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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

All the evidence is admissible in court. So it is evidence, no matter what you say it is. I'm done. I see no point in continuing this conversation.

So why have 40 court cases thrown out for lack of evidence?

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@coldjoint,

Che? The article I read being the third and most interesting looking link in your link , talked about:
- examples of where voter fraud occured (which no one is aguing)
- means (the weakness in the system, rather than identifying an particular person with the skillset to hack a system)
- motive (essentially -" they really don't like us" motive)
- votes that were invalidated for example - every election has votes that get invalidated (for your system it appears late mail votes get invalidated),
- 550000 absentee ballots invalidated, beating the previous election (which should be expected)
- 160000 ballots were not delivered in Maryland (do they mean not delivered in time? Do they mean not delivered at all...which would favour Biden as his supporters showed a greater trend for mail in ballots)
- turnouts being too high in some areas (but not the link to where this was obtained, nor the % of votes, both of which are necessary to informed decisions)

etc, etc, etc

Obviously authors of this type of media posting think that:
- people will believe anything they say
- people won't want the original source
- people won't ask for the % of votes for any irregularity they mention (because they'll have already jumped to a conclusion of fraud)
- they can quote irrelevant material that always happens in elections, and present it as evidence to gullible people who will think it helps makes up a body of evidence (to me, this last severely weakens their credibility)

As I said, I keep getting disappointed. I really should have learnt by now.

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@neptuneblue,

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So why have 40 court cases thrown out for lack of evidence?

Funny, I thought about this as a reply, and thought it way too obvious (again him seeing just want he wants to see). But it just appears elegant.

I've little doubt the courts keep asking similar questions to me, and that's why they keep throwing out the cases - for lack of evidence.

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@vikorr,

She assumes the Supremes will automatically vote for theRump because he believes they will not consider truth and justice but just do it because they are Republican. What a sad, sad idjit!

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FACEPALM: Twitter Flags Trump Rally Wi-Fi Password as 'Disputed'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EogwTeLXUAM6Ab0?format=jpg&name=small

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This claim about election fraud is disputed

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Twitter, which seems to flag Trump posts like a reflex now, literally flagged this tweet with its usual disclaimer “This claim about election fraud is disputed.”

Disputed? It’s a Wi-Fi password. Are Jack Dorsey and the gatekeepers at Twitter so terrified about allegations of voter fraud they will literally flag a Wi-Fi password as disputed?

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/12/06/facepalm-twitter-flags-trump-rally-wifi-password-as-disputed-n1194293

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Georgia County Can’t Find Chain of Custody Records for Absentee Ballots Exist

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No chain of custody? Then its been tamperedwith. Uncertifiable.

Georgia’s Dekalb County does not know if it is in possession of the ballot transfer forms used to record the chain of custody for absentee ballots dropped into some 300 drop boxes around the state.

The Georgia Department of Voting, Registration and Election responded to an open records request for the transfer forms from Georgia Star by writing that “it has not yet been determined if responsive records to your request exist.”

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DeKalb County Doesn’t Know if Chain of Custody Records for Absentee Ballots Exist

By Election Wizard, on December 6, 2020

ATLANTA — In a letter sent to The Georgia Star on Friday, election officials in DeKalb County told the paper they did not know if ballots chain of custody forms existed for absentee ballots deposited in drop boxes and later transported to election offices to be counted.

Earlier this week, the Georgia Secretary of States’ office told Breitbart News that it did not know how many of the approximately 1.3 million absentee ballots cast in the 2020 general election were delivered by mail verses dropbox, and directed Breitbart to check with county officials.
The Georgia Star News filed an open records request on Tuesday requesting all “ballot transfer forms” from the Nov. 3 General Election in DeKalb County.

The county responded by saying it did not yet know if such records existed, and due to COVID, it could take up to 30 days to make final determination.

The Star noted DeKalb’s reply was odd in a couple ways. First, ballot custody forms are required to be used by election officials under Georgia’s law. So surely the DeKalb elections director should — at a minimum — be able to quickly say whether the required forms exist.

Second, the Star said DeKalb County is the only county that has failed to provide such forms upon request. The paper noted it has requested and promptly received ballot custody forms from several other Georgia counties.

