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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
oralloy
 
  -3  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 11:47 am
@Olivier5,
I said nothing about dead cops. These officers successfully defended themselves.

You seem to have forgotten that your plan was for you to do the verifying.

You also seem to have forgotten that, despite such verification being your job, I've already given you a list of officers who were lynched by BLM for justifiably defending themselves.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 11:52 am
Progressives have attacked a Thomas Jefferson statue now:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thomas-jefferson-statue-toppled-in-portland-oregon/

Anyone want to lay odds on how long it will be before aggrieved southerners shoot the head off that big MLK statue in DC?
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 11:54 am
Quote:
The Great Society Has Failed

Quote:
And so here we are today in America, and both sayings have relevance, the former more so than the latter. Everyone is screaming, shouting, rioting, looting, and committing acts of violence in the name of combatting “systemic racism.” Truly, there are many folks, empty wagons, making a lot of noise, while so many others are whistling past the graveyard, not grasping the real issue in America.

The bottom line is simple: The Great Society – the grand endeavor of the progressive, racist President Lyndon Baines Johnson, has failed. Fifty-five years later, we are witnessing the -- shall I say it --“chickens coming home to roost.”

The Great Society, also known as the infamous War on Poverty was launched as every other government top-down solution is, with great promise and “noble” intention. It was an updated version of Roosevelt’s “chicken in every pot” solution.

What Johnson and his ilk believed was that they could manipulate the outcomes in the lives of individuals and create equality. They embraced the notion that the government could “level the playing field,” and with a plethora of government subsistence programs, all would be well.

In reflection, we should all agree, and stop whistling past the graveyard, that this was a program intended to do one thing -- create economic enslavement, dependency.

Actually, what he says is more than obvious.
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The progressive socialist left does not want the issues created by The Great Society to be fixed. They do not want to see strong, two-parent families, educational freedom, and economic empowerment. No, on this new plantation, the left needs victims, and victims provide them with electoral patronage. The real discussion about racism should be about the policies that have turned American inner cities into combat zones, literally.

Sadly, with the advent of reality TV and other mindless programming, we are becoming a nation of lemmings and useful idiots, not critical thinkers. We prefer to succumb to the irrational emotionalism of which we are bombarded by the lords of propaganda. We used to have a responsible press.

And they yell racist, go figure.
https://cnsnews.com/commentary/allen-west/great-society-has-failed
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lmur
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 12:05 pm
@hightor,
Enough with the fake news already. Nobody's that deranged.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 12:14 pm
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Who's More Radical: The Left or the Right?

This is the transcript of a video at the link. You Tube will not show these videos. I wonder why.
https://www.prageru.com/video/whos-more-radical-the-left-or-the-right/

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There are crazy positions on the far left and crazy positions on the far right.

On the left, there are people who believe a man can get pregnant; that the world is going to end in a decade if we don’t cap carbon emissions; that the real purpose of the American Revolution was to preserve slavery.

On the right, there are people who deny the Holocaust happened; who believe that whites are inherently superior to other races; that no one should pay taxes.

But there’s an important difference between these two extremes: The crazies on the right have no voice—they are shunned. They live mostly on the far fringes of the internet. The crazies on the left have a loud voice—they are celebrated. They live in the halls of Congress, in state legislatures, and in governors’ mansions.

In light of this distinction, it might be interesting to ask ourselves this question: Which group, the left or the right, is more radical?

We can arrive at a commonsense answer by posing this thought experiment: What would America look like if the left got everything it wanted, and what would America look like if the right got everything it wanted?

Let’s start with the left.

Taxes would go up on individuals and corporations to pay for more social programs—everything from universal childcare to free college tuition. Many on the left call for income taxes as high as 70%. Private health insurance would be abolished; the government would provide all health care services. Everyone in the medical field—doctors, nurses, and administrators—would be government employees. Americans would pay for this government health care through much higher taxes.

Illegal immigration would be decriminalized. It would still be illegal to enter the country without proper documentation, but no one who made it into the US would be prosecuted for doing so. Illegal immigrants would also receive free health care, free education, and free housing.

The Green New Deal would be adopted. Hundreds of billions of dollars of subsidies for wind and solar power would be added to the federal budget. Drilling for fossil fuels, the current source of 80% of our energy, would be sharply curtailed or eliminated altogether. So would nuclear power. As a result, consumers’ electric bills would be much higher.

Reparations would be paid for the past injustice of slavery. How it would be paid—and exactly to whom—is not clear. Legally acquiring a gun would become much more difficult. College debt would be cancelled. Those who had already paid for college would get nothing.

Transgender women—biological men who identify as women—would be allowed to compete against women in sports. America’s military budget would be slashed by 25 to 50%. Speech codes would be enforced throughout American life.

And that’s just a partial list.

Now let’s ask what would happen if the right got what it wanted.

Income taxes would be cut. Capital gains taxes would be cut. Corporate taxes would be cut. And those cuts would be made permanent. All regulations that make doing business unnecessarily difficult and don’t protect public health would be repealed. The issue of abortion would be sent back to the states for each state to decide its own abortion rules for itself.

Many more charter schools would be opened, and it would become much easier to fire bad teachers. In order to vote, citizens would need to present a valid ID. The border with Mexico would be secured. The only way to enter the United States would be through designated border crossings. In order to qualify for welfare assistance, you would have to prove you could not work.

The health care system would be opened to free market reforms. For example, insurance companies could sell policies across state lines. Students in elementary school would recite the Pledge of Allegiance at the start of each school day.

So what can we conclude from our experiment? It’s not hard to figure out.

