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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 08:37 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz061220dAPR20200612044510.jpg
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 14 Jun, 2020 09:13 pm
Quote:
A Shocking Eye-Witness Account Of What's Really Happening During The Seattle Riots

Read about the crap Democrats are appeasing, if not enabling. It will give you an idea of the rot that has entered our society after generations of propaganda from America hating Communists.
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The protester proceeded to yell, asking why the Officer was on the “white-man’s side.” He called the Officer an “Uncle Tom,” a “pretender,” a “race traitor,” and a N-word I’d prefer not to use. Every fiber of my being wanted to lash out. How can you use racist terms and protest racism while using it in a derogatory manner towards someone else? How can you even find fault in someone that is remaining peaceful, that is protecting your rights, and is obviously concerned for the community?! I was furious as the protester continued berating the Officer… We then got replaced by another squad for relief.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shocking-eye-witness-account-whats-really-happening-during-seattle-riots
Olivier5
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 01:01 am
@oralloy,
What anybody wants is unverifiable by others. That’s because it’s a thought, and thoughts are private, not verifiable by anybody else than the guy thinking.

For instance, if you were to say that you want to suck an orang outang, there would be no way for me to tell for sure if you really want to suck a orang outang or if you are just pretending.

Therefore, your statement about what BLM “wants” is regrettably not a verifiable fact. Try again.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 02:02 am
@Olivier5,
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Lately, I’ve been thinking of the 8,000 word “long telegram” that George Kennan, then the American chargé d’affaires in Moscow and later an architect of the Cold War, sent to the State Department in 1946 – a document in which Kennan described the methods of an authoritarian dictatorship, “so strange to our form of thought”. Under Stalin, wrote Kennan, “The very disrespect of Russians for objective truth – indeed, their disbelief in its existence – leads them to view all stated facts as instruments for furtherance of one ulterior purpose or another.”

It’s remarkable, how much one can get used to, with a president who has made over 18,000 false or misleading claims since taking office. But all that seems more disturbing now, not only because the tweets and speculations have gotten more aggressive and outlandish, but because the upheavals in our country, the crises we face – the continuing Covid-19 pandemic, the tanking economy, the unrest inspired by the early stages of a necessary reckoning with racism – have made us wish, more than ever, for a leader who shows some honesty, common sense, or who just (we’re setting the bar quite low here) behaves like a responsible adult.


The above quote is from an opinion by Francine Prose: The gap between Trump's world and reality is widening. It's disturbing to watch. George Kennan's "long telegram" is >here<
Olivier5
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 03:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
the crises we face [...] have made us wish, more than ever, for a leader who shows some honesty, common sense, or who just (we’re setting the bar quite low here) behaves like a responsible adult.

Hence the possibility of a blue wave in November, since voters would (or so the theory goes) badly yearn for a return to sanity after the Trump years.
Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 03:42 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

George Floyd did not commit a crime but he was killed for being black. Breona Taylor did not commit a crime. Ahmaud Arbery did not commit a crime. Trayvon Martin did not commit a crime. Eric Garner's "crime" was selling a few cigarettes and not collecting NY tax but he's dead. too.ccChaney, Schwerner and Goodman, ississippI Freedom Summer 1964 did not commit crimes, but a mob with lawmen in it killed them and dumped them in landfill. Your reasoning is bogus.


Sadly, there is little in the way of "reasoning" for a person defending Trump these days. There is just the bullheadedness of refusing to see the blight that Trump is on America...on humanity in general.

Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 03:45 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
George Floyd did not commit a crime but he was killed for being black.

He passed a fake 20 and had illegal drugs on him. A career criminal with multiple prison sentences.

I understand a store owner accused him of passing funny money. No confirmation that I have seen, and if true, no particular reason to think Floyd knew it was queer. He was apparently killed before they could ask him. Also, I see no reason to kill someone over $20.00 - real or not.


Yup.

But you are trying to reason with someone who refuses reason. All Trump supporters have been reduced to "refuse reason." That is the level to which all supporters of dictators and dictator wanna-be's eventually fall. And they revel in it.

