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goldberg
 
  2  
Tue 16 Jun, 2020 11:36 pm
@coldjoint,
I think what you are trying to say is Trump is a commie. He has called Putin and Kim my friends several times.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 16 Jun, 2020 11:43 pm
@goldberg,
Quote:
I think what you are trying to say is Trump is a commie.

No, I am saying he did not nothing but stop the Democrats from destroying America. Bob.
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Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 05:05 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Not your imagination. The "Republicans" we have to debate with are so different than the more conservative "establishment" republicans there is no dealing with them. Tea partiers.


Thanks. The change is remarkable...and discouraging.
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Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 05:06 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Trust me: you'll feel better for it.



I already do.

Once on IGNORE...they never come off.

And I NEVER, NEVER take a peek, as some are wont to do.

Something wrong with cj. Not sure what, but lots of it going around in A2K these days. This place seems so different from when I was a regular back in the day.

Is it my imagination...or have things truly changed for the worse?


I took a year hiatus myself because the more rabid trolls were running around like banshees.


Thanks. It has become nuts compared with what it used to be...and back then things were already a little nutty.
Frank Apisa
 
  5  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 05:08 am
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

It depends, some think things have changed for the worst, and some thought it had changed for the better. And cj showed up and the worst took first place in the thinking persons mind.


Laughing
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 05:57 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/UCUSxYY.jpg


Biden opens 13-point advantage as Trump popularity drops to seven-month low
Quote:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden has opened up a 13-point lead over President Donald Trump - the widest margin this year - according to the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll as Americans grow more critical of Trump over the coronavirus pandemic and protests against police brutality.

In the June 10-16 poll, 48% of registered voters said they would back Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, in the Nov. 3 election, while 35% said they would support Trump.

Biden’s advantage is the biggest recorded by the Reuters/Ipsos poll since Democrats began their state nominating contests this year to pick their party’s nominee to challenge Trump in November. A similar CNN poll from earlier this month showed Biden with a 14-point lead over Trump among registered voters.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll also showed that 57% of U.S. adults disapproved of Trump’s performance in office, while just 38% approved, marking Trump’s lowest approval rating since November, when Congress was conducting its impeachment inquiry into the Republican president.
[...]
Altogether, 55% of Americans said they disapproved of Trump’s handling of the coronavirus, while 40% approved, which is the lowest net approval for the president on the subject since Reuters/Ipsos started tracking the question in early March.
[...]
The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online, in English, throughout the United States. The poll gathered responses from 4,426 American adults, including 2,047 Democrats and 1,593 Republicans. The poll had a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of plus or minus 2 percentage points.
Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 06:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/UCUSxYY.jpg


Biden opens 13-point advantage as Trump popularity drops to seven-month low
Quote:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden has opened up a 13-point lead over President Donald Trump - the widest margin this year - according to the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll as Americans grow more critical of Trump over the coronavirus pandemic and protests against police brutality.

In the June 10-16 poll, 48% of registered voters said they would back Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, in the Nov. 3 election, while 35% said they would support Trump.

Biden’s advantage is the biggest recorded by the Reuters/Ipsos poll since Democrats began their state nominating contests this year to pick their party’s nominee to challenge Trump in November. A similar CNN poll from earlier this month showed Biden with a 14-point lead over Trump among registered voters.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll also showed that 57% of U.S. adults disapproved of Trump’s performance in office, while just 38% approved, marking Trump’s lowest approval rating since November, when Congress was conducting its impeachment inquiry into the Republican president.
[...]
Altogether, 55% of Americans said they disapproved of Trump’s handling of the coronavirus, while 40% approved, which is the lowest net approval for the president on the subject since Reuters/Ipsos started tracking the question in early March.
[...]
The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online, in English, throughout the United States. The poll gathered responses from 4,426 American adults, including 2,047 Democrats and 1,593 Republicans. The poll had a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of plus or minus 2 percentage points.



Thanks, Walter.

One has to wonder how almost 40% of Americans approve of what Trump does???

And 96% if Republicans?

There's gotta be a joke in play here somewhere.
hightor
 
  1  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 06:20 am
Air Force Sergeant With Ties to Extremist Group Charged in Federal Officer’s Death

The sergeant had expressed his allegiance to the so-called boogaloo movement, an extremist ideology that seeks to overthrow the U.S. government.

