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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Wilso
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 05:37 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
The thing that beats me is it is so blatantly in the open.
What Trump has demonstrated to the party is that he/it can gain a passionate following by openly acting and speaking as they are. And it isn't as if there are no precedents for this type of politics

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/11/10/4B0AA27000000578-5602497-image-a-1_1523440784631.jpg




If the last 4 years has proved anything, it's that the US is barely stable. Trump may have made hate and racism socially acceptable, but it was obviously always bubbling just under the surface, looking for an escape.

Recent events have proved that your democracy is barely holding on. You're right now within a whisker of a fascist dictatorship.
Region Philbis
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 05:39 pm
Quote:
Donald Trump has left the world stage. Few will miss him.

As stage exits go Donald Trump's departure was something of a whimper, the US President leaving the top table of global G20 leaders to play golf.

Trump has been out of kilter with the global mood since he first took office preaching his "America first, fair, not free trade" brand of nationalist isolationist hubris.

Now, as his time in office draws to a close, despite his refusal to publicly accept the reality of the US election results, the combined unspoken message from the world's leaders is: don't let the door hit you on the way out.

The virtual summit for leaders of the world's richest nations is being hosted by Saudi Arabia. Its stated aim is to pull countries together to combat Covid-19, accelerate testing, treatment and vaccines for all, while helping poor nations cope with the pandemic's economic impact.

Evidence of the shifting attitude toward the outgoing US administration came from the lips of Saudi's Minister of Investment, Khalid al-Falih. "When the world needed leadership [to combat Covid-19] there was none," he said. The G20 had stepped up because some nations "turned inwards towards nationalism." Al-Falih didn't mention Trump by name. He didn't need to; his audience understood.

In his G20 opening remarks, Saudi's King Salman also appeared to rebuke a core Trumpian value: that the World Trade Organization (WTO) has too much power.

King Salman, surrounded on screen by Zoom-style boxes showing leaders including a semi-slouching Trump, said: "We have adopted the Riyadh initiative on the future of the WTO with the aim of making the future multilateral trading system more capable to face any present or future challenges."

And, in a stunning development, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, who is normally at odds with the Saudis, backed the King's initiative. "Turkey is supporting fair global economic growth and welfare sharing in line with World Trade Organization principles," he said. "For this, reform process of WTO should progress."

As leaders spoke of the importance of sharing and working together to accelerate Covid-19 testing, treatments and vaccines for all, the White House struck a starkly different tone. White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said in a statement: "President Trump highlighted how the United States marshalled every resource at its disposal to respond to the crisis, as well as the unprecedented economic recovery."

As Trump's actual speech was delivered behind closed virtual doors, and the White House (unlike many other governments) withheld its leader's video, it is impossible to know Trump's tone and inflection or his audience's response.
(cnn)
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 05:53 pm
@Region Philbis,
Quote:
Donald Trump has left the world stage. Few will miss him.

To be fair 80 million Americans citizens, if not more, will. When he leaves in 2025.
farmerman
 
  2  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 05:53 pm
@Wilso,
Watching the slow descent into fascism that the US has been toying wit these lat 4 years, I understand on a much deeper level how a sane civilization, in a pique derived from a previous conflict , could convince itself that its own descent into madness was a path that it should follow . IT took a committee of a few other madmen and the creation of an enemy and badabing, instead of "MAGA" , they had Zeig Heil.

GOOd thing Trump is barely literate, otherwise there may have been a book of "My Strife"
farmerman
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 05:55 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:

To be fair 80 million Americans citizens, if not more, will


I see, you just swapped the heads on the voters preference lists eh?
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 05:58 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Watching the slow descent into fascism that the US has been toying wit these lat 4 years, I understand on a much deeper level how a sane civilization, in a pique derived from a previous conflict , could convince itself that its own descent into madness was a path that it should follow . IT took a committee of a few other madmen and the creation of an enemy and badabing, instead of "MAGA" , they had Zeig Heil.

GOOd thing Trump is barely literate, otherwise there may have been a book of "My Strife"

Fascism again? I have asked you multiple times to name one fascist act or policy of Trump's. You have yet to name any. The fascism is on the Left. They censor, They use violence and intimidation, they are also behind the severest lock downs. Democratic fascists.

