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coldjoint
 
  2  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 05:08 pm
Just watched the NBC Nightly News. Not one mention of the NY Post's story that proves Biden lied about Burisma. Why withhold news that shows likely corruption by Biden? Do they think people should not know this?

They sure do.
The credibility of the media is about nil and crap like this shows they could care less about the American people and their right to know the truth.
Builder
 
  2  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 05:38 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Do they think people should not know this?


Anyone with more than one firing synapse knows that creepy Joe lies glibly about everything.

Lied to get through law school, FFS.

Set the bar any lower, and this would be a game of limbo.
snood
 
  2  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 06:39 pm
For Donald Trump to win this year, he has to recreate the perfect storm - the inside straight - the lightning in a bottle- that happened for him in 2016. He will have to win in some of the same swing states whose electors will get him over the 270 electoral college mark again. He should at the very least be winning on his favorite polls like Fox and Quinnipiac, which right now show him trailing or in a dead heat.

Can he do it? Well, we’ll know before too long.

Right now, over 14 MILLION people have already cast their votes. This is exponentially higher than the number on October 15, 2016. I think that the vast majority of these people, rushing to their polling places, standing in line sometimes all day long, are deeply, passionately motivated to vote the republicans the **** out.


I’m going to be one of the first in line tomorrow morning to vote early in NC.

MontereyJack
 
  0  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 06:44 pm
@Builder,
compare those baseless suppositions about biden with the over 20000 documented lies, distortions, mistruths and outright fantasies and pure evidenceless inventions of the resident in chief.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 06:53 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

For Donald Trump to win this year, he has to recreate the perfect storm - the inside straight - the lightning in a bottle- that happened for him in 2016. He will have to win in some of the same swing states whose electors will get him over the 270 electoral college mark again. He should at the very least be winning on his favorite polls like Fox and Quinnipiac, which right now show him trailing or in a dead heat.

Can he do it? Well, we’ll know before too long.

Right now, over 14 MILLION people have already cast their votes. This is exponentially higher than the number on October 15, 2016. I think that the vast majority of these people, rushing to their polling places, standing in line sometimes all day long, are deeply, passionately motivated to vote the republicans the **** out.


I’m going to be one of the first in line tomorrow morning to vote early in NC.



There is no passion in the Biden campaign. We hear there is and we see nothing. Why is that?

And what makes you think they are not in line all day to vote for Trump? The word is out that Democrats will cheat and that motivates Trump voters.
snood
 
  1  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 06:57 pm
@coldjoint,
I guess we’ll see.
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Builder
 
  0  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 07:09 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
compare those baseless suppositions about biden ...snip


Like I said; not an original thought in his head.

Quote:
Presumptive Democratic Party presidential nominee Joe Biden has a serious problem: His compulsive plagiarism has gotten out of control.

As is clearly evident from his new policy platform, the former vice president just can't stop stealing original ideas from other politicians—a rather worrying sign for someone whose mental fitness for the pressures of the presidency has already come under serious scrutiny.

Biden's "Made in America" doctrine—which calls for increased government purchases from U.S. producers—is strikingly similar to President Trump's own America First economic platform. In fact, it's almost identical to the executive order the president signed a full year ago prioritizing the purchasing of American-made products and the hiring of American workers by government agencies.


https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-plagiarism-danger-america-opinion-1518399
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 07:15 pm
@Builder,
If we're talking plagiarism, Trump stole the idea from Hoover: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buy_American_Act
Builder
 
  0  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 07:39 pm
@neptuneblue,
Did you bother reading your link?> applies only to mass-transit-related procurements valued over US$100,000 and funded at least in part by federal grants
neptuneblue
 
  3  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 07:42 pm
@Builder,
You're making it sound as if Trump "owns" the concept -- he does not. It's been around in different forms for a very long time. You criticize Biden yet don't think Trump didn't do the very same thing.
Builder
 
  0  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 07:52 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
You're making it sound as if Trump "owns" the concept


Outsourcing was the name of the game, and your president has made good on his election promise to turn that around. Biden was part of the team that in eight years, did nothing to turn it around.

