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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Wilso
 
  2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:02 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Quote:
what odds that before the inauguration, Trump leaves the country, and lands somewhere without an extradition treaty?


I'm just saying. Russia doesn't have a treaty with the US.


Imagine the irony of that happening.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:03 pm
@coldjoint,
Ypu will notice I trust, none of those deal with FRAUD. They just deal with THE WAYTHE COUNT IS CARRIED OUT. You're alleging fraud on no credible evidence, which is a very different thing. Just more right wing conspiracy theories. I'm waiting for you to claim on irrefutable evidence that Obama assassinated JFK and Biden bought him the rifle.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:06 pm
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:

Rebelofnj wrote:

Quote:
what odds that before the inauguration, Trump leaves the country, and lands somewhere without an extradition treaty?


I'm just saying. Russia doesn't have a treaty with the US.


Imagine the irony of that happening.

Under Biden I can see America aligning with Communists. But Joe might have to ask China first.
BillW
 
  1  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:06 pm
@Wilso,
Quote:
Apparently a president can pardon someone for a crime for which they've yet to be indicted. So I'm guessing his entire family is off the hook. As for not being able to pardon himself - has this ever been tested?

It hasn't been tested; but, until the current time period, it always been believed that the founders would never have wanted someone to be able to pardon their selves.

The test would be SCOTUS - in the current situation it is questionable if they would be honorable in their vote. Like the SCOTUS vote in the Bush II and Gore election, they could make a "in this instance only" vote that is very questionable at best!
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Wilso
 
  2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:10 pm
Will be a pleasant change after the last 4 years for you to have 1st lady of this caliber.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-10/jill-biden-may-be-the-first-first-lady-to-keep-her-other-job/12863406
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:12 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
You're alleging fraud on no credible evidence,

So not one of the whistle blowers is credible? The violation of a statistical science law is not a credible sign of probable fraud? People voting at age 120?

Stop with the lying rhetoric. Biden will never be a legitimate president. Hopefully he will not get away with it. I know one thing, he will never unite this country unless he decides to exterminate half of the population.
.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:13 pm
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:

Will be a pleasant change after the last 4 years for you to have 1st lady of this caliber.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-10/jill-biden-may-be-the-first-first-lady-to-keep-her-other-job/12863406

The one that cheated on her husband with Biden? Class act. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Rebelofnj
 
  5  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:19 pm
@coldjoint,
Oddly enough, Chinese officials have yet to congratulate President-elect Biden for his victory. For comparison, they congratulated President Trump a day after the 2016 election.

Then again, China-US relations have weakened in the last 4 years.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-china-reaction-idUKKBN27P0OY
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:27 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Oddly enough, Chinese officials have yet to congratulate President-elect Biden for his victory. For comparison, they congratulated President Trump a day after the election.

Then again, China-US relations have weakened in the last 4 years.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-china-reaction-idUKKBN27P0OY

They have enough sense not to count Trump out. Remember they have dealt with him and he is not afraid to use the power the office of the US president gives him.
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Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:27 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Quote:
For comparison, they congratulated President Trump a day after the election.


There wasn't any doubt that Trump had won decisively.

This time, there's many conflicting indicators, and only the press is banging their drum loudly.
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hightor
 
  2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 07:58 pm
@snood,
Quote:
While you watch Donald Trump’s presidency stagger to its ugly end, always keep in mind how it began: Trump entered the political world on the back of the “birther” conspiracy theory, a movement whose importance was massively underestimated at the time. Aside from its racist undertones, think about what a belief in birtherism really implied. If you doubted that Barack Obama was born in the United States—and about a third of Americans did, including 72 percent of registered Republicans—then that meant you also believed that Obama was an illegitimate president. That meant, in other words, you believed that everyone—the entire American political, judicial, and media establishment, including the White House and Congress, the federal courts and the FBI, all of them—was complicit in a gigantic plot to swindle the public into accepting this false commander in chief. A third of Americans had so little faith in American democracy, broadly defined, they were willing to think that Obama’s entire presidency was a fraud.

