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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Wed 2 Dec, 2020 06:21 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

The guy who caused CNN to go up for sale.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 2 Dec, 2020 06:28 pm
Quote:
GOP Rep. Mo Brooks to challenge certification of electoral college votes

That is if they favor Biden. Good to know.
Quote:
GOP congressman Mo Brooks said he will challenge the electoral college votes when Congress plans to certify the results on January 6. On Wednesday, the Alabama lawmaker told reporters he will likely challenge the certification process even if no one else joins him.

In order to force Congress to bring the matter to a vote, one senator and one House representative must challenge the electorate. So far, it’s not clear if any senators plan to contest the electoral college results.

This comes just weeks after Brooks spoke on the House floor, where he highlighted that Congress certifies the election.

“Earlier I cited constitutional and federal law mandating that Congress, not the Supreme Court, determines whether to accept or reject electoral college votes,” he stated. “And Congress, not the Supreme Court, has the final verdict on presidential elections.”

https://www.oann.com/gop-rep-mo-brooks-to-challenge-certification-of-electoral-college-votes/
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BillW
 
  1  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 06:59 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Pro-Coup Trumpist Lawyer Lin Wood Seems to be Legit Bonkers[/url]

So are beaucoupe of most theRump supporters, including a lot on these threads. Kinda makes the most sense of all things Rumpty😶
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 07:21 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

blatham wrote:

Pro-Coup Trumpist Lawyer Lin Wood Seems to be Legit Bonkers[/url]

So are beaucoupe of most theRump supporters, including a lot on these threads. Kinda makes the most sense of all things Rumpty😶

I don't have to ignore your gossip. That is all that post is besides mean spirited.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 08:23 pm
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Wisconsin Supreme Court ordered Governor to respond to Trump lawsuit re: 220,000 illegal ballots that must be thrown out, giving state to Trump…

Hope the governor puts a bow on it.
https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/supremecourt-655x1024.jpg
https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/wisconsin-supreme-court-ordered-governor-to-respond-to-trump-lawsuit-re-220000-illegal-ballots-that-must-be-thrown-out-giving-state-to-trump/
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BillW
 
  1  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 08:28 pm
Interesting new detail just heard on TV. Ivanka Trump was deposed yesterday in a DC Court (not Federal) for misuse of funds in the 2017 Presidential Inauguration Ceremony. If one remembers, there was considerable questionable activity surrounding the donation of monies and usage of monies at those ceremonies. Melanie has also been subpoena in the same court in the very near future. Trump can't Pardon this court!
Borat Sister
 
  2  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 08:34 pm
@BillW,
I’m surprised re Melania. I’d not have thought she actually had a lot of say
Borat Sister
 
  2  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 08:36 pm
@Borat Sister,
A friend just tweeted that he can’t imagine Trump fully getting out of politics because political fundraising is an easy way to get hold of money he can siphon off....like the millions he has raised to challenge the election in court

Any thoughts?
BillW
 
  1  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 08:45 pm
@Borat Sister,
1. He's grifting the he'll out of his donors right now to "defend this election.
2. He has announced to associates he will announce he will again in 2024 during the January 20th Inauguration. Therefore, grifting starts again at that point.
3. He needs money, bad. Politics is his new racket!
4. As far as Melanie, it is as much what she sees as to what she does.
Borat Sister
 
  2  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 08:50 pm
@BillW,
So you agree he’s discovered politics as a way to just keep making money?

If he’s declared bankrupt can he still stand, or do you think he can keep enough money coming in from his supporters to stave off bankruptcy?
BillW
 
  1  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 09:13 pm
@Borat Sister,
https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/elections/presidential-election-process/requirements-for-the-president-of-the-united-states/
Quote:
Legal requirements for presidential candidates have remained the same since the year Washington accepted the presidency. As directed by the Constitution, a presidential candidate must be a natural born citizen of the United States, a resident for 14 years, and 35 years of age or older. These requirements do not prohibit women or minority candidates from running.

and,

A presidential candidate must establish eligibility by showing broad-based public support. He or she must raise more than $5,000 in each of at least 20 states (that is, over $100,000).

No requirement he has to have money - he must raise money!