Now stop being a blowhole and name Trump's fascist acts or policies.

coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 05:59 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:

To be fair 80 million Americans citizens, if not more, will


I see, you just swapped the heads on the voters preference lists eh?


Dominion and Democrats did the swapping and it will be proven.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:00 pm
https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/compositions/T812A2PA3140PT17X15Y9D1034470941FS3357/views/1,width=500,height=500,appearanceId=2,backgroundColor=ffffff/beijingbiden-mens-premium-t-shirt.jpg
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snood
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:02 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

snood wrote:

If you think Trump is still your president, that’s fine. He’s just going to have to do his presidential work from a different location than the White House, and he’ll need to come up with his own Congress and Judiciary, because someone else is going to be needing the ones in Washington, DC.

Do you realize that your opinion of what I think means nothing to me? You are not an honest man. Therefore I do not value you or will ever value anything you say.

Just remember the candidates you are trying to cheat into office are as dishonest as you and care nothing for this country or its citizens. Neither of them will ever be legitimate.





I hear ya. And all I can answer to that is, whatever you think about me or my candidates, they will be doing the jobs of president and Vice President after 1/20/21. And Donald Trump won’t be taking up so much space on this forum or in our lives. And you and your alternate universe? Meh
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snood
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:11 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Democrats are going to need judges blind in one eye and incapable of seeing out of the other. This election is going to be overturned.

The news is distracting people with Covid. The news has not presented one piece of statistical evidence, and it hasn't been mentioned. Why? If there was no fraud simply debunk the data.



This should be obvious to anyone playing with a full deck.
It’s not the media’s job to “debunk” the “data”.

It’s Trump’s legal team’s job to present whatever evidence they have of fraud in court.
And
It’s the courts’ job to decide whether the “data” presented has any merit.

So far, Trump’s legal team has lost thirty times in court.

So I guess all those judges are in on the scheme to cheat Trump too, huh?
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:16 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

coldjoint wrote:

Democrats are going to need judges blind in one eye and incapable of seeing out of the other. This election is going to be overturned.

The news is distracting people with Covid. The news has not presented one piece of statistical evidence, and it hasn't been mentioned. Why? If there was no fraud simply debunk the data.



This should be obvious to anyone playing with a full deck.
It’s not the media’s job to “debunk” the “data”.

It’s Trump’s legal team’s job to present whatever evidence they have of fraud in court.
And
It’s the courts’ job to decide whether the “data” presented has any merit.

So far, Trump’s legal team has lost thirty times in court.

So I guess all those judges are in on the scheme to cheat Trump too, huh?

Your right lawyers will have to debunk it in front of a judge. It can't be done. Dominion or big tech do not employ every computer savvy person.
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BillW
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:18 pm
@snood,
Statistics are not evidence, they are indications of anomalies based upon how the stats were developed. It is the job of the statistician or the statisticians expert interpreters to determine the reason the possible anomalies were determined. This may then turn into evidence if it is so indicated after analysis. I know, these were the primary jobs I did for years!!
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:20 pm
@Wilso,
Quote:
Trump may have made hate and racism socially acceptable, but it was obviously always bubbling just under the surface, looking for an escape.

Pure projection. The hate came, and keeps coming, from the Left and it is the Democrats trying to make antisemitism socially acceptable.

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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:24 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

Statistics are not evidence, they are indications of anomalies based upon how the stats were developed. It is the job of the statistician or the statisticians expert interpreters to determine the reason the possible anomalies were determined. This may then turn into evidence if it is so indicated after analysis. I know, these were the primary jobs I did for years!!

You know nothing. They are evidence and show impossible anomalies all in Biden's favor. How many time have you seen exact ratios of votes continue for 3 hours? Then have the same ratio appear somewhere else and last for three hours?

I await an answer. And do not say it did not happen because it did.
snood
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:33 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

Statistics are not evidence, they are indications of anomalies based upon how the stats were developed. It is the job of the statistician or the statisticians expert interpreters to determine the reason the possible anomalies were determined. This may then turn into evidence if it is so indicated after analysis. I know, these were the primary jobs I did for years!!