Quote:
An Air Force sergeant linked to an anti-government movement was charged with murder and attempted murder on Tuesday in the shooting death of a federal security officer outside a courthouse in Oakland, Calif., last month.

The sergeant had expressed his allegiance to the so-called boogaloo movement by writing with his own blood on the hood of a white Toyota Camry and had used the recent protests against racial injustice as a cover to attack law enforcement, according to the F.B.I.

Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, is accused of firing an assault rifle from the open back door of a moving vehicle and gunning down the federal officer, according to the criminal complaint.

The driver of the van, Robert Alvin Justus Jr., 30, who had met Sergeant Carrillo on Facebook, was charged with aiding and abetting the murder of Dave Patrick Underwood, 53, the officer killed in the shooting, the complaint said. Both men were also charged with the attempted murder of a second officer who was gravely wounded.

“They came to Oakland to kill cops,” John F. Bennett, the special agent in charge of the F.B.I. in San Francisco, said at a news conference on Tuesday.

Evidence tied Sergeant Carrillo to the boogaloo, an extremist ideology that seeks to bring about a second civil war to overthrow the United States government.

Sergeant Carrillo had previously been charged with the shooting death of a sheriff’s deputy in Santa Cruz County during a gun battle on June 6 that led to his arrest.

In that showdown, Sergeant Carrillo used his own blood to scrawl “Boog” and other phrases linked to the movement on the hood of the car he had stolen.

Sergeant Carrillo is the latest person tied to the movement to be arrested in recent weeks. All of them have sought to exploit protests — first against the coronavirus lockdowns and then around the death of George Floyd in police custody — to accelerate their apocalyptic vision.

The term, initially derived as an inside joke from the 1984 cult classic film “Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo,” is used as shorthand on internet forums for a brewing second civil war.

However, boogaloo does not represent a cohesive or singular ideology. It has been connected to what some consider humorous memes, as well as with occasional physical violence and militaristic shows of force (similarly to armed militias such as the Oath Keepers or III Percenters).

The reference migrated offline from social media platforms like Reddit, 4chan and Facebook with volatile speed in recent months. Adherents often wear distinctive Hawaiian shirts, a reference to the fact that they sometimes transform their name into the “Big Luau” or the “Big Igloo.”

Subscribing to the boogaloo ultimately translates to one core tenet: a belief that the United States government has failed and that the country’s divisions, inflamed by the news media, will result in a violent internal war.

“This is a very violent movement even if they are wearing Hawaiian shirts and using funny memes to try to soften what they are doing,” said Kathleen Belew, a history professor and the author of “Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America.”

nyt

"Antifa" my ass — this guy's in the U.S. Air Force.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.mvP-WaFDGyjiSsg8s8MHTAHaEA%26pid%3DApi&f=1
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hightor
 
  3  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 06:39 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Is it my imagination...or have things truly changed for the worse?

Absent for years, I didn't return to A2K until after the '16 election but I'd say the quality of argument and discussion has deteriorated across the entire country, not just here. On this site, I've been most disappointed by a few conservatives I once respected — they wouldn't raise one objection to anything Trump did and defended him to the end. They pretty much put their tails between their legs and ran away because no one was buying their version — but not before telling all the libtards how sheepish and stupid we are. They bitch about the quality of discourse but completely ignore the part their side plays in the ****-fest.
Frank Apisa
 
  5  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 08:14 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:


Quote:
Is it my imagination...or have things truly changed for the worse?


Absent for years, I didn't return to A2K until after the '16 election but I'd say the quality of argument and discussion has deteriorated across the entire country, not just here. On this site, I've been most disappointed by a few conservatives I once respected — they wouldn't raise one objection to anything Trump did and defended him to the end. They pretty much put their tails between their legs and ran away because no one was buying their version — but not before telling all the libtards how sheepish and stupid we are. They bitch about the quality of discourse but completely ignore the part their side plays in the ****-fest.



Thanks Hightor. I can see the change.

Funny, I missed the space bar when typing the first two words of the second sentence...and it came out Ican.

Ican was a major league conservative over at Abuzz. Don't think he ever came over to A2K.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 08:41 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
One has to wonder how almost 40% of Americans approve of what Trump does???
And 96% if Republicans?
There's gotta be a joke in play here somewhere.