And, he loves to have money given to him, theRump is an A-1 grifter. Don't let him know your going to buy a house. He will run out and buy it first and then sell it to you for more, A lot more!
Borat Sister
 
  2  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 09:27 pm
@BillW,
But I asked if undischarged bankruptcy disqualified you, not if you had to have money. Of course you have to be rich to run for president in the US
BillW
 
  1  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 09:32 pm
@Borat Sister,
And, I told you:
Quote:
Legal requirements for presidential candidates have remained the same since the year Washington accepted the presidency.

Then divulged the 3 requirements. The President could be a murder, rapists, kidnapper and unreformed grifter and still be President! Actually, there is good chance he may be all 4, he is known to be three of them but never charged and convicted.

The founders trusted that the President would be an honorable man. They never foresaw someone like theRump! BTW, I do believe that US Grant may have been bankrupt when he made Presidency, he was bankrupt after!

BTW, Thanks for the questions!
Borat Sister
 
  2  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 09:40 pm
@BillW,
Good lord
BillW
 
  1  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 09:43 pm
@Borat Sister,
I added some to my answer.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 2 Dec, 2020 10:03 pm
Quote:
Media Elites, Not Trump Supporters, Are Disconnected From Reality

I guess that means the people that listen to them are out of touch with reality. It shows.

Quote:

With the end of Donald Trump’s presidency fast approaching, we’ve seen a surge of columns and posts asserting that Republicans and Trump supporters have lost touch with reality. After four years of marinating in “falsehoods” and “disinformation”—a term that really just means “information I don’t like”—Trump’s backers are all turned around, we’re told. They believe much that isn’t so.

David Brooks of The New York Times explains that these poor saps, most of whom, he says, are uneducated, uncredentialed people who don’t live in prosperous cities, have retreated to conspiracy theories to explain their misfortune and unhappiness. “People in this precarious state are going to demand stories that will both explain their distrust back to them and also enclose them within a safe community of believers,” he writes. Trump, QAnon, and Alex Jones “rose up to give them those stories and provide that community.”

Over at The New Yorker, editor David Remnick ponders the grave costs of Trump’s “assault on the press and the truth,” asking how many COVID-19 victims “died because they chose to believe the President’s dismissive accounts of the disease rather than what public-health officials were telling the press? Half of Republican voters believe Trump’s charge that the 2020 election was ‘rigged.’ What will be the lasting effects on American democracy of that disinformation campaign?”

These are just representative samples, but across the mainstream commentariat the gist is all the same: if you support Trump, you’re likely a poor person who believes conspiracy theories and is dangerously disconnected from reality, partly because you resent successful people like Messrs. Brooks and Remnick. You live in a fantasyland because it assuages your feelings of inferiority, which are mostly justified. You’re paranoid because you’re powerless, and the alternate reality you’ve constructed for yourself gives you a sense of power and agency in a confusing, unsettled world.

But here’s the thing. Everything these media elites say about Trump supporters can more properly be said about media elites themselves. Who really has been living in a fantasyland these last four years? Is it the ordinary Americans—including a lot of educated, white-collar professionals—who voted for a president they felt would shake up the sclerotic status quo in Washington, or a press corps that perpetuated an actual conspiracy about Trump-Russia collusion for years?

It was Remnick’s New Yorker, after all, that published a serious-seeming essay in September 2018 that claimed Facebook had been weaponized by “Russian agents who wanted to sow political chaos and help Trump win” in the 2016 election—an effort, the author said, that had an “astonishing impact.” Never mind the preposterousness of claiming that a couple hundred thousand dollars in Facebook advertising had an “astonishing impact” on the outcome of the 2016 election, there has never been a shred of evidence that “Russian interference” changed or altered even a single vote in 2016.

A New Yorker staff writer named Evan Osnos wrote that article. Osnos won the National Book Award in 2014 and in 2015 was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize. He’s won many other prizes and worked all over the world, and, just before the election, published a flattering book about former Vice President Joe Biden. Osnos is the sort of fellow Brooks has in mind when he talks about “professional members” of the “epistemic regime”—the people who know what’s real and tell us so, a job for which they are richly rewarded.

What else has this supposedly enlightened member of the epistemic elite told us? In June, he compared Trump’s White House, which had a temporary fence around it after Black Lives Matter protests turned into riots, to the Zhongnanhai, the seat of China’s communist government in Beijing, where “people are more accustomed than Americans are to the notion of leaders who live and work secluded from the public.”