Thanks for the primer on evidence.

It doesn’t affect my point - that it is the courts’ job to decide whether whatever Trump’s lawyers present has merit, and that so far they haven’t seen anything that does.
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:37 pm
Trump campaign cuts Sidney Powell from president’s legal team

Quote:
President Donald Trump appears to have cut ties with Sidney Powell, a key member of his legal team who also represents former national security adviser Michael Flynn in his long-running attempt to unravel a guilty plea for lying about his 2016 contacts with Russia.

The abrupt shake-up came in a terse Sunday-evening statement from the Trump campaign that offered no explanation for Powell’s removal.

“Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own,” Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis said in the statement. “She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”

Powell had made headlines in recent weeks for her increasingly outrageous and unsupported claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election, repeatedly vowing to “release the kraken” of evidence, only to refuse to produce it when asked by reporters.


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/22/trump-campaign-sidney-powell-legal-439357
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:38 pm
https://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/various_uploads/Banana_Map_300.jpg
That is what Democrats want. Someone tell me what one party rule has to do with democracy?
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Hey, jpoint, looks like your belief sidney ppowerll is going to deliver a bombshell for trump isn't gonna gain traction. so so sorrrreeee

Quote:
Trump Lawyers Put Out Statement Throwing Sidney Powell Under The Bus After She Pushes Insane Voter Fraud Conspiracy
Zachary Petrizzo 1 hr ago
tTrump Lawyers Put Out Statement Throwing Sidney Powell Under The Bus After She Pushes Insane Voter Fraud Conspiracs

President Donald Trump’s lawyers put out a statement on Sunday evening distancing themselves from fellow attorney Sidney Powell after she pushed absurd conspiracy theories claiming widespread voter fraud. For a legal team who has called themselves an “elite strike force” but whose actual results are most charitably described as blundering, Powell’s recent commentary apparently went a step too far, sparking a very public split.


On Saturday night, Powell went after Trump ally Governor Brian Kemp (R-GA) in an appearance on Newsmax TV, claiming she has evidence of voting machine fraud in the state while arguing Kemp is complicit.

Then on Sunday evening, the campaign released a statement to distance themselves and the Trump campaign from Powell, and for the first time declaring that she was not actually part of the campaign’s official legal team.

“Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in a personal capacity,” Jenna Ellis, Senior Legal Adviser to the Trump campaign, and Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s lawyer, stated in the press release.


Last Thursday, Powell appeared at a press conference alongside Ellis and Giuliani were she floated numerous unsubstantiated allegations of a far-ranging plot to steal the election between conspirators like George Soros, the Clinton Foundation, the Venezuelan government (including former President Hugo Chavez, who died in 2013), and antifa.

At this time — less then a week ago! — Trump, Ellis, and Giuliani were still touting Powell as apart of their legal teae.




coldjoint
 
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Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:41 pm
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Experts at NASA have discovered a large object heading towards earth, made up completely of Joe Biden ballots. After calculating its mass, the scientists concluded that the meteorite contains approximately 19,000,000,000,000 galactic mail-in-ballots. An astronomical number, indeed.
https://thepeoplescube.com/images/Meteorite_Biden_Harris.jpg
When asked how they are so sure the ballots aren't cast for the incumbent, a NASA employee said that there is no evidence that pro-Trump mail-in-ballots even exist in the universe. Team Biden has already promised to grant citizenship to all extraterrestrial aliens, even if they are bent on destroying humanity and devouring mankind.

It will take about 400 years for the meteorite to strike earth. Pending the unavoidable arrival, Fox News has already called this election, as well as all other elections for all eternity, in favor of Biden and any other Democratic candidates running for office throughout the Galaxy.

Satire, but close to the truth. That is how ridiculous it is to think Biden got the amount of votes he supposedly did.
https://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/nasa-discovers-mail-in-meteorite-en-route-to-earth-t22057.html
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Sun 22 Nov, 2020 06:42 pm
@coldjoint,
Sure didn't have much to do with democracy when trump was in the ascendant until 2018
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