No joke. Mr. Trump is the leader that our country needs right now.
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McGentrix
 
  -2  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 09:08 am
@Frank Apisa,
https://zogbyanalytics.com/images/za060820/trumpbidenregardless061120.gif
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 09:11 am
Quote:
Absent for years, I didn't return to A2K until after the '16 election but I'd say the quality of argument and discussion has deteriorated across the entire country, not just here. On this site, I've been most disappointed by a few conservatives I once respected — they wouldn't raise one objection to anything Trump did and defended him to the end. They pretty much put their tails between their legs and ran away because no one was buying their version — but not before telling all the libtards how sheepish and stupid we are.

Hi Frank
Hightor's experience is mine a well. I just reached a "why bother" state of mind with these people (though the tendency of many to continue feeding trolls was a final tipping point). The extremisms of modern conservative tribalism in the US became even less tenable with the arrival of Trump. Sarah Palin was the harbinger, of course, but Trump - and the mandatory allegiance to such an incompetent, serially dishonest, grandiose and corrupt sociopath - could not be maintained without a descent into some cartoonish levels of irrationality.

Many conservatives have begun to pull themselves out of this monstrous mistake but many more have yet to gather up the honesty and the character to do so. Still, the disappearance of these people here is surely a reflection or symptom of the problem that faces them in continuing to justify their allegiance.
Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 09:13 am
I thought Trump was a done deal before his idiotic gassing of protesters—but then again, the action of gassing protesters is deplorable from my perspective. He just might have really turned on the protester-haters.

All I know is contingents from both parties are jumping ship.

The one thing I know is I don’t trust the polls—and I know there’ll be rampant cheating during the election. The most practiced cheaters will win.

So, looks like Biden.
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 09:13 am
@blatham,
All those words and Trump will still win in 2020. I almost feel bad for you folks with your TDS. Almost.
Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 09:19 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:


Quote:
Absent for years, I didn't return to A2K until after the '16 election but I'd say the quality of argument and discussion has deteriorated across the entire country, not just here. On this site, I've been most disappointed by a few conservatives I once respected — they wouldn't raise one objection to anything Trump did and defended him to the end. They pretty much put their tails between their legs and ran away because no one was buying their version — but not before telling all the libtards how sheepish and stupid we are.


Hi Frank
Hightor's experience is mine a well. I just reached a "why bother" state of mind with these people (though the tendency of many to continue feeding trolls was a final tipping point). The extremisms of modern conservative tribalism in the US became even less tenable with the arrival of Trump. Sarah Palin was the harbinger, of course, but Trump - and the mandatory allegiance to such an incompetent, serially dishonest, grandiose and corrupt sociopath - could not be maintained without a descent into some cartoonish levels of irrationality.

Many conservatives have begun to pull themselves out of this monstrous mistake but many more have yet to gather up the honesty and the character to do so. Still, the disappearance of these people here is surely a reflection or symptom of the problem that faces them in continuing to justify their allegiance.


Thanks, Bernie. Even in my own family, I see it. I have a brother and sister-in-law, both of whom I love, but they are devoted to this monster in the Oval Office...and manage to justify stuff that they would have crucified people like former Presidents Obama and Clinton for doing. And if even a tiny part of what this abomination does every day had happened even once had Hillary Clinton won...the number of "investigations" from Trump supporters in congress probably would number in the hundreds.

Oh, well...just glad to be back speaking with some of the people I am. If Robert comes back, I may have to take a hike, but I'm hoping that doesn't happen.
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McGentrix
 
  -3  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 09:21 am
McGentrix wrote:

https://zogbyanalytics.com/images/za060820/trumpbidenregardless061120.gif

This is a test...
engineer
 
  3  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 09:36 am
@McGentrix,
I've seen this from several polling places. There is a strong fear that Trump will pull it out.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 09:40 am
@engineer,
Four more years of Mr. Trump's leadership is exactly what this country needs.

This Joe Biden thug is bad news all around.
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maporsche
 
  2  
Wed 17 Jun, 2020 09:53 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

I've seen this from several polling places. There is a strong fear that Trump will pull it out.


I hope every possible Joe Biden voter is afraid of this fact all the way through 11/3.

I wish they'd stop touting polls that say "Joe Biden is ahead by xx%". 538 is going to release their 2020 race tracker next week, and I'm worried that it will show Biden with a strong lead in the polls --- when what we NEED right now is a strong fear that 4 more years of Trump is a very likely outcome.

That poll McG posted is exactly what I want to see as part of the opposition.
 

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