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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 09:40 am
Does anyone else suspect that Roberts is sensing that the reputation of the SC is presently in significant danger? Perhaps even that the rapidly changing political/ideological environment may well lead to a successful project to add two new members to the body?

Edit: this guy has perhaps a better take (and he's smarter than me)
Quote:
Adam SerwerSpaghetti
@AdamSerwer
1h
Since the census case, Roberts has taken a a very dim view of the Trump administration’s bad faith. It matters to him a lot.
Region Philbis
 
  3  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 09:42 am
Quote:
Trump Can’t Immediately End DACA, Supreme Court Rules

The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the Trump administration may not immediately proceed with its plan to end a program protecting about 700,000 young immigrants known as Dreamers from deportation.

The court’s ruling was a blow to one of President Trump’s central campaign promises — that as president he would “immediately terminate” an executive order by former President Barack Obama that Mr. Trump had called an illegal executive amnesty for hundreds of thousands of young immigrants.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote the majority opinion, joined by the court’s four more liberal members in upholding the program, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA.

“We do not decide whether DACA or its rescission are sound policies,” the chief justice wrote. “We address only whether the agency complied with the procedural requirement that it provide a reasoned explanation for its action.”
(keep reading the NYT)
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 09:43 am
Quote:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· 30m
Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn’t like me?
Everything is about him, as always.
Region Philbis
 
  2  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 09:45 am
@blatham,

i get the impression that NOBODY likes The Dotard...
blatham
 
  1  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 09:51 am
@Region Philbis,
As Charles Pierce replied to Trump's post
"They aren't the only ones, Ace"
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Lash
 
  1  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:06 am
@hightor,
One does wonder.
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Lash
 
  0  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:09 am
@izzythepush,
There’s plenty of blood in the streets.
It doesn’t matter what I admit or deny. People create their own narratives about me, as you do.
This country is corrupt.
You’re lucky you don’t live here.
My beliefs and observations are exactly the same as progressives in the US.

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Lash
 
  -3  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:11 am
@hightor,
The DNC cheating the election in 16 is relevant to the DNC cheating elections.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Pack, a conservative film-maker and ally of right-wing ideologue Stephen Bannon,

That rates a "so what". Bannon has not broken any laws and some of his views are in line with Trump's. Right wing people belong in government as much as Left wing people do. Trump can appoint who he wants.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:21 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
they are worried about statues of Confederate traitors

No, they are worried about history. Erasing history is erasing the culture. It is how ISIS does things.
revelette1
 
  3  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:25 am
@blatham,
It is a little surprising. I doubt it will last, most specifically when election cases comes to the Supreme Court.

But isn't finished.

Quote:
But the future of the program—and the fate of those in it—remains uncertain.

“We do not decide whether DACA or its rescission are sound policies,” Roberts wrote in the 5-4 decision. “We address only whether the agency complied with the procedural requirement that it provide a reasoned explanation for its action.”


https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/18/nation/supreme-court-rejects-trump-bid-end-legal-protections-daca-recipients/
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hightor
 
  5  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:40 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Erasing history is erasing the culture.

Removing a statue which celebrates a culture of enslavement and racism doesn't "erase" anything. The history of the Civil War is well-known and extensively documented. It doesn't simply disappear because a statue which celebrates a racist cause is removed from a prominent location and tucked away into a "Museum of Racism".
InfraBlue
 
  3  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:43 am
@izzythepush,
Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?
Remember how she said that
We would meet again
Some sunny day?
Vera, Vera!
What has become of you?
Does anybody else in here feel the way I do?
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:47 am
@hightor,
Quote:

Removing a statue which celebrates a culture of enslavement and racism doesn't "erase" anything.

It celebrates our history. A nation has to take the good with the bad. Mistakes are part of any learning process.


In your case what you want should have us tearing down mosques also. Islamists were responsible for the deaths of 130 million Blacks because of the slave trade.

Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 10:57 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
That rates a "so what".

Well, I just responded to your post, since "those guys" didn't quit.
coldjoint wrote:
What action? Those guys quit.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 11:10 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:

Well, I just responded to your post, since "those guys" didn't quit.

Yes, they did.
Quote:
Two Top Staffers Immediately Quit

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/36042-trump-appointee-takes-over-at-voa-two-top-staffers-immediately-quit
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 11:13 am
@coldjoint,
I wrote:
Pack, a conservative film-maker and ally of right-wing ideologue Stephen Bannon, fired the heads of Middle East Broadcasting, Radio Free Asia, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, and the Open Technology Fund .
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 11:21 am
@coldjoint,



the slave trade existed because white slavers needed a labor force they didn''t have to pay so they could get very rich very cheaply on the broken back of someone else. Other Africans exploited that when the slavers came to them. .JPG They weren't. They were disgusting. They were traitors to the country and the Constitution. They may be joint's heroes, but they shouldn't be ours. Monuments are intended to honor the memory and the deeds of those they memorialize and portray them as honorable. Slavers and traitors are our history. That's part of what our history is.. It's shameful, not an excuse to memorialize.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 11:25 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
the slave trade existed because white slavers needed a labor force they didn''t have to pay so they

Bullshit. The slave trade existed long before the white man needed free labor. The word "slave" is derived from "slav". Slavs were white Europeans captured and enslaved by Islamists. You are woefully ignorant of history which is no surprise at all.
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 18 Jun, 2020 11:27 am
Quote:
Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
These horrible & politically charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives. We need more Justices or we will lose our 2nd. Amendment & everything else. Vote Trump 2020!
76K
8:08 AM - Jun 18, 2020

I wonder if Dick Cheney will sue for copyright infringement.
 

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