He lied about Burisma, and we now have evidence of that, as if Joe bragging on camera about it, wasn't proof enough. So guess who will be impeached, if there's enough retarded people crazy enough to gift him a presidency?
coldjoint
 
  1  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 07:54 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

If we're talking plagiarism, Trump stole the idea from Hoover: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buy_American_Act

An idea is not the words of someone else. Quit trying to change the rules because it is Trump. When Trump says "a chicken in every pot" let me know
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 14 Oct, 2020 07:57 pm
@Builder,
Quote:

He lied about Burisma, and we now have evidence of that

Evidence Facebook is censoring and the networks are not covering.[/ I got news for these people, anyone in politics for 47 years is corrupt as they come.[/color]
neptuneblue
 
  3  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 07:57 pm
@Builder,
False:

FACT SHEET: President Obama’s Blueprint to Support U.S. Manufacturing Jobs, Discourage Outsourcing, and Encourage Insourcing

In his State of the Union address, President Obama laid out a Blueprint for an America Built to Last, encouraging companies to create manufacturing jobs in the United States while removing deductions for shipping jobs overseas and encouraging insourcing. During the past two years, we have begun to see positive signs in American manufacturing – with the manufacturing sector adding more than 300,000 jobs since December 2009, with companies engaging in the emerging trend of “insourcing” by bringing jobs back and making additional investments in the United States. Manufacturing jobs are growing for the first time since the late 1990s.

The proposals the President is describing today are designed to build on this progress. They include six proposals that Congress should act on immediately to encourage job growth in the United States and that are fully paid for by closing tax loopholes that encourage the shifting of jobs and shielding of profits overseas. The President is also calling for Congress to extend current temporary tax incentives this year to bring more certainty to the near-term economy and for fundamental tax reform that would encourage more investment in America with a new international minimum tax, a lower rate for American manufacturing, and a simpler, broader tax code.

The President is proposing the following revenue-neutral reform package to support manufacturing, discourage outsourcing, and encourage insourcing that Congress should act on immediately:

1. Removing tax deductions for shipping jobs overseas and providing new incentives for bringing them back home (revenue neutral): The tax code currently allows companies moving operations overseas to deduct their moving expenses – and reduce their taxes in the United States as a result. The President is proposing to change that. These deductions will be denied, and companies will no longer be provided deductions for moving their operations abroad. At the same time, the President is proposing to give a 20 percent income tax credit for the expenses of moving operations back into the United States to help companies bring jobs home.

 For example: If a company was closing a plant to move that plant overseas and incurred $1 million in expenses – ranging from the cost of scrapping equipment to shipping physical capital to clean up costs – it could right now deduct those expenses, and get a tax reduction of $350,000 (assuming the firm faces the 35 percent statutory tax rate). The President proposes to eliminate this tax deduction. And, if a corporation moving jobs to the U.S. incurred similar expenses, the President proposes to provide that company with a tax credit of $200,000 to help offset these costs and encourage investment here at home.

2. Targeting the domestic production incentive on manufacturers who create jobs here at home and doubling the deduction for advanced manufacturing (revenue neutral): In conjunction with the President’s broader commitment to corporate tax reform, the Administration is proposing measures to provide incentives for manufacturing in the United States. The Administration is proposing to reform the current deduction for domestic production by more narrowly focusing it on manufacturing activities—for example, it would no longer cover oil production. These savings would be invested in expanding the deduction for manufacturers and doubling for advanced manufacturing technologies from its current level of 9 percent to 18 percent.

3. Introducing a new Manufacturing Communities Tax Credit to encourage investments in communities affected by job loss ($6 billion in credits): The President is proposing a new credit for qualified investments that help finance projects in communities that have suffered a major job loss event. This credit will provide $2 billion per year in incentives for three years. For this purpose, a major job loss event occurs when a military base closes or a major employer closes or substantially reduces a facility or operating unit, resulting in permanent mass layoffs. The tax credit would support qualified investments in this affected community – made in conjunction with State Economic Development Agencies and other local entities – that improve local economic growth.