That third of Americans went on to become Trump’s base. (...)

Trump is no good at governing, but he has long understood, with the intuition of a seasoned con man, how to create distrust, and how to use that distrust to his advantage. The journalist Lesley Stahl has said he once told her that he attacks the media to “discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.” He discredited and demeaned public servants such as the National Security Council staffers Fiona Hill and Alexander Vindman too, so that when they spoke honestly about his behavior, no one would believe them either.

Now, having spent months talking darkly about the rules being rigged against him, he has laid a set of traps designed to discredit and demean the electoral system so that some Americans, at least, lose their faith in it. This has been said by others, but it bears restating: That Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan did not finish counting their votes on Tuesday night is no accident. In all of these states, Republican legislators prevented their election boards from counting postal votes before Election Day. In the midst of a pandemic that Democrats take more seriously than Republicans do, after Trump himself told his followers that voting by mail was suspect, the partisan gap between in-person and postal voters was always likely to be stark. (...)

Trump anticipated that vote totals might begin to shift in Joe Biden’s favor. That was why, when he spoke at 2:20 a.m. on Election Night, before results were even remotely clear, he declared the vote “a fraud on the American public” and announced that “we don’t want them to find any ballots at 4 o’clock in the morning and add them to the list.” That’s why Republicans had already launched a rash of frivolous lawsuits, designed to create the appearance that something was wrong.

(...)


Trump's Forever Campaign
Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 08:13 pm
@hightor,
Only, the "birther" theory doesn't make sense, considering Obama wasn't on the ticket. Hillary shot herself in the foot so many times on the campaign trail, it wasn't a surprise to anyone when she started falling over.

The rest of that dribble isn't worthy of comment.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 08:19 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
While you watch Donald Trump’s presidency stagger to its ugly end, always keep in mind how it began: Trump entered the political world on the back of the “birther” conspiracy theory, a movement whose importance was massively underestimated at the time. Aside from its racist undertones, think about what a belief in birtherism really implied. If you doubted that Barack Obama was born in the United States—and about a third of Americans did, including 72 percent of registered Republicans—then that meant you also believed that Obama was an illegitimate president. That meant, in other words, you believed that everyone—the entire American political, judicial, and media establishment, including the White House and Congress, the federal courts and the FBI, all of them—was complicit in a gigantic plot to swindle the public into accepting this false commander in chief. A third of Americans had so little faith in American democracy, broadly defined, they were willing to think that Obama’s entire presidency was a fraud.

That third of Americans went on to become Trump’s base. (...)

Trump is no good at governing, but he has long understood, with the intuition of a seasoned con man, how to create distrust, and how to use that distrust to his advantage. The journalist Lesley Stahl has said he once told her that he attacks the media to “discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.” He discredited and demeaned public servants such as the National Security Council staffers Fiona Hill and Alexander Vindman too, so that when they spoke honestly about his behavior, no one would believe them either.

Now, having spent months talking darkly about the rules being rigged against him, he has laid a set of traps designed to discredit and demean the electoral system so that some Americans, at least, lose their faith in it. This has been said by others, but it bears restating: That Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan did not finish counting their votes on Tuesday night is no accident. In all of these states, Republican legislators prevented their election boards from counting postal votes before Election Day. In the midst of a pandemic that Democrats take more seriously than Republicans do, after Trump himself told his followers that voting by mail was suspect, the partisan gap between in-person and postal voters was always likely to be stark. (...)

Trump anticipated that vote totals might begin to shift in Joe Biden’s favor. That was why, when he spoke at 2:20 a.m. on Election Night, before results were even remotely clear, he declared the vote “a fraud on the American public” and announced that “we don’t want them to find any ballots at 4 o’clock in the morning and add them to the list.” That’s why Republicans had already launched a rash of frivolous lawsuits, designed to create the appearance that something was wrong.

