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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
farmerman
 
  6  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 06:20 am
@blatham,
Ive been catching up on Steven Colberts monologii for the past week and Ive come to the conclusion that he (Colbert) will soon be brought up on charges of treason by Der Herrn and Der ReichsChancellor Deputat, Herr Bannon decide on dispensing with our first amendment rights.

Wicked funny stuff, but borderline dangerous in this present political atmosphere
layman
 
  -4  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 06:30 am
@farmerman,
Very astute, Farmer.

There will be an unprecedented (to put it mildly) crackdown on cheese-eaters of all stripes.

Bannon doesn't need nuthin fancy, just some tools from the shed---vise grips, skill saw, 12-pound sledge hammer---**** like that, ya know?
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layman
 
  -2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 07:12 am
An Englishman walked into a bar, set his ass down on a stool, and told the bartender: "Gimme a glass of milk...and get the lead out of your ass!"

The Bartender said: "Looky here, boy, we don't serve no yellow-toothed limeys here. And even if we did, we don't serve no milk to nobody. But I think I can accommodate your other request, eh...

Then he reached into his back pocket and pulled out a 3-foot long piece of lead pipe.....
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 07:37 am
Having just recovered from the Bowling Green massacre, we now have to send our deepest condolences to Sweden:

http://i.imgur.com/7xm5euK.jpg

Quote:
Trump told supporters: “We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden.”

“Sweden, who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They’re having problems like they never thought possible. You look at what’s happening in Brussels. You look at what’s happening all over the world. Take a look at Nice. Take a look at Paris.”

There were questions about whether Trump had confused Sweden with Sehwan in Pakistan, where a suicide bomber blew himself up among devotees at the Sufi shrine on Friday, killing 80 people.
[...]
After Trump’s remarks in Florida the Swedish news outlet Aftonbladet posted a story about crime that really had occurred in Sweden on Friday. It included “due to harsh weather in northern parts of Sweden the road E10 was closed between Katterjakk and Riksgransen” and “a man died in hospital, after an accident in the workplace earlier that day”.
Source
hightor
 
  4  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 07:40 am
@blatham,
Quote:
Jesus. Of the six top stories/articles at the New Yorker today, five are on politics.

It's easy to get overwhelmed.

The trouble with a global 24/7 news cycle is the non-stop coverage of every new scoop and scandal announced with blaring headlines and followed with breathless excitement. There's this sense that the world is changing quickly, but all these little incidents are incremental. The real story unfolds much more slowly. The practical consequences of the travel ban, the seating of Justice Gorsuch, the cancellation of trade agreements and other feature stories will unfold over years, not days or weeks. We might not even recognize future developments as having grown out of decisions which look insignificant today. Our appetite for fresh, piping hot news stories mimics the addict's feverish search for his daily fix. The media make money pushing the headline of the hour. Five years from now stories which grab our attention at this moment will look like more like click-bait than real news.
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 09:34 am
@hightor,
Among many other things, Trump will have a lasting effect by drastically cutting government spending....The fat, complacent, ever-growing vast bureaucracies are gunna get a shitload of fat trimmed offa they sorry ass.

No more paying $600 each for toilet seats and ballpeen hammers, either. Trump aint no chump.
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camlok
 
  0  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 09:36 am
@hightor,
You've provided a perfect description of how the propaganda machine works.

Well done.
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giujohn
 
  -2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 09:38 am
@layman,
He probably gits it in the end on a regular basis.

And the mods were gonna ban me for posting it but I promised them some of that stick up money...Can ya spare a couple more c-notes?
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giujohn
 
  -2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 09:43 am
@layman,
layman wrote:

****, that's a million dollars a month for Obama's vacations and politicking, eh?

A month! Gimme that much for vacation money and you won't NEVER see my ass round these here parts no more, eh?

I mean, sure, I've had my share of extended vacations, meals and lodging included, courtesy of the State, but they wasn't in no fancy-ass resorts, I can tellya that.


