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The big takeaway is this: It’s all just the exact, same people demanding he do what they order him to do and give up and let them win. Just like they demanded he admit he worked with the Russians. Just like they demanded he admit he abused his power in strong-arming the President of Ukraine in a phone call. (President Trump's declassifying the transcript of that call was actually a nice move.)

If a random news site found this a week ago, then I'm going to assume the Trump Campaign's legal team have also found this and are using it in their lawsuits.

The two Republican board members in Wayne County, which includes Detroit and which voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Biden, are white. The Republicans, Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, said they had voted against certifying the results because precincts in the county had conflicting figures for the numbers of votes cast and the number of voters recorded as having participated, even though the disparities mostly involved small numbers of votes.

At one point, Ms. Palmer moved to “certify the results in the communities other than the city of Detroit.”

Mr. Biden won nearly 95 percent of the vote in Detroit, which is more than three-quarters Black. The rest of Wayne County, which voted for Mr. Biden by a smaller margin, is more than three-quarters white.

Mayor Mike Duggan of Detroit accused Republicans of using a racist double standard in targeting small discrepancies in the city when the party’s representatives had no problems certifying heavily white counties that had similar issues.

“You could see the racism in the behavior last night,” Mr. Duggan said at a news conference Wednesday. “American democracy cracked last night, but it didn’t break. But we are seeing a real threat to everything we believe in.”

Ms. Palmer’s motion drew cries of outrage at the meeting, which was held over a Zoom call.

“You look at Black cities and you have extracted a Black city out of the county and said the only one at fault is the city of Detroit, where 80 percent of the people are African-Americans,” the Rev. Wendell Anthony, president of the Detroit chapter of the N.A.A.C.P., shouted on the call, his face almost touching the computer screen.

“Shame on you. You are a disgrace,” he said. “But on Jan. 20, 2021, at twelve noon, no matter what you do, the president of the United States will be Joseph Biden and the vice president, for the first time ever, will be a Black woman named Kamala Harris.”

A Black Detroit resident who attended the meeting, Benita Bradley, asked the Republicans, “Do you know how many young Black teenagers voted for the first time this year? And you sit here and slap those people in the face.”

The initial 2-2 deadlock on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers was among the starkest examples of how previously routine aspects of the nation’s voting system have been tainted by Mr. Trump’s monthslong effort to undermine confidence in the election.

One of the two Democratic members of the board, Jonathan Kinloch, who is Black, said that after the initial vote, he spoke to Ms. Palmer for more than half an hour to try and convince her that certifying the results was the right thing to do and trying to find a way to reach a compromise.

“When it comes to elections, white people don’t understand how ingrained the right to vote is in our conscience,” Mr. Kinloch said. “All those barriers that our grandparents had to do in order to exercise their right to vote that is so easily available to whites in America.”

Neither Republican board member immediately responded to a request for comment on how they came to change their votes.

The office of the Michigan secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, posted a message on Twitter Wednesday saying “all counties have certified their election results. The Board of State Canvassers is scheduled to meet Nov. 23 to certify the Nov. 3 general election.” Mr. Biden beat Mr. Trump in Michigan by nearly 150,000 votes.

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The two Republican board members in Wayne County, which includes Detroit and which voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Biden, are white. The Republicans, Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, said they had voted against certifying the results because precincts in the county had conflicting figures for the numbers of votes cast and the number of voters recorded as having participated, even though the disparities mostly involved small numbers of votes.

At one point, Ms. Palmer moved to “certify the results in the communities other than the city of Detroit.”

Mr. Biden won nearly 95 percent of the vote in Detroit, which is more than three-quarters Black. The rest of Wayne County, which voted for Mr. Biden by a smaller margin, is more than three-quarters white.

Mayor Mike Duggan of Detroit accused Republicans of using a racist double standard in targeting small discrepancies in the city when the party’s representatives had no problems certifying heavily white counties that had similar issues.

“You could see the racism in the behavior last night,” Mr. Duggan said at a news conference Wednesday. “American democracy cracked last night, but it didn’t break. But we are seeing a real threat to everything we believe in.”

Ms. Palmer’s motion drew cries of outrage at the meeting, which was held over a Zoom call.

“You look at Black cities and you have extracted a Black city out of the county and said the only one at fault is the city of Detroit, where 80 percent of the people are African-Americans,” the Rev. Wendell Anthony, president of the Detroit chapter of the N.A.A.C.P., shouted on the call, his face almost touching the computer screen.

“Shame on you. You are a disgrace,” he said. “But on Jan. 20, 2021, at twelve noon, no matter what you do, the president of the United States will be Joseph Biden and the vice president, for the first time ever, will be a Black woman named Kamala Harris.”

A Black Detroit resident who attended the meeting, Benita Bradley, asked the Republicans, “Do you know how many young Black teenagers voted for the first time this year? And you sit here and slap those people in the face.”

The initial 2-2 deadlock on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers was among the starkest examples of how previously routine aspects of the nation’s voting system have been tainted by Mr. Trump’s monthslong effort to undermine confidence in the election.

One of the two Democratic members of the board, Jonathan Kinloch, who is Black, said that after the initial vote, he spoke to Ms. Palmer for more than half an hour to try and convince her that certifying the results was the right thing to do and trying to find a way to reach a compromise.

“When it comes to elections, white people don’t understand how ingrained the right to vote is in our conscience,” Mr. Kinloch said. “All those barriers that our grandparents had to do in order to exercise their right to vote that is so easily available to whites in America.”

Neither Republican board member immediately responded to a request for comment on how they came to change their votes.