(...)


Trump's Forever Campaign

Keep the hate going. Sell the idea that Biden won the election legally. And from the thoroughly discredited Atlantic? Laughing I am not buying and either are over 70 million Americans. Do you know any Americans or are they all like you?
coldjoint
 
  0  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 09:14 pm
Quote:
Twitter Locked My Account For Sharing Post On Voter Fraud

Quote:
Twitter really really doesn’t want anyone to read this article, “Joe Biden’s votes violate Benford’s Law (Mathematics).” In fact, if you tweet it, you will be locked out of your account, not-so-subtly accused of being some kind of pervert, required to remove it, and have a Twitter message slapped on your page for 14 days as shaming ‘punishment.’

Frankly, the Benford’s Law article is kind of flawed and problematic, but I did find it interesting enough to share and commented that I found it “interesting” in the tweet that Twitter coerced me to remove in order to regain access to my account.

Do these Twitter people play poker? They have to be God awful at it. If these stories and accusations are baseless why are they censored?
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/11/twitter-locked-my-account-for-sharing-post-on-voter-fraud/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LegalInsurrection+%28Le%C2%B7gal+In%C2%B7sur%C2%B7rec%C2%B7tion%29#pq=u5Q9DW


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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 10:20 pm
@coldjoint,
better get yoour vision checked if you an see that. rabid conservatives still see communists under their beds thirty years after communists for all intents and purposes went out of business, Not a problem. pure calumny against biden.
Shameful, joint, shameful.
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snood
 
  4  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 10:22 pm
coldjoint wrote:

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Wilso wrote:

cj and oralboy can keep jerking off all over the web until their dicks bleed. Doesn't change the fact that it's over. Joe Biden is president elect, and in January will become president. Tough **** fuckwits. Come back when Trump Jnr runs.


It is not over until the states certify the results and the electors vote. If you wish to put your ignorance on display your wish has just been granted. Mr. Green


It’s over. And even you blind mice will realize it in 72 days. Enjoy your mindfuck until then.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 10:26 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

coldjoint wrote:

+
Wilso wrote:

cj and oralboy can keep jerking off all over the web until their dicks bleed. Doesn't change the fact that it's over. Joe Biden is president elect, and in January will become president. Tough **** fuckwits. Come back when Trump Jnr runs.


It is not over until the states certify the results and the electors vote. If you wish to put your ignorance on display your wish has just been granted. Mr. Green


It’s over. And even you blind mice will realize it in 72 days. Enjoy your mindfuck until then.

You are trying to sell a story. I say it is not over. And everyday it goes on Twitter, the networks, and useful idiots on forums get more defensive when they should, according to them, have nothing to worry about.

It has to be a bitch not to believe your own lies.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 10:27 pm
@coldjoint,
The 75 million Americans who know Biden was elected legally because they voted for him know you and your discredited conspiracy theory voter fraud claims are full of ****.
glitterbag
 
  1  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 10:29 pm
@coldjoint,
Keep your fingers crossed. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. NEXT!!!!!
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snood
 
  2  
Mon 9 Nov, 2020 10:33 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

snood wrote:

coldjoint wrote:

+
Wilso wrote:

cj and oralboy can keep jerking off all over the web until their dicks bleed. Doesn't change the fact that it's over. Joe Biden is president elect, and in January will become president. Tough **** fuckwits. Come back when Trump Jnr runs.


It is not over until the states certify the results and the electors vote. If you wish to put your ignorance on display your wish has just been granted. Mr. Green

It’s over. And even you blind mice will realize it in 72 days. Enjoy your mindfuck until then.

You are trying to sell a story. I say it is not over. And everyday it goes on Twitter, the networks, and useful idiots on forums get more defensive when they should, according to them, have nothing to worry about.

It has to be a bitch not to believe your own lies.



Enjoy the last 72 days of the impeached disgraceful president. It’s all you’re gonna get.
 

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