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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
MontereyJack
 
  5  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 03:45 am
@oralloy,
You are living in an extreme right wing loonyland. Dems do not cheat, Trump sure as **** has been trying to cheat by
getting repub legislators to cheat to tilt the e.c. in his favor. biden won fairly, republican election officials attest to that, as well as dems. it's bipartisan. trump is spinning his usual totally factfree conspiracy theories. The american people have spoken,
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 03:48 am
@MontereyJack,
Democrats have a long history of cheating. Remember Al Gore in 2000?

But even if it were actually true that Mr. Biden didn't cheat, so what? He's still an illegitimate president who needs to be opposed and undermined by the American people.

Either way, if he cheated or not, it's time for the American people to oppose and undermine him.

I think Mr. Trump should secretly give the Air Force control over the ICBMs so they can disregard Mr. Biden and fight a nuclear war on their own if they want to. There is no reason for anyone to trust that Mr. Biden will do the right thing in a nuclear war.
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 05:28 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Study finds 84% fewer hospitalizations for patients treated with controversial drug hydroxychloroquine


Yeah, sure. Just about every online article about this "study" is from the right-wing press.

Quote:
Unfortunately, there is a network of websites and news media willing to amplify this disinformation, and social media further facilitates its spread. The HCQTrial.com website is obvious pseudoscience to anyone who has any expertise in epidemiology and/or clinical trials, but unfortunately it has spread far and wide faster than experts could debunk its disinformation. Such is the age we are living in.

sciencebasedmedicine

“Peer reviewed and published” is the defense of a charlatan.

Quote:
I hoped I would never have to write about that ridiculous quack Vovka Zelenko. But three days ago, he published his “clinical trial” about the COVID-19 curing power of hydroxychloroquine in a peer-reviewed journal. An Elsevier journal, issued by the International Society for Microbial Chemotherapy (ISAC), whose chief editor is a human sockpuppet of the chloroquine guru Didier Raoult. The paper appeared in a special collection edited by Raoult plus the society’s past president, they handled the “peer review”. While the society’s current president denounces me as some kind of enemy of science and declares to be proud to not have succumbed to pressure to retract Raoult’s own paper which in March 2020 unleashed the chloroquine disaster worldwide and catapulted Zelenko into Trump’s inner circle. While both coauthors of Zelenko’s paper are Germans, one of them is affiliated with the University Clinic of Düsseldorf where I did PhD.

First of all, the Editor-in-Chief of the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents (which is published by the International Society for Microbial Chemotherapy (ISAC) and Elsevier), is Raoult’s subordinate at the IHU Marseille and ISAC board member, Jean-Marc Rolain. And Raoult himself was one of the two handling editors of that paper. The other editor was Po-Ren Hsueh, professor at the National Taiwan University and previous ISAC President and current board member of the society. Hsueh declared in April 2020 that HCQ and azithromycine have shown “excellent clinical efficacy on Chinese COVID-19 patients“. The collection “COVID-19 Therapeutic and Prevention“, in which Zelenko’s paper appeared, is full of studies endorsing HCQ and azithromycin.

forbetterscience
hightor
 
  3  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 05:46 am
Trump ‘haemorrhaging’ Twitter followers in wake of election defeat

President has lost followers every day this week, figures show

Quote:
President Donald Trump is reportedly haemorrhaging Twitter followers in the wake of his election defeat to incoming president Joe Biden.

Mr Trump's days in the White House are numbered and it appears thousands of users on the social media site are not hanging around to read about his baseless claims of voter fraud.

The outgoing commander-in-chief's fan base has taken a hit every day this week and some 46,000 accounts have unfollowed him since 22 November.

Those figures are according to the social media analytics site Social Blade and reviewed by Newsweek.

Some 10,000 Twitter accounts unsubscribed from Mr Trump's feed on 25 November alone, Newsweek reported.

Meanwhile, president-elect Biden has seen his Twitter following surge since major news networks declared him the election winner on 7 November.

He picked up some 130,000 followers on 25 November, according to the Social Blade figures.

Mr Biden was on 19.9 million followers as of Thursday evening, still well behind Mr Trump on 88.8 million.