The results from the 2020 election in DeKalb County show Donald Trump lost with 58,373 votes to Joe Biden’s 308,227 votes.

Throw those votes out and Trump wins. That is what the law says to do.
https://gellerreport.com/2020/12/georgia-county-cant-find-chain-of-custody-records-for-absentee-ballots-exist.html/

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@neptuneblue,

neptuneblue wrote:

coldjoint wrote:
All the evidence is admissible in court. So it is evidence, no matter what you say it is. I'm done. I see no point in continuing this conversation.

So why have 40 court cases thrown out for lack of evidence?

Because the courts are as corrupt as any other branch of government.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EokcM8DXEAAlz2C?format=jpg&name=medium

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Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD. Inventor of Email
@va_shiva
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5h
My Affidavit - filed in @LLinWood
& @SidneyPowell1
lawsuit 2 weeks ago - calculated ~22% vote transfer from @realDonaldTrump
to @JoeBiden
. Now, evidence from seized Dominion machines PROVES my analysis correct.

Trump voters “4/5ths” a person!

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@aaronjcarpenter
The big news you need to hear about today is Ware County, Georgia.

Dominion machines were seized. Equal number of Trump and Biden votes were forensically analyzed. However, the machines reported 87% for Trump and 113% for Biden. Should be 100% for both.

Stay tuned. This is big.

This should be proof of fraud in any court. This is the beginning Shocked

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https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/a-test-holy-cow-ware-county-ga-ran-same-number-of-trump-and-biden-voters-to-test-dominion-system-biden-came-out-ahead-by-26-what/

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RPL @[email protected]

ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE SOLVED. (It is worth noting that this was one County, and on one Tabulator alone.
Dominion Tabulators could have been configured with different algorithms in different Counties or States.) The point is there is now hard evidence of electronic manipulation of the Election.

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Firm That Conducted ‘Audit’ of Georgia Voting Machines Has Long History With Dominion

Things are really falling apart. That audit was useless and now we know it.

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The firm hired by Georgia’s secretary of state to conduct an “audit” of Dominion Voting Systems technology used during the 2020 elections is the same one that previously certified the Dominion systems and also approved a last-minute system-wide software change just weeks before the election.

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger failed to disclose that the company, Pro V&V, had a preexisting relationship with Dominion that dated back years, in his Nov. 17 statement announcing the results of the audit.

Raffensperger also failed to disclose that Dominion had used technical conclusions from Pro V&V in a pre-election Georgia lawsuit that questioned the reliability of Dominion’s systems during a last-minute software fix before the Nov. 3 election. The testing from Pro V&V had been characterized as “superficial” and “cursory testing” by an expert cited in court documents.

In the widely quoted statement, Raffensperger said that the audit of Dominion machines was complete, there was “no sign of foul play,” and that “Pro V&V found no evidence” of tampering with the machines:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/firm-that-conducted-audit-of-georgia-voting-machines-has-long-history-with-dominion_3604466.html

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@coldjoint,

Now see - this would be reason for a re-election....

...as long as the news is accurate and not fraudulent. I say that because you must understand that the Nazis were the inventors of propoganda - ie. 'if you say a lie enough times it becomes the truth'.

This particular report has popped on just a few sites so far...and yet I can't find the source testing.

By now you should realise you need to look for the source, and provide it, in order to not fall for fraudulent reporting.

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@vikorr,

vikorr wrote:

Now see - this would be reason for a re-election....

...as long as the news is accurate and not fraudulent. I say that because you must understand that the Nazis were the inventors of 'if you say a lie enough times it becomes the truth'.

This particular report has popped on just a few sites so far...and yet I can't find the source testing.

Why don't you do your own source test? And that stuff about Adolf is what the media does.

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By now you should realise you need to look for the source, and provide it, in order to not fall for fraudulent reporting.

Like the Russian hoax?

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@coldjoint,

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Why don't you do your own source test?

I am not the one making the accusations. Burden of proof always falls to the accuser. When they claim evidence, they need to show the source (otherwise it could simply be made up)

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Like the Russian hoax?

