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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 08:36 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/SIAI0I4.jpg

Protest is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.
And as far as I could find out, being a lowlife, while unfavorable, is not a crime.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 08:44 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Don't be so dishonest. All Olivier did was lie about me.

And enough with your illegal downvote abuse.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  0  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 08:53 am
@Walter Hinteler,
He's trying to provoke "a different scene." He's inviting some of his followers to show up armed and fired up.

I thought it was a fake tweet when I first saw it.
Region Philbis
 
  2  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 09:07 am
@bobsal u1553115,

the lowlife-in-chief is stirring the **** again.

desperation sets in as he bashes his home state...
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 09:11 am
@Region Philbis,
Its a cynical, very dark desperation. One would think he'd take this opportunity to get off the hot seat and dump it on Joe Biden's capable lap.
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hightor
 
  2  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 09:17 am
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blatham
 
  4  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 09:59 am
Trump has now posted two fake/altered videos each of which claim to be real news or real accounts which claim to show that CNN is producing fake/altered video accounts. see here

This is a very dangerous strategy I did not see coming. The "fake news" mantra and its earlier iteration - biased liberal media - have been used to discredit any/all reporting which is critical of conservatism and GOP politicos and more generally to sew doubt and confusion and even hatred.

But as these videos are so easy to show as false and purposeful misrepresentations, the justification we'll see from the Trump people will be, "If they can produce fake news, so can we". And that gives full licence to any video or text distortions and fakery they might come up with. This is extremely dangerous, obviously.
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revelette1
 
  1  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 10:37 am
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President Trump’s campaign is under fire for employing a symbol once used by Nazis in a new batch of Facebook ads — a red inverted triangle that appeared alongside a warning about the dire threat posed by “antifa,” a loose motley group allied against neo-fascist activity.

An internal Department of Homeland Security document — which I obtained from a congressional source — makes the Trump campaign’s use of this symbol, and its justification for it, look a whole lot worse, by undercutting the claim that antifa represents any kind of threat in the first place.

After Facebook removed the ads amid an outcry, the Trump campaign continued to defend use of the image — which was used by Nazis to identify political prisoners — by claiming it’s a “common Antifa symbol.”

The suggestion, of course, is that the image is justified by the idea that it’s associated with antifa, so it’s merely a warning of a continuing menace to the country. “STOP ANTIFA,” the ads say, warning of “dangerous MOBS of far-left groups” that are “DESTROYING our cities.”

Meanwhile, Trump and his top officials have continued to blame unrest and violence at protests on antifa, to cast the violence more broadly as primarily left-wing in orientation.

But the DHS document I obtained undercuts this series of claims.

The document — which is an assessment of ongoing “protest-related” threats to law enforcement dated June 17 — makes no mention at all of antifa in its cataloging of those threats.

The DHS document states that “anarchist and anti-government extremists pose the most significant threat of targeted low-level, protest-related assaults against law enforcement.”

It bases this assessment on “the observed ideologies of recent attackers and the body of reporting of tactics noted by violent opportunists used over the last two weeks.”

Thus, as of this week, “anarchist and anti-government extremists” pose the most serious ongoing threat, according to Trump’s own Homeland Security department.

The document defines “anarchist extremists” as:

groups or individuals who facilitate or engage in acts of unlawful violence as a means of changing the government and society in support of the belief that all forms of capitalism and corporate globalization should be opposed and that governing institutions are unnecessary and harmful to society.
Not only does this document not name antifa, this description of generic “anarchist extremists” does not describe what we’ve come to understand “antifa” to be. While there might be some loose overlap between antifa and anarchists, antifa isn’t even a group, and adherents are characterized by specific resistance to perceived neo-fascist movements.

Meanwhile, the DHS document defines “anti-government extremists” as motivated by "their belief that their liberties are being taken away by the perceived unconstitutional or otherwise illegitimate actions of government officials or law enforcement.”

Obviously, that’s not antifa, either.

“This document shows that the government itself does not view antifa as a significant threat in the homeland,” Juliette Kayyem, a former DHS official who reviewed the document at my request, told me.

“The document shows how absurd the Trump campaign’s justification for using the symbol really is,” Kayyem added. “It undercuts their defense.”

The Anti-Defamation League has harshly criticized the Trump campaign for employing a symbol that “is practically identical to that used by the Nazi regime to classify political prisoners in concentration camps.”

Kayyem said the document is a bulletin customarily sent by DHS to “state and local law enforcement” to alert them as to “what they should be looking out for in terms of threats.”

The document also notes that “overall protest-related violence" has been "decreasing significantly during the last week,” which also undermines continued Trump fearmongering.

