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Wrong again. You are the only person that I am calling a liar.

What's "so true, so true", Bill? If whatever it is is so true, you must have some kind of evidence, right?

Both of you need to slow your roll.

I lost PEOPLE.

How is that less of a conversation about an argument over aluminum or steel?

You lost people. What of the countries that lost millions all because of the lies of the usa governments and the lies of us citizens?

You really do not have any clue about these issues, do you, NB?

neptune, neither one of them are worth it, they are both theRumpian - Narcissistic and ignorant. I have them botn on ignore for a reason!

Zero evidence oralloy. Molten aluminum is silvery in daylight. Leslie Robertson and all the firefighters know much more than oralloy will ever know.

oralloy keeps calling them liars when he has no knowledge of these events himself.

Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance. - Albert Einstein.

Come at me when you've lost someone, then we'll talk.

BillW admits to being just another cowardly american.

Not really. I was telling the truth. He wasn't.

You're not smart enough to tell the difference, but that doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.

Why are you such a coward? Why are you so unwilling to stand up for the one/s you lost?

You are the one who is savaging the victims. Who are you to talk about standing up for them?

If the past is a guide, you should get used to it.

oralloy tells oralloy truth which never has any evidence and always denies reality AND calls firefighters liars.

Perhaps you can explain the molten steel, Roger.

Leslie Robertson, a member of the engineering firm that designed the World Trade Center, said 21 days after the attack: “When we were down at the B1 level, one of the firefighters said, ‘I think you’d be interested in this,’ and they pulled up a big block of concrete and there was a, like a little river of steel, flowing.”

Oh.

So since you cannot convince Oralloy of your truthfulness, you attack my patriotism?

Not that there's much love lost between Oralloy and me, but I do have to say, he's besting you.

The truth is the truth.

Denying your delusions is not denying reality.

You are the only person that I am calling a liar.

Here is Leslie Robertson confirming in a video the quote I just gave you where he describes the molten steel that NYC firefighters showed him. This is the molten steel that oralloy has bald faced lied about/denied repeatedly when he has ZERO expertise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjmHqES_lto

What patriotism? Denying reality is American patriotism, is it?
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The evidence of molten steel or iron cannot be called “irrelevant,” given the fact that the building fires, as NIST pointed out, cannot explain it. The only explanation NIST suggested was that, if there was molten steel or iron, it would have been “due to the high temperature resulting from long exposure to combustion within the pile.” But NIST claimed that the buildings were brought down by building fires, which at most could have reached 1,000°C (1,832°F.) So the idea that burning debris from these buildings could have reached anywhere close to the temperature needed to melt structural steel (1,482°C, 2,700°F), [11] without the help of explosive or incendiary material, is implausible.
It is also unscientific. Physicist Steven Jones has written: “Are there any examples of buildings toppled by fires or any reason other than deliberate demolition that show large pools of molten metal in the rubble? I have posed this question to numerous engineers and scientists, but so far no examples have emerged. Strange then that three buildings in Manhattan, supposedly brought down finally by fires, all show these large pools of molten metal in their basements post-collapse on 9-11-2001. It would be interesting if underground fires could somehow produce large pools of molten steel, for example, but then there should be historical examples of this effect since there have been many large fires in numerous buildings. It is not enough to argue hypothetically that fires could possibly cause all three pools of orange-hot molten metal.” The fact that the pools of metal had an orange color was crucial, Jones explained, because something had raised the temperature of iron to more than 2,000°C (3,632°F). [12]

There were two types of evidence for molten steel or iron in the debris:
1. Physical evidence, which was presented in a 2002 report by FEMA and elsewhere.
2. Testimonial evidence from many credible witnesses, including firefighters and other professionals.

There was no molten steel or molten iron.