Some analysts believe Mr Trump's decrease in followers could be due a Twitter clear out of bots.

But one man behind a social media campaign calling on people to desert the president has a different theory.

Andrew Lazar, who is spearheading the UnfollowThePres project, told Newsweek he wants to take away the president's "favourite toy".

He said: "By January, he will no longer be relevant to our national conversation. His Twitter account, however, still gives him enormous influence."

Mr Lazar added: "He's using that influence to continue to divide our country. I mean, the guy can't concede a loss and wants to broadcast false fraud claims to his adherents. It's dangerous."

independent
hightor
 
  5  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 05:49 am
‘Mini desk. Tiny hands. Small soul’: Trump mocked for giving speech at little table

#DiaperDon trends on Twitter after outgoing president’s furniture steals limelight

Quote:
For a US president obsessed by size – his hands, his wealth, his crowds – Donald Trump made something of a bold U-turn on Thursday night by addressing the country from a desk seemingly designed for a leprechaun.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/dea0a1b899b180cbc45571ee7864ecf1dd0112f3/0_232_3500_2101/master/3500.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=02be67f394b8e1ba82f933b57ddc9b9d

Trump said on Thursday he would leave the White House if the electoral college votes for the Democratic president-elect, Joe Biden – the closest he has come to admitting defeat – but his furniture stole the limelight.

While he harangued reporters and repeated unfounded allegations of electoral fraud, the internet zeroed in on his unusually small desk. Some called it symbolic of Trump’s diminished stature, some wondered if it was photoshopped (it wasn’t), most just laughed.

The actor Mark Hamill tweeted: “Maybe if you behave yourself, stop lying to undermine a fair election & start thinking of what’s good for the country instead of whining about how unfairly you are treated, you’ll be invited to sit at the big boy’s table.”

The hashtag #DiaperDon swiftly trended on Twitter, with people mocking the president as an infant banished to the children’s table for Thanksgiving.

May this be how we remember the Trump presidency: a baby at his tiny little desk throwing a tantrum pic.twitter.com/T26DjF1fL4
— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) November 27, 2020

“Thought this pic was photoshopped, but nope, just hilariously symbolic! Mini desk. Tiny hands. Infinitesimally small soul,” tweeted Adam Lasnik.

I still can’t quite believe this happened today.
Whoever suggested that desk … thank you.#tinydesk #TinyDeskDonald https://t.co/9sQ6Ko1bMA pic.twitter.com/xKuU0DVjUD
— Noah Maher (@noahsparc) November 27, 2020

Trump later sent a blizzard of tweets accusing the media of misreporting his comments and Twitter of making up “negative stuff” for its trending section.

guardian
Rebelofnj
 
  4  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 06:42 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
But even if it were actually true that Mr. Biden didn't cheat, so what? He's still an illegitimate president who needs to be opposed and undermined by the American people.


So if it is proven once and for all that Biden didn't cheat, then what would make him still illegitimate?

Quote:
I think Mr. Trump should secretly give the Air Force control over the ICBMs so they can disregard Mr. Biden and fight a nuclear war on their own if they want to. There is no reason for anyone to trust that Mr. Biden will do the right thing in a nuclear war.


We discussed that before. When personal of The Strategic Air Command reset the PAL codes to all zeroes during the Cold War, that went against the orders of the Department of Defense and the President, and breaking the chain of command.

Plus, it is very likely that Biden would nominate new leaders for the US Air Force and the Defense Department (replacing Air Force Secretary Barrett and Defense Secretary Miller, among others), so any secret order by Trump would be moot.
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 07:05 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
They are uninformed or lying. Evidence of 700,000 unaccounted, magical votes in PA has emerged. PA own numbers show it. 700,000 more mail in ballots returned than were sent out. A fact that will not change.


So, would you still consider Newsmax as a reliable source, even though they said Biden won the election and that there is no evidence of widespread fraud?

That article was published after the Newsmax CEO also said there is no evidence, so it is starting to look like Trump actually did lose the election with no widespread fraud taking place. One would think Trump's legal team would allow Newsmax to see some of the evidence they claimed to have, in order to have them report it and gain public support.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 07:21 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
So if it is proven once and for all that Biden didn't cheat, then what would make him still illegitimate?