The office of the Michigan secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, posted a message on Twitter Wednesday saying “all counties have certified their election results. The Board of State Canvassers is scheduled to meet Nov. 23 to certify the Nov. 3 general election.” Mr. Biden beat Mr. Trump in Michigan by nearly 150,000 votes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/you-could-see-the-racism-republican-officials-face-outcry-after-refusing-to-certify-detroit-vote/ar-BB1b8nun?ocid=msedgdhp

Michigan Democrat Doxxes Children Of Wayne County Election Official

BREAKING VIDEO:

The exact moment Democrat Abraham Aiyash threatened Monica Palmer's children on zoom. This extortion attempt directly influenced the decision to agree to certify the election fraud in #WayneCounty.@TheJusticeDept @JackPosobiec @DonaldJTrumpJr @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/vDGiFIwmOf

— Miss Michigan (@correctthemedia) November 18, 2020

‘Experts’ Listed 27 House Races As Toss-Ups. Republicans Won All 27

Rebelofnj wrote:

If a random news site found this a week ago, then I'm going to assume the Trump Campaign's legal team have also found this and are using it in their lawsuits.

Conclusive evidence. Is that why the media never reported it? What about you, is it right to steal the election because it s Trump?

"DNA-LEVEL" STATISTICAL PROOF: "Smartmatic" Vote-Counting System Was Manipulated in PA and GA to Overturn Trump's Victory

The highlighted cells show where the vote counts -- stunningly obvious in retrospect -- were manipulated to benefit Biden.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xYYxl5WQgJo/X7Q9XwgKewI/AAAAAAACC3g/fk7ufbtdPBsZp3Aze86xZOZxs6BI01OVgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/201117-vote-fraud-workbooks-pa-ga-020.jpg

Am I going to get an answer?

We cannot emphasize directly or frequently enough one central point: There is no evidence of any systemic fraud in the 2020 election. There is barely evidence of even minor fraudulent incidents. ABC News contacted state election boards to inquire about incidents of fraud. The network’s Arielle Mitropoulos and Will McDuffie learned about a few dozen in a handful of states.

There are apparently eight allegations under investigation in Idaho. One in Maine was caught before the ballot was counted. North Carolina has 33 complaints, one of which might involve voter impersonation. Nebraska and Pennsylvania identified one each. (Pennsylvania’s is probably an incident from October, which was also caught before a vote was cast.)

For scale, at least 155 million votes were cast this year.

Despite the utter lack of any systemic efforts to commit fraud, the Trump campaign keeps insisting that fraud was a problem. It has to, of course: The fraud claims necessarily undergird its legal and political strategies. Without allegations of rampant fraud, there’s no political will to pressure people such as Raffensperger and no real reason to argue for courts to overturn election results. Trump began lying about the threat of fraud well before Election Day to create precisely the atmosphere that the campaign is now leveraging.

The fraud allegations being made by the Trump campaign generally fall into three categories: They aren’t fraud, they’ve been debunked or they aren’t significant enough to throw any election result into doubt.

It did happen in the 1984 US election.

Reagan won in a landslide victory, winning all but one state in the Presidential election.

However, The Republican party lost two Senate races (though they still held control of the Senate), while The Democratic Party still had majority rule over the House of Representatives.

snood wrote:

I think one man one vote would be an effective way to “fix” the system.

Yes, that is a good simple minded plan. It's great for a class President but not so much for the President of the United States.

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Am I going to get an answer?

I will answer with this:

Two weeks on, no evidence of any significant fraud

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We cannot emphasize directly or frequently enough one central point: There is no evidence of any systemic fraud in the 2020 election. There is barely evidence of even minor fraudulent incidents. ABC News contacted state election boards to inquire about incidents of fraud. The network’s Arielle Mitropoulos and Will McDuffie learned about a few dozen in a handful of states.

There are apparently eight allegations under investigation in Idaho. One in Maine was caught before the ballot was counted. North Carolina has 33 complaints, one of which might involve voter impersonation. Nebraska and Pennsylvania identified one each. (Pennsylvania’s is probably an incident from October, which was also caught before a vote was cast.)

For scale, at least 155 million votes were cast this year.

Despite the utter lack of any systemic efforts to commit fraud, the Trump campaign keeps insisting that fraud was a problem. It has to, of course: The fraud claims necessarily undergird its legal and political strategies. Without allegations of rampant fraud, there’s no political will to pressure people such as Raffensperger and no real reason to argue for courts to overturn election results. Trump began lying about the threat of fraud well before Election Day to create precisely the atmosphere that the campaign is now leveraging.

The fraud allegations being made by the Trump campaign generally fall into three categories: They aren’t fraud, they’ve been debunked or they aren’t significant enough to throw any election result into doubt.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/17/two-weeks-no-evidence-any-significant-fraud/

Then either you or the writers of these blogs should contact the Trump Campaign and show them the evidence. Shouldn't be too difficult to do, even before their fraud hotline was shut down.

If a laptop repairman from Delaware can contact Rudy Giuliani, then contacting the other lawyers in Trump's legal team is no problem.

Why would the Trump Campaign care if the mainstream media covers what is found by these random blogs and Twitter handles?

If Trump's legal team can get a major victory in the courts without the usual media circus distracting them, then that should be enough to sway public opinion.

However, I don't see them changing the outcome of the election.

The media wasn't upset when Republican observers were denied access to the count.

The media is now upset that they are not allowed access to the courtroom.

Hm. https://t.co/GRM4n7HlvX
— Raheem Kassam (@RaheemKassam) November 17, 2020

Benjamin Wittes
@benjaminwittes
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Let’s speak frankly about the Republican position in the wake of this election: It is that the votes of black people are presumptively not legal votes.

It really is that simple.