If the right got everything it wanted, the government would get much smaller. The citizen would have more freedom.

If the left got everything it wanted, the government would get much bigger. The citizen would have less freedom.

You’re not radical if you want America to be what it’s always been: committed to individual liberty. You’re only radical if you want to fundamentally transform America into something it’s never been.

Which country do you want to live in?


I’m Will Witt for Prager University.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 12:34 pm

Don't just vote this down. Debunk what he says. Why isn't right? Can anyone tell us?

I bet no one can, or will even try. We have seen how the Left handles the truth, they completely ignore it and throw out the usual names and hate at anyone that disputes their narrative..
lmur
 
  3  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 01:46 pm
According to the 'pool', Trump just said that halting all coronavirus testing would result in fewer cases, if any.

Genius. Cure for cancer imminent.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 01:57 pm
@lmur,
And that happened at a roundtable on protecting senior citizens during the coronavirus pandemic.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 02:30 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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And that happened at a roundtable on protecting senior citizens during the coronavirus pandemic.

You mean the people Cuomo and other Democratic governors ignored?
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coldjoint
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 02:39 pm
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Democrats (Accidentally) Make The Case Against Teachers’ Unions

In one of my posts I said try and fire a teacher. Thanks to Democrats for pointing out the power the unions have when it comes to firing bad people and how they stop it from happening.
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All this applies equally, if not more so, to teachers’ unions. Through the collective bargaining process, they’ve made it nearly impossible to fire a teacher, unless the school wants to spend roughly two years and $200,000 doing it, according to Stanford Professor Terry Moe.

Teachers themselves admit that this is a problem. A survey by NPR and Ipsos looked at the views of K-12 teachers across America, with roughly half members of teachers’ unions and half non-unionized. Among the findings: 62% of organized teachers and 64% of non-unionized teachers agreed that the unions make it harder to fire bad teachers.

A study by the Fordham Institute looking at what it takes to fire bad teachers found that “For the most part, state and local policies create a tortuous maze of paperwork, regulations, and directives. Teachers who receive years’ worth of ineffective ratings are given multiple chances for improvement and reevaluation, and a single procedural violation by the administration starts the process over again.”

Teachers’ unions are the biggest and most relentless obstacle to education reforms such as charter schools and education savings accounts that would put more control in the hands of parents and break the union stranglehold over public education.

But don’t expect Democrats to ever extend their reasons for hating police unions over to teachers, for the simple reason that teachers’ unions dump far more money on Democrats than police unions.

While police unions give heavily to Democrats, they also support Republican candidates.

As one House Democratic leadership aide told Axios, “Police unions are very different. They’re very conservative, a lot of them are even Republican. They don’t have the same progressive beliefs.”

But teachers’ unions? In the past 28 years, they gave 96% of their campaign contributions to Democratic candidates. And they are huge contributors. In 2016, the American Federation of Teachers and the National Education Association gave $64 million in political donations.

The result: student test scores have stagnated while per-pupil costs continue to climb. Millions of children remain stuck in failing schools. But hey, it’s mainly a real problem only for those in poor, minority neighborhoods. Why would Democrats care about that?

Now that the public is opening its eyes to the harm done by one public-sector union, perhaps it will start to realize that being anti-teachers’ unions isn’t the same as being anti-education.

Democratic hypocrisy is as regular as the sunrise.
https://issuesinsights.com/2020/06/15/democrats-accidentally-make-the-case-against-teachers-unions/
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 03:12 pm
@oralloy,
The plan was first for you to learn the difference between a non-verifiable claim (such as "X wants Y") and verifiable claims (such as "X said Y"). This has not progressed very well, obviously, since you are still unable to formulate a verifiable claim about BLM.

You said police officers were "lynched" by BLM. "Lynched" means "killed". Explain yourself.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 03:24 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
you are still unable to formulate a verifiable claim about BLM.

That is incorrect. Your refusal to try to verify something does not mean that it cannot be verified.


Olivier5 wrote:
You said police officers were "lynched" by BLM. "Lynched" means "killed". Explain yourself.

Lynched doesn't have to mean killed. A lynching is when someone is unjustly harmed at the insistence of an unruly mob.

In these cases the people who are lynched are often fired unjustly, and sometimes are unjustly convicted of a crime.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 04:03 pm
@oralloy,
For a claim to be verifiable, the wording needs to be unambiguous.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 04:10 pm
@Olivier5,
The wording is clear.

The goal of BLM is to make it impossible for police officers to defend themselves so that black people can murder them with no resistance.

This can be seen from the long list of police officers who they have lynched for justifiably defending themselves.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 04:18 pm
@oralloy,
Nope. I don't think you understand the concept of "verifiable claim".

Well, I tried...
oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 04:23 pm
@Olivier5,
I have always understood the meaning of the term.

And the fact that you refuse to verify a claim does not make it unverifiable.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 06:53 pm
Biden would not like this young Black woman. She would not meet his standards as a real Black.

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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 08:03 pm
https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/06/Screen-Shot-2020-06-10-at-9.49.41-PM.png?resize=600%2C418&ssl=1
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goldberg
 
  0  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 08:04 pm
@oralloy,
U only want to read books written by agitators like you. Japan still has lots of conservative dopes trying to whitewash Nanjing Massacre. That's why they hired English-speaking publicists and propagandists and asked them to hurl vitriol at Iris Chang when she was still alive.

Trump and his Russian boyfriend Putin wouldn't call it cheap shot. For Trump the name of the game is how to get elected, not what can I do for the American people.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 15 Jun, 2020 08:05 pm
https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/06/IMG_2103.jpg?resize=600%2C400&ssl=1
 

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