The fact that the left refused to accept Mr. Trump's legitimacy justifies doing the same now to Mr. Biden.

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.


Rebelofnj wrote:
We discussed that before. When personal of The Strategic Air Command reset the PAL codes to all zeroes during the Cold War, that went against the orders of the Department of Defense and the President, and breaking the chain of command.

So what?


Rebelofnj wrote:
Plus, it is very likely that Biden would nominate new leaders for the US Air Force and the Defense Department (replacing Air Force Secretary Barrett and Defense Secretary Miller, among others), so any secret order by Trump would be moot.

Nominating new leaders does not mean the Air Force cannot secretly control the ICBMs.

Presidents nominated new military leaders all throughout the Cold War. The Air Force still retained secret control over the ICBMs.
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 07:35 am
@oralloy,
Al Gore won the kpopular vote. He would have won the electoral vote too, except the repubs cheated. remember the repub operatives who staged the phony sit in/shutdown of the legitimate miami-dade recount. Biden is in no way illegitimate. That is once again only your fantasy.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 07:42 am
@MontereyJack,
Wrong again. It was Al Gore who tried to cheat. There was nothing legitimate about the Miami recount. And nothing phony about the sit in/shutdown that stopped that illegitimate recount.

Mr. Biden is not even remotely legitimate. It is time for the American people to oppose and undermine him at every turn.
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 07:47 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
It is time for the American people to oppose and undermine him at every turn.


Does this mean you are willing to be a public leader (using your genius mind for once) and rallying the disenfranchised, staging protests and such?

Or are you just going to leave all that (the leadership and the protests) to other people, and not do anything that involves physical activity (also known as slacktivism)?
snood
 
  5  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 07:48 am
@MontereyJack,
Yeah the “Brook Brothers Riot”. A uniquely Republican, particularly putrid scheme that banked on the fact that white men in business attire wouldn’t be treated by law enforcement as the dirtbag thugs they were that should have been arrested for interfering in and preventing the lawful counting of votes.

If they had any self awareness or shame, Republicans would never accuse anyone else of corruption.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 07:52 am
@snood,
Don't be silly. There was nothing lawful about Al Gore's attempts to cheat. And there was nothing wrong with people stepping in and preventing Al Gore from cheating.

And there is nothing wrong with Republicans pointing out that the Democratic Party is corrupt.
oralloy
 
  0  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 07:56 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
Does this mean you are willing to be a public leader (using your genius mind for once) and rallying the disenfranchised, staging protests and such?
Or are you just going to leave all that (the leadership and the protests) to other people, and not do anything that involves physical activity (also known as slacktivism)?

I haven't really thought about it. I'm not interested in being a leader. Whether I participate in a protest or something (after the pandemic is over) we'll have to see what comes up.
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hightor
 
  6  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 07:57 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
There was nothing lawful about Al Gore's attempts to cheat.

So asking that all ballots be counted following a close election is "cheating"?

oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 08:12 am
@hightor,
That was not even remotely what the Democrats were doing.

They were recounting votes only in heavily Democratic precincts and not recounting any precincts where the Republicans might make gains.

Further, when the deadline for doing this recount expired and they had not gotten enough Gore votes to declare themselves the winner, they illegally continued counting past the deadline until Republican protesters barged in and shut them down.
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blatham
 
  0  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 09:22 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Trump ‘haemorrhaging’ Twitter followers in wake of election defeat

Sad!
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 09:23 am
@oralloy,
What is wrong is the fact that all your charges are untrue and if you cared about truth you would not make any of them. but you don't.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 09:28 am
@blatham,
basically what I thought was going on seems to be proving true. A lot, possibly the majority, of trump's twitter followers weren't his fans, but merely checking up to see what outrages he was trying to foist on us on that day. Outrage at him, more than support for him..
oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 27 Nov, 2020 09:41 am
@MontereyJack,
Wrong again. I am quite correct to say that it is wrong for Democrats to cheat. There is nothing at all untrue about saying so.

The only people who don't care about the truth are progressives. They are a universally dishonorable sort of people. If they could, progressives would eliminate people who tell the truth much like their idol Stalin did.
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