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snood
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:


I use "pandemic" in the original meaning of the word, just as the term is used outside the USA. My bad.


I know where you’re trying to go with this. But in fairness, the definition of a pandemic is a disease that is prevalent in the whole world or in a whole country.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:11 am
@farmerman,
Said when my great, great, great great grandfather (Charles Slaughter Morehead) was governor of Kentucky. He was elected a the Whig/Know Nothing Party candidate (became Republicans), he was pro-slavery, anti-secessionist, Lincoln had him thrown into prison when Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus rights.

A nephew of his was a Sargent in the Ohio Volunteers and lost his life and won a Congressional Medal of Honor for his part in the Andersonville Raid (The Great Train Chase).
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MontereyJack
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:14 am
@oralloy,
No. they did it because he used the force of his office for his own ends, not the good of the country. Fully deserved. And trump has had eight months to work on it and nothing to show for it but 210,000 deaths, increasing daily.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:16 am
@eurocelticyankee,
GREAT STUFF!
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:19 am
@Frank Apisa,
I’m on an iPad. I can’t post links.

I’ve made my point, I’m not going to spend the rest of my life trying to make you understand.

Region Philbis
 
  1  
Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:22 am
@MontereyJack,

his argument seems to be that trump doesn't have a high enough IQ to have handled an impeachment hearing and a pandemic at the same time...
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:23 am
@Region Philbis,
You’ve got to admit, that’s a bloody good point.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:24 am
@Region Philbis,
That's my thought, too. Surely he wasn't worried that McConnell was going to do the right thing.
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engineer
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:25 am
Just read that the second debate was going virtual and Trump pulled out.

Quote:
President Donald Trump said he won’t participate in next week’s presidential debate after organizers announced it would be held virtually “in order to protect the health and safety of all involved.”

Trump, still recovering from COVID-19, said the debate format change announced earlier Thursday by the Commission on Presidential Debates was unacceptable.

“I’m not going to waste my time on a virtual debate,” the president, in a hoarse voice, told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo in a phone interview.

The debate commission said the next event would take place Oct. 15 in a town hall format as previously planned, but each candidate will participate remotely. Town hall participants and the debate moderator, C-SPAN anchor Steve Scully, will attend in person at the debate venue in Miami.

Biden’s campaign said he will participate and “looks forward to speaking directly to the American people and comparing his plan for bringing the country together and building back better with Donald Trump’s failed leadership on the coronavirus.”
bobsal u1553115
 
  0  
Thu 8 Oct, 2020 07:27 am
@engineer,
Milania wanted him to pull out, too. About the debate she really didn't care.
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oristarA
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 08:43 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

Just read that the second debate was going virtual and Trump pulled out.


Here's a situation of "Serious Science vs. Political Passion". Trump has fallen in the grip of political passion while Biden actively follows serious science.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 08:52 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I’m on an iPad. I can’t post links.

I’ve made my point, I’m not going to spend the rest of my life trying to make you understand.




Whatever. If you ever get to a computer...let me know what "point" you suppose you have made.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 08:54 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:


Just read that the second debate was going virtual and Trump pulled out.

Quote:
President Donald Trump said he won’t participate in next week’s presidential debate after organizers announced it would be held virtually “in order to protect the health and safety of all involved.”

Trump, still recovering from COVID-19, said the debate format change announced earlier Thursday by the Commission on Presidential Debates was unacceptable.

“I’m not going to waste my time on a virtual debate,” the president, in a hoarse voice, told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo in a phone interview.

The debate commission said the next event would take place Oct. 15 in a town hall format as previously planned, but each candidate will participate remotely. Town hall participants and the debate moderator, C-SPAN anchor Steve Scully, will attend in person at the debate venue in Miami.

Biden’s campaign said he will participate and “looks forward to speaking directly to the American people and comparing his plan for bringing the country together and building back better with Donald Trump’s failed leadership on the coronavirus.”



No way Trump will participate in a debate where his ability to disrupt rather than actually debate...will be limited.

Two rooms...ability to cut off a mike being abused...is not Trump's cup of tea. He would have to actually know something...which he doesn't.
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snood
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 09:02 am
I think Trump is afraid of a debate format he can’t bully his way through.

On the other hand, his pathological ego might not allow him to just sit and Tweet if Biden decides to do a solo town hall and have the stage all to himself.
bobsal u1553115
 
  0  
Thu 8 Oct, 2020 09:11 am
@snood,
I heard him make his refusal on Fox, his big complaint was the ability of moderators would cut him off once his time was over.

He sounded pretty damn sick to me, like walking pneumonia. I do not want him to die. Mike Pence is a dangerous little ****.
oristarA
 
  1  
Thu 8 Oct, 2020 09:20 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

He sounded pretty damn sick to me, like walking pneumonia. I do not want him to die.


This president is unnecessarily risking his life, and then risking other people's lives, out of ignorance of science;
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tsarstepan
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 09:31 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

I think Trump is afraid of a debate format he can’t bully his way through.

On the other hand, his pathological ego might not allow him to just sit and Tweet if Biden decides to do a solo town hall and have the stage all to himself.

I think Trump is angry he cannot infect Biden with COVID. In Trump's eyes, only losers get infected with COVID. You can add up the 1 +1 formula to figure what he really thinks of himself.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 09:34 am
Get ready: the sock master is lurking but not posting!!!
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coluber2001
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 10:54 am
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump
by Bandy  Lee, M. D.
©2017

Why "Crazy like a Fox" Versus "Crazy Like a Crazy" Really Matters
Delusional disorder, admiration of brutal dictators, the nuclear codes, and Trup
           by J. Tansey, PH.D.


