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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 01:21 pm
@izzythepush,
That was the first time that a metropolitan city in Europe lost virtually every one of its Jewish inhabitants to deliberate murder. And it also involved the slaughter of a greater number of people (34,000) in a two-day period than any other single German massacre during World War II.

Babi Yar, the "Holocaust by bullets", was also at issue during the so-called "Kiev trial" (used by the Russians to stage something similar to the Nuremberg Trial).
snood
 
  1  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 01:25 pm
@izzythepush,
Doesn’t change the point I was making - that a population can become numb and accepting of horrible things.
Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 01:29 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

That was the first time that a metropolitan city in Europe lost virtually every one of its Jewish inhabitants to deliberate murder. And it also involved the slaughter of a greater number of people (34,000) in a two-day period than any other single German massacre during World War II.

Babi Yar, the "Holocaust by bullets", was also at issue during the so-called "Kiev trial" (used by the Russians to stage something similar to the Nuremberg Trial).


What happened in Germany during the 1930's at the hands of Hitler and his supporters ought be a lesson no sane person should forget.

The American right has forgotten...or just does not care, Walter.

I hope we are not setting up a similar lesson right now. My feelings are that Trump will lose big...and this disgusting administration will be tossed in the **** pile of history before it ever gains the footing the Nazis did.

But....
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 01:34 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

That was the first time that a metropolitan city in Europe lost virtually every one of its Jewish inhabitants to deliberate murder. And it also involved the slaughter of a greater number of people (34,000) in a two-day period than any other single German massacre during World War II.

Babi Yar, the "Holocaust by bullets", was also at issue during the so-called "Kiev trial" (used by the Russians to stage something similar to the Nuremberg Trial).


What happened in Germany during the 1930's at the hands of Hitler and his supporters ought be a lesson no sane person should forget.

The American right has forgotten...or just does not care, Walter.

I hope we are not setting up a similar lesson right now. My feelings are that Trump will lose big...and this disgusting administration will be tossed in the **** pile of history before it ever gains the footing the Nazis did.

But....

The brown shirts are on the streets now. They call themselves Anti-Fa and BLM. If anyone has anything in common with 1930 Germany it is those groups. The Left is behind those groups. They are using their foothold right now.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2020 01:34 pm
@snood,
I'm still quite aware what happened in the 50's here.
I don't think that the German population was accepting these "horrible things" as your acquaintance reported.

Invading Russia might have been a topic since the last 10,000 German POW's only returned in 1955/6 from there.
engineer
 
  3  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 01:35 pm
@Frank Apisa,
That's probably what Germans thought in 1923 when Hilter was arrested for treason.
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snood
 
  1  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 02:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

I'm still quite aware what happened in the 50's here.
I don't think that the German population was accepting these "horrible things" as your acquaintance reported.

Invading Russia might have been a topic since the last 10,000 German POW's only returned in 1955/6 from there.


I hear you. Point well taken, sir.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 02:21 pm
Quote:
DEMS NOW IN FULL PANIC MODE

It is only a couple of weeks till the presidential election and the anger that once animated Democrats has been replaced by fear––stark, bug-eyed, white-knuckle, deadly fear and dread.
Wherever their marching orders come from––leftist billionaire globalists, or China, as writer Daniel Greenfield spells out––they have now been reduced to holding their collective breaths in the hope that:

Joe Biden can stay vertical and passably sentient till November 3rd,
His VP choice, Kalamity Harris, can continue to conceal her close ties––familial and political––to Communist China,
The escalating Hunter/Joe/Burisma scandal doesn’t get even more explosive and scandalous, as writer Andrea Widburg predicts it will, or, as she wrote: ….the e-mails “also indicate that his father pimped Hunter to foreign governments to act as a bagman for bribes”…not to omit Hunter’s alleged appetite for child pornography.

Journalist Jack Cashill asks: Can Democrats Sell Their Worst Candidate Ever? “For all their talk of empowering women and minorities,” he writes, “leftists have used their vast media, tech, and deep-state power to sell America a corrupt old white guy of diminished mental capacity…by suppressing the fact that––by any standards––Biden is a pedophile, a plagiarist, a liar, a hypocrite, and––by the left’s standards––a racist, sexist, warmonger as well as a credibly accused sexual predator.”

But obviously, character is not what Democrats care about, as demonstrated by eight straight years of watching Bill Clinton spit in Hillary’s face every single day with his serial affairs, or Barack Obama trot around the world bad-mouthing the country that gave him everything.

What they care about, as evidenced brazenly over the past four years, is getting rid of the guy who exposed their deep corruption, the better to avoid their inevitable prison sentences!

No Twitter necessary. Anyone can see why Democrats support voting by mail and early voting.

