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coldjoint
 
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Sat 5 Dec, 2020 11:12 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

Trump could use some jail time. We'll work on that. We care about the Rule of Law where nobody is above it, not even a corrupt out-of-a-job President.

Obama and the corrupt bastards around him are the ones that are above the law. Projection and stupidity even bringing up rule of law.
neptuneblue
 
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Sat 5 Dec, 2020 11:22 pm
@coldjoint,
Except four years later....

Your pipe dream has not materialized. That's your stupidity.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 5 Dec, 2020 11:30 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

Except four years later....

Your pipe dream has not materialized. That's your stupidity.

So they are above the law and you do not care that they are. Very un-American.

It is not my stupidity it is the corruption in our government.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 5 Dec, 2020 11:50 pm
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64 GOP Pennsylvania lawmakers send letter urging Congress to block electoral votes from going to Biden

Yes.
Quote:
The letter, signed by 64 Republican legislators and sent to Pennsylvanian members of Congress on Friday, outlined several ways in which they believe Gov. Tom Wolf and others “undermined” election safeguards that give the public confidence in the results.

“The Pennsylvania Election Code requires that all mail-in ballots be received by 8 p.m. on Election Day; Governor Wolf ordered that this statutory deadline be waived in some counties during the Primary Election, then sought its waiver statewide for the General Election,” read the letter as it mentioned other grievances, such as issues with inspecting ballots, counting defective ballots, and poll watching.

“For these reasons, we the undersigned members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly urge you to object, and vote to sustain such objection, to the Electoral College votes received from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania during the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021,” it concluded.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/64-gop-pennsylvania-lawmakers-send-letter-urging-congress-to-block-electoral-votes-from-going-to-biden
coldjoint
 
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Sat 5 Dec, 2020 11:52 pm
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 5 Dec, 2020 11:56 pm
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MontereyJack
 
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Sat 5 Dec, 2020 11:58 pm
@coldjoint,
pure fantasy again. Obama was far more respectfuol of the law than trump has ever been. his tenure is looked on far more favorably around ther weorld and at home than trump will ever be. He was constructive, not destructive, like trump. DACA, obamacare, the reconstruction of the economy after the gop Great Recession and worldwide economic meltdown., conservatives hated him because he was black, no matter what lame excuses they tried to pretend otherwise. History will look far more kindly on obama than it already does on trmp before he ever leaves office in repudiation by the country.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 5 Dec, 2020 11:58 pm
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MontereyJack
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 12:02 am
@coldjoint,
the courts are not looking kindly on these republican efforts to disenfranchise huge numbers of voters. they will not look kindly on this attempt either. Even trump-appointed judges are unanimously rejecting these kinds of cases. If they try to pressure legislators it will be challenged and tossed out.
farmerman
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 12:42 am
@MontereyJack,
and there is a federal law that requires the electors be chosen according to the popular vote. Thats how Trump won in 2016 and its how Biden is our new president elect/

coldjoint
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 12:49 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

and there is a federal law that requires the electors be chosen according to the popular vote. Thats how Trump won in 2016 and its how Biden is our new president elect/



The state legislature has the plenary right when it comes to electors. Federal law does not overrule the Constitution, you must be worried.

And Biden is not the president elect yet. He is just a braindead citizen.
oristarA
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 12:50 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

So now it is clear that it was simply part of a normal counting process. But the part was not perfect due to some misunderstandings.

(1) There was a monitor on the scene, but who was from the Secretary of State's Office, not one of the Republican monitors.

(2) The Republican monitors left...



Does anyone know whether this monitor from the Secretary of State's Office is a Republican or a Democratic? If being a Republican, then there is almost no room left to worry about. See what Mr. Trump tweeted today:

Quote:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump·13h
I will easily & quickly win Georgia if Governor @BrianKempGA or the Secretary of State permit a simple signature verification. Has not been done and will show large scale discrepancies. Why are these two “Republicans” saying no? If we win Georgia, everything else falls in place!


The Secretary of State's Office is none other than a Republican! Who just doesn't agree with Mr. Trump.
BillW
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 12:54 am
@farmerman,
In most states farmerman, and I do believe all the states we are looking at. Big point here, it is state law and not under the domain of SCOTUS!

theRump believes if he can get to SCOTUS he has enough votes there that will go for him regardless of evidence and circumstance that he will win. I don't believe that will hold and this particular situation is state law, not under SCOTUS domain.
coldjoint
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 12:54 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

oristarA wrote:

So now it is clear that it was simply part of a normal counting process. But the part was not perfect due to some misunderstandings.

(1) There was a monitor on the scene, but who was from the Secretary of State's Office, not one of the Republican monitors.

(2) The Republican monitors left...



Does anyone know whether this monitor from the Secretary of State's Office is a Republican or a Democratic? If being a Republican, then there is almost no room left to worry about. See what Mr. Trump tweeted today:

Quote:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump·13h
I will easily & quickly win Georgia if Governor @BrianKempGA or the Secretary of State permit a simple signature verification. Has not been done and will show large scale discrepancies. Why are these two “Republicans” saying no? If we win Georgia, everything else falls in place!


The Secretary of State's Office is none other than a Republican! Who just doesn't agree with Mr. Trump.

Is that supposed to be news? RINOs are everywhere. He is one of them. Tell us something we don't know.
coldjoint
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 12:57 am
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

In most states farmerman, and I do believe all the states we are looking at. Big point here, it is state law and not under the domain of SCOTUS!

theRump believes if he can get to SCOTUS he has enough votes there that will go for him regardless of evidence and circumstance that he will win. I don't believe that will hold and this particular situation is state law, not under SCOTUS domain.

The Constitution is the law. It is the domain. State law can not violate or supersede the Constitution.
oristarA
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 01:13 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Is that supposed to be news? RINOs are everywhere. He is one of them. Tell us something we don't know.


By the same token, the two would denounce Mr.Trump as a RINO.

So you were clear that a Republican monitor was there? Still, you cried out that this normal countng process was fraud?
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MontereyJack
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 01:17 am
@coldjoint,
the states set election law, and state courts repeatedly say the laws governing this election were valid, and thagt does not in any way violate the constitution. SCOYUS is going to stay out of it.
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oristarA
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 01:19 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:


The Constitution is the law. It is the domain. State law can not violate or supersede the Constitution.


How do you interpret the Constitution? Through a biblical lens like Jenna Ellis did?
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MontereyJack
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 01:21 am
@coldjoint,
state law in 48 states mandates that that state's electors must vote for the winner of the popular vote in that state, and that in no way violates the constiution. trump does not have a legal leg to stand on.And it looks lke CA puts biden over the top in electors (yhe cite also bears out my contention about how electors must vote for winner of the pop vote.
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BillW
 
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Sun 6 Dec, 2020 01:29 am
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1: The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators
 

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