this election. It is a lie, these people know it is.
https://www.toddstarnes.com/politics/video-enormous-d-c-crowds-chant-usa-usa-in-support-of-president-trump/
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blatham
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 06:31 pm
Considering how the right has become deeply incensed with how *their* judges have betrayed them, I think it would be entirely fair if, in the future, a Republican ever again uses the term "activist judges" that he or she be taken out back and shot.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 06:35 pm
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Video: ‘There’s An Accountability Tidal Wave Coming’—Ali Alexander, National Organizer of ‘Stop the Steal’


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Today, we sit down with Ali Alexander, the national organizer of “Stop the Steal,” to discuss how the movement came about and what it hopes to achieve. “Stop the Steal” will gather in Washington and also hold protests across U.S. state capitols on Saturday.

For the racists( Democrats) out there. This guy is a POC.
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