The document does assess that there may be “heightened” threats to law enforcement in coming days in the form of “exploitation of otherwise lawful protests” by “violent opportunists," and cites “white supremacist” and “black supremacist” extremists.

Notably, the continuing threat to law enforcement has been thrust to the forefront by the arrest of Steven Carrillo for the alleged killing of one security officer and the wounding of another. Carrillo is an alleged adherent of the “boogaloo boys,” an extremist movement trying to exploit protests to incite race war.

The DHS document actually does cite the “Boogaloo movement” as a threat in this context. It notes that Carrillo is likely associated with it, defining it as “a term used by some violent extremists from a variety of movements who seek to incite a race war or the collapse of society.”

And yet, according to CNN reporter Marshall Cohen, Trump has yet to mention this as a threat.

At the same time, the Trump campaign continues to cite antifa as a threat — and is using this to justify its use of that symbol in ads — even though an assessment from Trump’s own government doesn’t cast antifa as such.

Similarly, another leaked intelligence document earlier this month assessed the greatest threat as coming from “lone offenders with racially or ethnically motivated violent extremist ideologies,” not from antifa.

The new DHS document shows that the non-assessment of the threat of antifa hasn’t changed — even as the claims about antifa continue.

The broader story here, as Isaac Stanley-Becker details, is that the continued fearmongering about antifa by Trump and many top officials seems designed to distort the true nature of these multiracial, largely peaceful and broadly representative national protests in a very fundamental way.

There’s another pernicious angle here, too. As another former DHS official noted, this document cites the possibility of more attacks on law enforcement — but concerted distortions of what’s driving that threat are themselves destructive to efforts to combat them.

“Attributing the risk to one group (or mischaracterizing its structure) is dangerous, because it misses the holistic nature of the problem, excludes those that do present a danger and ultimately, puts law enforcement at increased risk,” this official told me.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/19/leaked-document-makes-trumps-use-nazi-era-symbol-look-worse/

Boogaloo Movement Tied To Murder, Violence And Disinformation During Protests

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According to Blackbird, traffic on one of the Boogaloo movement’s prime social network boards, 4Chan, exploded immediately after the death of a black man, George Floyd, in police custody in Minneapolis.

The Blackbird report describes members of the Boogaloo movement as being middle-aged, well-off heavily-armed white men who are engaged in a number of activities such as spreading anti-mask conspiracies. The show up armed at otherwise peaceful protests typically wearing Hawaiian “Aloha” shirts. Several reports say that these groups use peaceful protests to cover their violent activities including arson and looting in an effort to start what they call a second civil war.

The federal complaint, filed by FBI Special Agent Brett Woolard, lists evidence linking Carrillo to the Boogaloo movement, including a ballistic vest with a Boogaloo patch as well as slogans written on the hood of a stolen car in his own blood. Carrillo is currently in federal custody.

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2020 10:46 am
David Corn: John Bolton Provides a Harrowing Portrait of Trump's Surrender to Putin
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/06/john-bolton-provides-a-harrowing-portrait-of-trumps-surrender-to-putin/

John Bolton Provides a Harrowing Portrait of Trump’s Surrender to Putin
His book offers more evidence that Trump won’t stop a Russian attack on 2020.
David Corn
Washington, DC, Bureau ChiefBio | Follow



John Bolton’s too-late book has produced a string of revelations that warrant headlines and outrage. President Donald Trump, in this account, encouraged Chinese President Xi Jinping to build concentration camps as part of China’s genocidal war on its Uighur population. Trump beseeched Xi to help him win reelection in 2020. He displayed brazen ignorance. (He didn’t know the United Kingdom is a nuclear power or that Finland is not part of Russia.) And he did indeed withhold military aid to pressure the Ukrainian president—for which he was impeached—to launch investigations to tar Joe Biden and promote a nutty conspiracy theory that holds that Ukraine, not Russia, hacked the 2016 presidential election. Receiving less attention than these made-for-Twitter disclosures is what Bolton says about Trump’s response to Vladimir Putin’s attack on that election. But this stuff is important, for here is yet another indication that Trump has no interest in thwarting a Kremlin assault on the current election.

According to Trump’s own top intelligence officials, Moscow is currently trying to intervene in the 2020 campaign. Both FBI Director Chris Wray and Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe have said so in congressional testimony, without providing details about the ongoing covert Russian efforts. So one obvious question is, what is Trump doing about this? The answer, per Bolton, is nothing.