4. Providing temporary tax credits to drive nearly $20 billion in domestic clean energy manufacturing ($5 billion in credits): The President is proposing to extend tax credits to drive nearly $20 billion of investment in domestic clean energy manufacturing, ensuring new windmills and solar panels will incorporate parts that are produced and assembled by American workers. This Advanced Energy Manufacturing Tax Credit – which was oversubscribed more than three times over – goes to investments in clean energy manufacturing in the United States. The additional $5 billion in tax credits the President is proposing will leverage nearly $20 billion in total investment in the United States.

5. Reauthorizing 100% expensing of investment in plants and equipment ($4 billion): The President is proposing to extend for all of 2012 a provision that allows businesses to expense the full cost of their investments in equipment, spurring investment in the United States. Over the next two years, this would provide businesses large and small with $50 billion in tax relief, with much of that recovered by the Treasury in subsequent years.

6. Closing a loophole that allows companies to shift profits overseas (raises $23 billion): Corporations right now can abuse the tax system by inappropriately shifting profits overseas from intangible property created in the United States. The President is proposing to close this loophole.

At the same time as the President is calling for immediate enactment of this plan, he is also pushing forward on a framework for corporate tax reform that would encourage even greater investment in the United States, while eliminating tax advantages for outsourcing. This framework will include:

o Making companies pay a minimum tax for profits and jobs overseas and investing the savings in cutting taxes here at home, especially for manufacturing: The President is proposing to eliminate tax incentives to ship jobs offshore by ensuring that all American companies pay a minimum tax on their overseas profits, preventing other countries from attracting American business through unusually low tax rates. The savings would be invested in cutting taxes here at home, especially for manufacturing.

o Making permanent an expanded Research and Experimentation Tax Credit: The President has proposed to make permanent the Research and Experimentation Tax Credit, while enhancing and simplifying the credit. About 70 percent of the benefit directly supports jobs in the United States, and every dollar spent encourages U.S.-based investment, as only research and experimentation performed in the United States is eligible.

o Simplify the tax code and close loopholes: Over the nearly three decades since the last comprehensive reform effort, the tax system has been loaded up with special deductions, credits, and other tax expenditures that help well-connected special interests, but do little for our Nation’s economic growth. The President’s framework will close these loopholes and simplify the tax code so businesses can focus on investing and creating jobs rather than filling out tax forms.

Building on Progress

• Providing tax incentives to help businesses grow and invest: Building off earlier measures, the President signed into law a provision that allowed businesses, both large and small, to immediately write off 100% of the costs of new investment in equipment in the United States. This is among the 17 tax cuts the President has signed into law for small businesses, including measures that temporarily eliminated capital gains taxes on key small business investments and raised expensing limits for small firms.

• Providing tax incentives to support domestic investment in clean energy technology manufacturing: The Recovery Act’s Advanced Energy Manufacturing Tax Credit provided $2.3 billion in incentives that catalyzed an additional $5.4 billion in private sector investment in projects to manufacture the next generation of solar, wind, geothermal, vehicle, energy efficiency, and other clean energy technologies.

• Temporary tax cuts to increase investment and jobs: The President has signed into law $200 billion in tax relief and incentives for America’s businesses to encourage them to make new investments and create new jobs – relief that was paid out over the last three years. This includes provisions that directly benefit those businesses that did the most to boost investment and hiring.

• Cracking down on overseas tax avoidance and loopholes: The President has taken strong steps to crack down on overseas tax evasion and loopholes – measures that will save billions of dollars over the next decade and make sure that everyone plays by the same rules. This includes signing into law the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, which targets tax evasion by U.S. citizens holding investments in foreign accounts, as well as measures to crack down on abuse of foreign tax credits through games that allowed multinational companies to inappropriately reduce the amount of taxes they paid here at home.
Builder
 
  -1  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 08:23 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Evidence Facebook is censoring and the networks are not covering


Twitter is closing accounts of reporters trying to share it. Gotta love the land of the free, home of the brave, huh?
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 08:23 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
FACT SHEET: President Obama’s Blueprint to Support U.S. Manufacturing Jobs, Discourage Outsourcing, and Encourage Insourcing

They are not facts when they did not happen.
Builder
 
  0  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 08:31 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
They are not facts when they did not happen.