Sure, like the Russian hoax. You didn't like that and asked where is the evidence, and how real is it. Don't be a hypocrite and not ask it in the other direction.

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@neptuneblue,

neptuneblue wrote:

coldjoint wrote:
All the evidence is admissible in court. So it is evidence, no matter what you say it is. I'm done. I see no point in continuing this conversation.

So why have 40 court cases thrown out for lack of evidence?

After last night - 44!

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U.S. Supreme Court moves up deadline in congressman’s bid to upend Pa. election results

by Jeremy Roebuck, Posted: December 6, 2020- 5:19 PM

The U.S. Supreme Court moved up a key deadline Sunday for Pennsylvania officials to respond to a last-minute bid by one of Trump’s top boosters in Congress to decertify the state’s elections results.

Previously, Associate Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., who oversees emergency matters arising out of Pennsylvania for the court,had given state election administrators until Wednesday to file their response to the appeal from U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly (R., Butler), who has argued that Pennsylvania’s vote-by-mail law is unconstitutional and that every mail ballot cast in the state should be thrown out.

But on Sunday, Alito moved the schedule in Kelly’s case up by a day, ordering state officials to respond by 9 a.m. Tuesday instead.

The difference of just a day is significant given that the previous deadline of Wednesday fell one day after what is known as the “safe harbor date,” the federal cutoff date for states to resolve any remaining election disputes and lock in their slate of electors for the Dec. 14 Electoral College vote.

Many legal observers read Alito’s initial selection of Dec. 9 as a sign that the court had no intention of acting on the Kelly’s case in a way that would interfere with Pennsylvania awarding its 20 electoral votes to President-elect Joe Biden.

Still, experts said it remains unlikely that the wider Supreme Court will be persuaded to take up Kelly’s appeal, given that the remedy it seeks — disenfranchising millions of Pennsylvania voters — is so drastic.

“I would not read too much into this,” said Richard L. Hasen, an election law professor at the University of California-Irvine, in a post on his blog Sunday. “It shows more respect to the petitioners [Kelly], and does not make it look like the court is simply running out the clock on the petition. I still think the chances the court grants any relief on this particular petition are virtually zero.”[/b]

Kelly has argued that Pennsylvania lawmakers improperly expanded voting by mail in the state last year with a vote in the state legislature instead of submitting the change through the constitutional amendment process, which would have required a statewide ballot referendum among other procedural steps.

But in throwing out his case Nov. 28, Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court said Kelly had waited far too long to file his legal challenge and noted it had only come after his favored candidate, Trump, had lost the election.

The court also balked at his request to disqualify every ballot cast by mail, with one justice calling it “a transparent and untimely effort to subvert the will of Pennsylvania voters” in a state Biden won by some 81,000 votes.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pennsylvania-election-lawsuits-mike-kelly-scotus-alito-trump-biden-20201206.html

Can you say, "45 CASES LOST!"?

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@BillW,

BillW wrote:

neptuneblue wrote:

coldjoint wrote:
All the evidence is admissible in court. So it is evidence, no matter what you say it is. I'm done. I see no point in continuing this conversation.

So why have 40 court cases thrown out for lack of evidence?

After last night - 44!

They have found out Dominion machines stole the election. Trump won't need a another case.

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@coldjoint,

How can you know they aren't fraudulently reporting to you?

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@vikorr,

vikorr wrote:

How can you know they aren't fraudulently reporting to you?

I'm going to risk it.

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@coldjoint,

Because it is what you want to see.

Unbiased people who know how media can mislead actually ask for verification of stories. You, who complain about media misleading people.... hypocritically won't seek to verify the stories your chosen media feeds you.

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@vikorr,

On the up side - a story like this is both so simple, and so big that if it is not filed in court inside a day....you know you've been fraudulently reported to.

The proof is easy to demonstrate physically to a court:
- machine with matching serial number, certified by the counting office
- faraday sealed (if it has wireless access)
- 1000 votes marked for each of two candidates
- output

The outcome, if shown to be true, would then spread as court cases in any state with the same counting machines

So you will know within a day, 2 at most, if you are reading fake news.

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