Was dat da gray bar hotel for all dose stick ups you done pulled wit your shotgun?
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layman
 
  -2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 10:02 am
Quote:
Trump press conference reveals long game. Media still scrambling

In Thursday’s presser he was, at times, bombastic, dynamic, angry, irreverent, funny, disorganized, temperamental, attacking, thoughtful, and committed. What about that is different from the man we’ve seen since he entered the race in June of 2015? Nothing.

Yet when it was over, it left the media scrambling, confused and desperate to find the right headline amidst the hundreds of possible takeaways...And yet, the media still hasn’t figured it out. The reaction and fallout from Thursday’s press conference amongst the press simply affirms the president’s basic and underlying message to the American people: “the media hates me and doesn’t understand you.”

On Thursday, the President took back hold of the reins, re-centered his message and took a small step towards victory in 2020. Strategic. Planned. Effective.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/320096-trump-press-conference-reveals-long-game-media-still-scrambling

Watchin Trump with the press is like watching some over-the-hill pug trying to fight Ali in his prime. They take wild, roundhouse swings that miss badly, and they end up twirling around like an ice skater.

Ali can finish the guy any time, but he knows the crowd wants a show, so he gives him a few jabs, then puts his arms at his side and sticks his chin way out for a target. Another wild-ass swing. Another bad miss.

Ali doesn't really hit the guy--it more like a bitchslap. Like a cat playing with a mouse for a good long spell until he bored and finishes the poor bastard off, ya know?

It just aint no kinda fair fight, eh?
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blatham
 
  4  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 10:20 am
@farmerman,
I love Colbert but now watch little TV so haven't seen what he's been up to. I'm not too worried about Kelly at HS but Pompeo and Sessions I wouldn't count on to do much to stop police-state moves from Trump/Bannon. Ryan/McConnell/Pence probably won't do much of anything to stop Trump while they are getting most everything they want in legislative goals.
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blatham
 
  4  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 10:24 am
@Walter Hinteler,
From you link to the Guardian
Quote:
The source of Trump’s remark is unclear, but it came after Fox News aired an interview with film-maker Ami Horowitz, whose latest documentary examines whether high crime rates in areas of Sweden is linked to its previous open-door policy on people fleeing war and persecution.

Dollars to donuts that's it. What a ******* idiot.
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hightor
 
  4  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 10:28 am
From a review of Joan Didion's South and West
Quote:
An unquestioned premise among those who live in American cities with international airports has been, for more than half a century now, that Enlightenment values would in time become conventional wisdom. Some fought for this future to come sooner. Others waited patiently. But nobody seemed to believe that it would never arrive. Nobody, certainly, in Los Angeles or the Bay Area (...)

Two decades into the new millennium, however, a plurality of the population has clung defiantly to the old way of life. They still believe in the viability of armed revolt. (...) their solidarity is only reinforced by outside disapproval, particularly disapproval by the northern press. They have resisted with mockery, then rage, the collapse of the old identity categories. They have resisted the premise that white skin should not be given special consideration. They have resisted new technology and scientific evidence of global ecological collapse. The force of this resistance has been strong enough to elect a president.

NYR
blatham
 
  7  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 10:38 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Our appetite for fresh, piping hot news stories

I don't see it that way (though there's no question of a post-CNN appetite for constant news as "entertainment" and I get the aspect of news entities monetizing through fresh and hot).

As I noted, I've never seen the New Yorker in this mode which suggests something quite new right at this moment (or they would have done this before). Likewise the big press entities - I've never seen such a clear concentration on describing, day after day, what's going so wrong with a leader and administration, particularly in it's first month. This has no precedent. So again, this isn't the normal click-bait/sell papers motivation.

Certainly not everyone in journalism nor in media studies agree on how to go about responding to this present administration but no one who's responsible deems it can be ignored. That Trump and people count on media to cover them and relay what they say does not mean it will be a winning strategy for Trump over time - his low and dwindling approval underlines this. And responsible people in media have no option to other than they are now doing.