State of the Union speech only.

Obama's legacy, is that the shining light of North Africa, is now a gateway for criminal invasion of Europe, and slave trading is happening in the city centre.

Gadaffi predicted what happens. and Obama says he regrets it, but did nothing about it.
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neptuneblue
 
  2  
Wed 14 Oct, 2020 08:32 pm
@coldjoint,
It sure did. In fact, Trump relied on it:

Trump follows Obama’s political blueprint

Nobody wants to admit it, but the new president’s early moves look a lot like the old president’s.

By BLAKE HOUNSHELL AND DANIEL LIPPMAN 12/8/16, 8:24 AM CET Updated 12/9/16, 3:08 PM CET

I’ll protect your livelihoods, the newly elected president promised factory employees whose jobs were in danger.

I’ll save you money by rejecting a costly overhaul of my own aircraft, he told taxpayers a couple of weeks later.

I’ll spend billions to repair the country’s crumbling roads and bridges, creating jobs in the process, he told Congress.

I’ll sell my agenda by using the bully pulpit, he told the press, holding rallies around the country and shaming corporate greed that comes at the expense of ordinary people. And to do it all, he would set up a new political organization to pressure anyone who refused to play along.

His opponents were horrified, and said he was abusing the power of the Oval Office.

The year was 2009. The new president was Barack Obama.

Flash forward to today: Donald Trump is following much the same political blueprint his predecessor and longtime adversary laid out years ago, signaling he’ll actively intervene in the U.S. economy while antagonizing free-marketeers who say his meddling will end in disaster. It’s a funhouse-mirror version of Obama’s early image of the presidency — the man of action for down-and-out Americans who desperately want to see that somebody is on their side.

Only this time, Democrats aren’t hailing the president-to-be’s efforts as a needed corrective to capitalism run amok. And Republicans, aside from a principled few, aren’t quoting from dog-eared copies of The Road to Serfdom to warn of impending socialist tyranny. The parties have almost completely reversed positions in response to Trump, testament to the Death Star-like pull of Washington partisanship.

The situations are, of course, vastly different: Obama was inheriting an economy in freefall, with the economy losing 500,000 jobs a month, while Trump enters office with an unemployment rate of just 4.6 percent. As is the message: Obama spoke of building a high-tech economy for the future; Trump vows to bring back the jobs of yesteryear. And the style: Trump threatens punishment; Obama tried persuasion. And Obama waited until he was president to launch his program, while Trump is firing his salvos before he has even been sworn in.

Still, the superficial parallels are striking: Trump cut a deal with Carrier to keep jobs from going to Mexico, much like Obama asked the CEO of Caterpillar to halt planned layoffs. Trump said a planned upgrade of Air Force One was a waste of money, while Obama said he didn’t need expensive new Marine One helicopters. Trump wants a $1 trillion infrastructure package, while Obama eventually settled for $830 billion. Trump has launched a “thank you tour” of states he won, while Obama stumped for his stimulus bill. And both men believed in the need to set up an external political arm — Obama for America vs. Trump’s reported Unleash the Potential — to keep their grass-roots bases fired up and ready to go.

The details may differ, but the political calculations are eerily similar — so much so that the president’s former campaign and White House guru, David Axelrod, has recognized the potency of Trump’s economic showmanship.

“Without knowing details of what was promised, any fair reading is that the Carrier intervention is a good early win for @realDonaldTrump,” Axelrod tweeted on Dec. 1. And again on Tuesday, sharing the results of a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll that showed Trump’s interventions meeting with overwhelming public approval, he commented: “When I said, whatever the wisdom as policy, this was smart politics, a bunch of folks got their knickers in a knot.”

But Obama never got much credit for his own theatrical efforts to save Rust Belt jobs. As the Huffington Post’s Sam Stein has noted, one of his first acts as president-elect was going to Elkhart, Indiana, to sell his stimulus package as a solution to the nation’s economic ills. At the time, Elkhart was reeling from the aftershocks of the financial recession, on top of decades of industrial change and global competition.