In his book, Bolton does not go into great depth on this crucial matter. But Trump’s former national security adviser notes that Trump “willfully ignored or denied that Russia was meddling globally in US and many other elections.” This is the public posture Trump has taken since the 2016 election and through his years in the White House. He has downplayed or dismissed the Russian attack, even though the US intelligence community has concluded it occurred and was mounted by Vladimir Putin in part to help Trump win. (A recent Senate Intelligence Committee report cited an intelligence intercept of a communication from a Russian cyber-operative who described Election Night this way: “On November 9, 2016, a sleepless night was ahead of us. And when around 8 a.m. the most important result of our work arrived, we uncorked a tiny bottle of champagne…took one gulp each and looked into each other’s eyes…We uttered almost in unison: ‘We made America great.'”) Still, even in the privacy of the Oval Office, Trump would not discuss with his top national security aide the Russian intervention—or, worse, the prospect of a repeat performance.

“Trump believed that acknowledging Russia’s meddling in US politics, or in that of many other countries in Europe and elsewhere, would implicitly acknowledge that he had colluded with Russia in his 2016 campaign,” Bolton writes.

Overall, the book illuminates Trump’s foremost sin: He has repeatedly placed his own personal interests ahead of the national security of the United States. Bolton could not even have an honest and straightforward conversation with Trump about this. In one chilling passage, Bolton recounts that he not once spoke candidly with Trump regarding Putin: “He never offered an opinion [of Putin], at least in front of me. I never asked what Trump’s view was, perhaps afraid of what I might hear.”

When the national security adviser to the president cannot talk to the commander in chief about a paramount threat to the country, it is a sign that neither one of them should continue in their jobs.
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hightor
 
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Fri 19 Jun, 2020 11:47 am
I'd like to see Black Lives Matter, and groups that partner with them to fight racism and agitate for social justice, develop and organize a common popular response to police brutality and other incidents of racism. Instead of milling around and forming impromptu demonstrations which are easily manipulated by troublemakers and looters, there should be some sort of "Plan B". What about a well-organized, disciplined march to City Hall in broad daylight followed by an announcement of particular businesses to be boycotted and those to be patronized, and the formation of a citizen's group to meet with municipal government? The riots, the images of neighborhoods on fire, and the stories of provocateurs shouldn't be the first thing that pops into the average person's mind when they hear about a protest against racism. These play right into the hands of the MAGA-tards, and I don't think that unorganized, spontaneous rebellions are that constructive.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 12:01 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
police brutality and other incidents of racism.

What makes you think police brutality is always racist?
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 01:37 pm
Quote:
A Black Liberal Is Nothing But A House N-gro… She tells it and names names too… clip

A young Black woman tells the truth. Watch the video.
https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/06/19/a-black-liberal-is-nothing-but-a-house-n-gro-she-tells-it-and-names-names-too-clip/?utm_source=whatfinger
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hightor
 
  4  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 01:41 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
What makes you think police brutality is always racist?

I don't; it isn't. We saw plenty of people of all races being pepper-sprayed and shot with rubber bullets. But that was a protest on the verge of turning into a violent mob; anyone who was there was considered fair game by police officers, some of whom were out of control. If we had better data we could look at how many times white suspects are shot in the back while fleeing, how many white detainees get put in lethal choke holds for non-violent criminal acts, how many white drivers are stopped, harassed, frisked, cuffed, and jailed for having a taillight out. It is commonly believed that black citizens are treated differently — anecdotal evidence and a steady flow of horrifying news stories backs this up. There are reasons for this and some of them are quasi-legitimate, but racism undergirds the phenomenon. Not individual acts of racism but centuries-old systemic discrimination which has relegated black citizens to 2nd class status. It was — and remains — conscious, purposeful, and ubiquitous. It makes a mockery of the ideals which supposedly guide this country.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 01:44 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
I don't; it isn't.

That is not what you said.
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 01:54 pm
@hightor,
I think the point he's trying to knit up is "if cops kills whites illegally than the illegal killing of blacks can't possibly be racist." Not thinking that if what he's saying is true, he's admitting there's a real problem with out of control cops. Which he also denies. Such a conflicted little brain.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 02:01 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb061920dAPC20200619044527.jpg
Maybe we should defund our universities.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 02:02 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz061920dAPR20200619044526.jpg
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 02:25 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/cb061720dAPR20200617114510.jpg
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revelette1
 
  1  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 02:37 pm
@hightor,
Wish I could put stars and multiple thumbs up for this post. You stated what everyone has been trying to articulate what these protest rallies mean very well. It shouldn't be that hard to grasp. I think those that pretend not to understand or put up stupid arguments know better, they just want to deny it so that it will continue.
roger
 
  1  
Fri 19 Jun, 2020 02:45 pm
@revelette1,
Yes, but is doesn't have to be involve mass protests. It (brutality) can also occur in the more or less ordinary course of normal police.
 

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