Earlier that month, Osnos dashed off a post that described—falsely, as it turned out—protests in Lafayette Square on June 1 as “peaceful.” We all know, even if the media refused to report it, that the protesters were not at all peaceful, and in fact were hurling “bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids” at police.

This isn’t really about Osnos, his hackery notwithstanding, but about his professional class—a class that fervently believes much that isn’t so. Despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, members of Osnos’ class still believe that Trump got substantial help from Russia in 2016. They believe, still, that Trump is a dangerous authoritarian who might just destroy the republic. They believe, still, that the only reason tens of millions of Americans would support Trump is that they are racists or rubes, or both.

Osnos and Remnick and the rest of our media elites believe these things for the same reason Brooks thinks Trump supporters are conspiracy theory-addled suckers: they are becoming irrelevant, they are losing power and influence, their status as members of the epistemic regime is uncertain—indeed, their entire regime seems to be collapsing, and they know it.

It’s not too much to say, quoting Brooks, that “people in this precarious state are going to demand stories that will both explain their distrust back to them and also enclose them within a safe community of believers.”

So we will continue to see stories and commentary from the epistemic regime that soothe men like Brooks, Remnick, and Osnos, assuring them all is well, that credulous, mendacious Trump supporters have been put in their place, and that after a harrowing four years, all is once again as it should be.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/02/media-elites-not-trump-supporters-are-disconnected-from-reality/
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crackedhead
 
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Wed 2 Dec, 2020 10:37 pm
Here's some real facts about Trump supporters and Trump. Facts that don't include bias links.

Trump supporters love drama
Donald Trump loves drama
Trump supporters love believing in their God given privilege
Donald Trump was born in real life privilege

When you add the math up you come out to Donald Trump has the real life privilege that Trump supporters wish they had. Which creates the drama queens they both are. Which is why Trump lost the election fair and square. Because most people aren't privileged in life and can't stand drama queens.

coldjoint
 
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Wed 2 Dec, 2020 11:00 pm
@crackedhead,
Quote:
When you add the math up you come out to Donald Trump has the real life privilege that Trump supporters wish they had. Which creates the drama queens they both are

Did Lucy tell you that after she was done analyzing Charlie Brown? It is not even worth a nickel.
Quote:
When you add the math up

You get fraud.
crackedhead
 
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Wed 2 Dec, 2020 11:13 pm
@coldjoint,
Obviously it is coldjoint. Your Lucy and Charlie Brown metaphor has always been free of charge. Trump supporters on the other hand not so much I'm thinking. As a Trump supporter, I'm pretty sure you've given more nickels to Trump than I've ever given to Charlie Brown. Yeah...the real world coldjoint. Get on the same page for once.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 2 Dec, 2020 11:15 pm
Quote:
BREAKING: Sidney Powell files NEW lawsuit in Arizona alleging 412k illegal ballots

Quote:
Here’s what Hamilton highlighted in the filing:

20. Except for the estimate of illegal out-of-state votes, each of these experts has identified distinct sources of illegal votes in sufficient numbers (i.e., greater than Biden’s purported margin of 10,457 votes), not only to affect, but to change the result of the 2020 General Election in Arizona. Taken together, the irregularities, anomalies and physical and statistical impossibilities, account for at least 412,494 illegal ballots that were counted in Arizona. This provides the Court with sufficient grounds to set aside the results of the 2020 General Election and provide the other declaratory and injunctive relief requested herein.

145. For these reasons, Plaintiffs ask this Court to enter a judgment in their favor and provide the following emergency relief:

1. An order directing Governor Ducey and Secretary Hobbs to de-certify the election results;

2. An order enjoining Governor Ducey from transmitting the currently certified election results the Electoral College;

3. An immediate emergency order to seize and impound all servers, software, voting machines, tabulators, printers, portable media, logs…

9. A permanent injunction prohibiting the Governor and Secretary of State from transmitting the currently certified results to the Electoral College based on the overwhelming evidence of election tampering;

https://therightscoop.com/breaking-sidney-powell-files-new-lawsuit-in-arizona-alleging-412k-illegal-ballots/
 

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