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izzythepush
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2020 02:24 pm
@snood,
Were they though? The Holocaust and the invasion of Russia are hand in hand, you can’t say that they weren’t condemning the Holocaust when they condemned Barbarossa.

There’s not enough information about the questioning to come to a determination.

Most Historians think Hitler’s greatest mistake was the invasion of Russia.

Preceding questions could have lead in that direction.
snood
 
  3  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 02:56 pm
@izzythepush,
(sigh)

I was just saying that, like a frog not noticing he’s boiling if the temperature is increased gradually, populations can be lulled into accepting worse and worse situations as status quo.

I think that’s happened to this country under Trump to some degree.

You think you can agree or disagree with that, without giving me a history lesson?
oralloy
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:23 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
coldjoint wrote:
Laughing Laughing Laughing
Are you kidding? The Russia crap was a scam.

Wrong.

No actually he is right. When the President (meaning Barack Obama) makes fraudulent claims in order to launch an illegal investigation into his political opponents, that investigation is a scam.


hightor wrote:
coldjoint wrote:
It has been exposed and the people who keep bringing it up know that. Why don't you?

The only thing that was exposed is the complicity of the Trump campaign.

That is incorrect. There is no such complicity. And therefore there is no such exposure of complicity.


hightor wrote:
Why do you refuse to acknowledge the existence of the Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Russia?

No one refuses to acknowledge it.

But beyond the fact that it found no evidence of collusion by Mr. Trump or by anyone close to him, what significance does it have?


hightor wrote:
You need to get out of your basement:
Jack Brewster wrote:
Russian President Vladimir Putin directly ordered the hacking of the Democratic Party's servers with the goal of leaking damaging information that would hurt then-candidate Hillary Clinton and provide a boost to President Trump's campaign, the final report from the Senate Intelligence Committee's probe into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election released Tuesday found, among other damaging findings.
forbes

How are those findings supposed to be damaging?


hightor wrote:
coldjoint wrote:
They just hope people are still stupid enough to believe it.

Well, it's well known and pretty extensively documented -- why wouldn't they believe it?
Quote:
A federal grand jury has returned a 7-count indictment against six Russian military intelligence officers for major hacking operations targeting foreign elections, the Olympics and computer systems worldwide that resulted in nearly $1 billion in losses, the Justice Department announced Monday.
axios

There is no documentation of any collusion by anyone who is close to Mr. Trump.
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oralloy
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:25 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
It really does make me wonder why people like cj stubbornly refuse to accept the facts and to take off their blinkers.

He's not the one who is refusing to accept facts.

It's progressives who deny reality.
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oralloy
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:26 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
Trump has been accused of sexual misconduct by at least 26 women since the 1970s. He has repeatedly denied all allegations.

The problem is, Democrats have a history of framing innocent people for imaginary crimes.

Remember Scooter Libby?
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oralloy
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:27 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
You engage in the same repetitive moronic drivel you always have.

Facts are facts. They don't change from post to post.


izzythepush wrote:
And you wonder why nobody believes your fairy story about having a high IQ.

High-IQ people recognize me as one of them.

The low-IQ rabble isn't fit to draw conclusions on their own.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:30 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
Doesn't Trump actively use name-calling when ranting against his opponents?

Probably. I don't pay a huge amount of attention to what politicians say.

All I need to know is that progressives are out to violate people's civil liberties for no reason, and Mr. Trump protects our civil liberties.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:39 pm
I think this belongs in the thread about "Things people said that would make great signature lines"

"The low-IQ rabble isn't fit to draw conclusions without lots of help"
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:41 pm
@glitterbag,
Fine by me. It's your childish name-calling that I object to.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:42 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Trump calls for special prosecutor to probe Hunter Biden's 'major corruption'

If Mr. Biden manages to win the election, Mr. Trump should appoint an entire battery of independent prosecutors to relentlessly hound the Biden Administration with criminal investigations.
Sturgis
 
  2  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:50 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
I don't pay a huge amount of attention...

Quote:
...progressives are...
...Trump is...


Seeing as how you admit to not paying too much attention,, you have no idea what the real scope of the beliefs are.

YEP, just another ignorant schlump. It's clearer each day how and why America ended up on the Disaster Express.

Thank your lucky stars that Biden, Harris, Omar, Ocasio-Cortez and others might still be able to hit the brake and then put our train back on the right track.


You can even hop on board for the magnificent ride to freedom!
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 20 Oct, 2020 03:53 pm
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:
Seeing as how you admit to not paying too much attention,, you have no idea what the real scope of the beliefs are.

I know that progressives try to violate people's civil liberties for no reason.

I know that Mr. Trump protects our civil liberties.

That's all I need to know.


Sturgis wrote:
You can even hop on board for the magnificent ride to freedom!

Maliciously violating people's civil liberties for no reason is not freedom.
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