Pp. 110-124
Delusional Disorder:

Delusions are beliefs that exist despite indisputable, factual evidence to the contrary.

Delusions are held with absolute certainty, despite their falsity and impossibility.

Delusions can have a variety of themes, including grandeur and persecution.

Delusions are not of the bizarre variety but, rather, seem like ordinary figures of speech except that each word is meant literally.

Delusional people tend to be extremely thin-skinned and humorless, especially regarding their delusions.

Delusions are central to the person's existence, and questioning them elicits a jolting and visceral reaction.

Delusional disorder is chronic, even lifelong, and tends to worsen in adulthood, middle-aged, and beyond.

Words and actions are consistent and logical if the basic premise of the delusion is accepted as reality: "Because I am superior to all, it follows that I would never apologize because I am never wrong."

General logical reasoning and behavior are unaffected unless they are very specifically related to the delusion.

The person has a heightened sense of self-reverence and trivial events assume outsize importance when they contradict or, conversely, support the delusional belief making trivial events, whether positive or negative, hard to let go of and move past.

Delusional disorder may help us make sense of the last 5 minutes of DT's CIA address (CNN videos 2017), which contain three staggering statements that lead us to think, "He can't possibly mean that." DT declared he was "1000 percent behind" the CIA, and accused the fake media, "some of the most dishonest people on the planet ... of making it sound like I had a feud" with the intelligence Community, when the truth is the "exact opposite." Anyone in the audience with a cellphone who doubted his own memory could instantly have Googled DT's innumerable tweets about the incompetence and dishonesty of the "so-called intelligence Community," a position he has since reverted to. Did DT actually believe that the truth was defined by his words and not hard facts to the contrary? Why would he merely lie despite knowing that each and every person in attendance knew there was not an iota of truth to the claim? His stunning falsehood lacks the shrewdness of the typical pathological liar. If he had been hooked up to a reliable lie detector test and were in fact delusional, he would have passed with flying colors because he literally believes every word he says, despite irrefutable facts to the contrary. He takes it as given that the world around him will conform to his own warped view of events, and that those who do not believe so are irrational enemies backed by the fake media.

A minute later in the speech, he described his disappointment that, as he began his inaugural address, it was raining, but then he claimed with a finger to the sky, "God looked down and said, 'We're not going to let it rain on your speech.' " He then insisted that the rain stopped immediately and it became "really sunny" before it "poured right after I left." ... the drizzle on inauguration day started as GT began to speak, and that it never got sunny. It never subsequently poured. Again, did he believe every word he was saying? If the answer is yes, this would be compelling evidence of underlying delusional disorder leaking through the veneer of normality.

He has claimed to know more than all the generals. He has said he has the best temperament of anyone ever to be president. He has bragged that, "and a moment like the world has never seen," he won the presidency by the greatest electoral Landslide since Reagan when, in fact, he trailed five of the previous seven electoral totals. The fact that he lost the popular vote by 3 million, because it does not comport with his grandiose delusions, he explains away by declaring that these votes were made by fraudulent voters, despite study after bipartisan study demonstrating at most a few thousand illegal vote votes nationwide. 

... if in fact DT harbors an underlying delusional disorder, from a clinical perspective, his delusions would likely be grandiose and paranoid in nature. This would help us to answer once and for all the questions of why, during the 2016 presidential campaign and beyond, DT has repeatedly and openly expressed admiration for Kim Jong-un of North Korea, Bashar al-Assad of Syria, Iraq's Saddam Hussein, and especially Vladimir Putin. There is considerable evidence to suggest that absolute tyranny is DT's wet dream. The unopposed dictator is the embodiment of the ability to demand adulation on the one hand and to eradicate all perceived enemies with the simplest nod of the head on the other.

He insisted that he will "bomb the **** out of ISIS" and order our soldiers to kill their presumed families. He repeatedly goaded supporters to rough up hecklers at his speeches and pontificated that NFL players who refuse to stand for the national anthem should find another country. He quoted Mussolini's  "better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep," and he expressed general bewilderment about why we build nuclear weapons if we don't use them.

Whether or not his admiration for despots derives from an underlying delusional disorder, grandiose and paranoid and nature, DT is drawn to leaders who already fit his fundamental personality makeup.

While anticipating the presidency, he looked for role models for how to preside, what they would look like, which leaders performed in ways that were inspiring. For Obama, it was Kennedy, Reagan, Dr. King, and Mandela. Bill Clinton turned to JFK; and Hillary to Eleanor Roosevelt. George W bush modeled his leadership to after Jesus and Winston Churchill. For DT, it was Hussein, Jong-unn, Assad, and Putin. Those guys know how to run a tight ship! P. 118

Far beyond his staggering affinity for monstrous tyrants, Trump, since coming to office, has railed against a critical free press; vilified millions of marching protesters as paid professional; denigrated our federal appeals Courts for throwing his Muslim travel ban as unconstitutional; abruptly fired 46 State Attorneys General; and, shockingly, fired FBI director James Comey for what DT brazenly admit it was Comey's ongoing investigation of potential collusion between Russia and the 2016 Trump campaign.

******



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BillW
 
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Thu 8 Oct, 2020 11:56 am
I see where theRump's Michigan fiasco has failed, hmmmmmmmmm!
 

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