The stimulus passed, and some of the money flowed to Elkhart. But in 2012, the area voted for Mitt Romney, and it went for Donald Trump in 2016. When he started calling around, Stein found that few in the town had any idea that the president’s policies had helped them.

It was a similar story in East Peoria, Illinois, where Obama delivered his version of the Carrier deal in a speech to employees of Caterpillar, the construction equipment company. If Congress passed the stimulus, Obama declared, “a new wave of innovation, activity and construction will be unleashed all across America.” “Think about all the work out there to be done,” he said. “And Caterpillar will be selling the equipment that does the work.” (In an embarrassing moment for the White House, Caterpillar’s then-CEO Jim Owens denied afterward that he had promised the president he wouldn’t lay off workers.)

Again, the political payoff never came. Months earlier, John McCain had won the surrounding county, Tazewell, with 52 percent of the vote, but Obama made a respectable showing at 46 percent. The president later took credit for Caterpillar bringing back jobs from Japan, but the company kept shedding workers and racking up losses as the world economy sputtered. And in the elections to come, Democrats actually lost ground: In 2012, Romney won Tazewell County with nearly 58 percent of the vote; Trump carried it in 2016 with 61 percent.

As Obama pushed the stimulus, along with a massive bailout of the auto industry, as the best way to getting the U.S. economy going again, Republicans trashed his activism. Richard Shelby, then the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee, said Obama’s policies would lead to “financial disaster.” The Republican National Committee passed a resolution declaring that Obama and congressional Democrats had put the country on the road to socialism. Romney wrote a New York Times op-ed infamously headlined “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”

Today, most Republicans have either welcomed Trump’s actions or stayed silent, reluctant to criticize a president from their own party — especially when his moves are proving popular. It’s fallen to Democrats, in a tacit alliance with lonely conservative voices like The Wall Street Journal editorial page and former vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, to rip the president-elect’s interventions as “crony capitalism.”

Former Obama aides scoff at the comparisons to their old boss, pointing out that Trump seems to be lurching from tweet to tweet without a coherent plan.

“President Obama was in office when these happened and had already begun to lay out a comprehensive economic strategy, including a very specific economic recovery package that was working its way through Congress at the time,” said Dan Pfeiffer, Obama’s former communications director.

“The Carrier episode is definitely different in that it is not about illustrating a national policy,” said Austan Goolsbee, a former White House economic adviser. “Indeed, doing Carrier on a national basis would raise a bunch of serious problems.”

Bill Burton, a former deputy White House press secretary, said he understood the appeal of Trump’s deal-by-deal approach. “For any newly elected president, the obvious place to start is looking at some individual companies who have individual problems and making individual efforts to help them,” he said.

But once Trump actually takes office and becomes responsible for the entire economy, Burton said, it becomes “less practical to fight company by company to make meaningful impact.”

Trump and Obama have vastly different views of globalization, other Democrats noted: One looks for ways to mitigate the downsides of trade; the other aims to roll it back.

“One of the problems with Trump is he has a very nostalgic vision for a time that’s not coming back. Obama’s more realistic than that,” said Jared Bernstein, former chief economist for Vice President Joe Biden.

But none of the former Obama aides denied the political wisdom of Trump’s copycat strategy, even as they questioned his intentions and ability to execute.

“You can bet behind the scenes that [Treasury pick Steven] Mnuchin and the whole Trump team are putting together what is going to be a spectacularly right-wing approach to the economy,” Burton said.

“Anytime a president gets caught saving jobs, it’s a great day for that president,” added Bernstein. “Whether it’s smart economic policy is a different question.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-follows-barack-obamas-political-blueprint/
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MontereyJack
 
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Wed 14 Oct, 2020 08:35 pm
@coldjoint,
trump was completely corrupt from his years in business. NY real estate people are not known for squeaky cleanness. He's just gotten swampier as a politician.
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MontereyJack
 
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Wed 14 Oct, 2020 08:38 pm
@Builder,
since viden will hold the house, and the senate will flip, triump will go to leavenworth and biden will restore the country.
 

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