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blatham
 
  5  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 10:42 am
@hightor,
Quote:
From a review of Joan Didion's South and West

Good man! I hadn't seen that yet. I love Didion with gusto. I attended a lecture she gave in New York about ten years ago (after her last book release). Her book Political Fictions is so damned smart.
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layman
 
  -2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 10:46 am
I wonder if good ole Spiro Agnew has finished servin his time yet, eh? Trump could use a guy like him, ya know? He would be the perfect guy to lead the campaign to round up all the cheese-eaters, I figure.

Quote:
In the United States today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism. They have formed their own 4H Club the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history.

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A spirit of national masochism prevails, encouraged by an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals

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Ultraliberalism today translates into a whimpering isolationism in foreign policy, a mulish obstructionism in domestic policy, and a pusillanimous pussyfooting on the critical issue of law and order.
camlok
 
  2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 10:48 am
@hightor,
She must be a cheese-eater.
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hightor
 
  2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 11:23 am
@layman,
Agnew wasn't much more than a ventriloquist's dummy — those speeches were written by William Safire and Pat Buchanan. You don't really think the graft-sucking bounder (who died in '96) could come up with this sort of stuff on his own do you?

"hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history"

"pusillanimous pussyfooters"

"nattering nabobs of negativism"
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 11:50 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Not just me, of course. It was the broad consensus. Wrong as we know.

There was no such consensus. Only the Dems were certain of winning. The Republicans and the Sandersists said repeatedly that Clinton could very well lose (as you'd expect them to say).

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We all knew Clinton has vulnerabilities (who doesn't, particularly if female) but almost everyone got the degree wrong.

Some of us got it widely wrong (those with a cocksure certainty Clinton would win) and others got it only slightly wrong (those who thought Clinton was a weak candidate who could quite possibly lose)...

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As to "more likely to lose than Sanders", that's a claim or assumption which I see no reason to grant credence.

That's not the point. The claim says: "Clinton may well lose to Trump". Many people saw and said that right. Only the Clinton camp and their allies in the press didn't grant them credence...

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But you've not given answers for either 1) or 2) that would demonstrate some unique prescience on the part of anyone re election result other than Moore.

I am no prescient. I am just more ready than you are to discuss what the Dems did wrong in the last election.

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I haven't read Piketty (nor other economists, it's an area of study I've chosen to forgo). Perhaps you could make some case as to how Piketty clarifies the subject at hand (the election result or specifically why Clinton was, in his theory set, a predictably losing candidate

That the US has become an oligarchy, like Mayer is saying.


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I cite that essay and Mayer's work [...] These are now deep structural factors at federal and state level.

These factors have long been in the known. It was what Sanders' campaign was all about. And he had quite a few ideas about what could be done.

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Had Clinton's people properly understood that particular vulnerability and managed to organize in a manner superior to what the opposition was smartly doing, she wouldn't have lost in this ridiculously odd and peripheral way.

You'd think a professional politician like Clinton would have the math of the electoral college covered, better than the clown car that that RNC was... I tell you: the Clintonites were far too certain they would win. And that's one of the many reasons for their loss.

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Sanders' supporters were passionate [...] Heart is important, passion is important and good intentions are important and an ethical rejection of the role of money in elections is important. But they are deeply insufficient now.

Nobody said it was sufficient but I for one think it's necessary. It must be the starting point of the reconquista.
giujohn
 
  -3  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 12:45 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Thanks, eh, John? Mighty black of you. After I slip on my ski mask and bust into the 7-11 tonight with my sawed-off, I'll give that $100 I promised you for writing that, OK? Well, either that, or maybe next Thursday, ya know?

I'm kinda surprised you aint been banned for that post. Probably at least 50 complaints have been filed.

Poor Blathy...he aint never gunna git it, I'm afraid.


I was hoping for at least 100 thumbs down...But nary a one... Snowflakes must be getting real depressed.
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