@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Quote:Absent for years, I didn't return to A2K until after the '16 election but I'd say the quality of argument and discussion has deteriorated across the entire country, not just here. On this site, I've been most disappointed by a few conservatives I once respected — they wouldn't raise one objection to anything Trump did and defended him to the end. They pretty much put their tails between their legs and ran away because no one was buying their version — but not before telling all the libtards how sheepish and stupid we are.
Hi Frank
Hightor's experience is mine a well. I just reached a "why bother" state of mind with these people (though the tendency of many to continue feeding trolls was a final tipping point). The extremisms of modern conservative tribalism in the US became even less tenable with the arrival of Trump. Sarah Palin was the harbinger, of course, but Trump - and the mandatory allegiance to such an incompetent, serially dishonest, grandiose and corrupt sociopath - could not be maintained without a descent into some cartoonish levels of irrationality.
Many conservatives have begun to pull themselves out of this monstrous mistake but many more have yet to gather up the honesty and the character to do so. Still, the disappearance of these people here is surely a reflection or symptom of the problem that faces them in continuing to justify their allegiance.
Thanks, Bernie. Even in my own family, I see it. I have a brother and sister-in-law, both of whom I love, but they are devoted to this monster in the Oval Office...and manage to justify stuff that they would have crucified people like former Presidents Obama and Clinton for doing. And if even a tiny part of what this abomination does every day had happened even once had Hillary Clinton won...the number of "investigations" from Trump supporters in congress probably would number in the hundreds.
Oh, well...just glad to be back speaking with some of the people I am. If Robert comes back, I may have to take a hike, but I'm hoping that doesn't happen.