Best to just laugh at them and leave them be, but tough to resist the fight.
goldberg
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 05:10 am
@coldjoint,
Your idol can't stop the rot with his current foreign policy or the so-called America first. Trump's intransigence and his disregard for global alliances only cosh America's own ambitions. It also gives America's foes leeway to gird for their loins even America starts implementing policy of containment again. You know America's hands are tied , ahem, with racial protests and internal power struggles convulsing America.

In some respects, there is a case to be made that they are using George Kennan's policy of containment to curtail America's leadership. The only difference is your idol Trump has been the booster instead of a denier of this tactic.

What a great president. He is helping other nations chip away at America's
leadership.

At any rate, it will be an onerous undertaking for Biden as well if this kind of racial conflagration and ideological conflict keep cropping up.


I truly think that America has scores of anarchists spoiling for a fight. Biden has to get tough on such anarchists as well since their overriding goal is to create chaos.
goldberg
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 05:23 am
@goldberg,
it's a matter of national interest for both parties; it's beyond partisanship. You can't go soft on this issue because such anarchists also have foreign powers going to bat for them.

You can't let fascism rear its ugly head again.
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goldberg
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 05:36 am
@Olivier5,
CNN's own poll suggested that Biden is taking the lead. I'm not sure that's good news or not. You know Brad Parscale still works for Trump. One of his tactics is to go the extra mile to get out the vote.

I think Trump's team may be still biding its time just like what Trump's team did to Hillary Clinton. No one knows what would Brad Parscale and Jared Kushner do to cut Biden down to size. It's going to be another ugly election.
goldberg
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 05:46 am
@Frank Apisa,
I think there is no denying that Trump's team still has resourceful consultants who don't mind acting like cheerleaders for Trump's hanky-panky. By contrast, Biden's team seems to be pure-minded.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 05:48 am
@goldberg,
And no matter who wins, it is gonna be an ugly next administration. The recriminations will be massive and frequent no matter what.

As for winning and losing, though...the Trump team can only lose.

Either Biden WINS...and they lose...

...or Trump WINS...and EVERYONE IN THE WORLD loses.

Tough spot to be in.
goldberg
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 06:05 am
@Frank Apisa,
Word up. But America needs a can-do president in straitened times
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justaguy2
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 06:06 am
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-supporters-killary-_b_11334176
hightor
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 06:57 am
@justaguy2,
Gee, luckily that doesn't resemble anyone we know on A2K!
justaguy2
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 07:24 am
@hightor,
Yeah, perish the thought...

But, since it looks like people here actually read it... can we call that a win for A2K?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 07:47 am
@hightor,
Last week, unhappy with the results of a poll from Florida, OAN pulled a story about it. Then it made a new one — misrepresenting the results.

The most fervently pro-Trump cable network offers a concise lesson in creating fake news
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[... ... ...]
This is fake news, folks. It’s invented, cherry-picked and deceptively framed information meant not to convey actual information but, instead, to placate the president and his supporters. It is to news what your mom’s evaluation of your performance in your Little League game was — reassuring but hardly objective. And not only is this report misleading and unethical, it makes very clear why they removed the initial report last week: it wasn’t positive enough for Trump. This one is, even if it’s dishonest, so it’s still online.

Yet somehow I am skeptical that Trump will reject OAN as an untrustworthy news source.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 07:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
U.S. Supreme Court snubs Trump on challenge to California 'sanctuary' laws
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(Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday handed President Donald Trump a defeat in his legal showdown with the most-populous U.S. state, declining to hear his administration’s challenge to “sanctuary” laws in California that protect immigrants from deportation.

The justices left in place a lower court ruling that upheld the bulk of three laws in the Democratic-governed state that limit cooperation with federal immigration enforcement authorities. The Trump administration had appealed that ruling to the high court.


Only Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr. voted to hear the administration’s appeal.
The court’s action is a major victory for California in its long running battle with Trump.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 09:11 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
What anybody wants is unverifiable by others.

That is incorrect. It is possible to assess that Black Lives Matter wants to prevent police officers from justifiably defending themselves by looking at the way they repeatedly lynch police officers for justified self defense.


Olivier5 wrote:
Try again.

Remember that your refusal to verify something does not mean that it isn't verifiable. You sure are putting a lot of effort into avoiding the fact that everything I say is true.

But anyway:

Hiroshima was a large military center with tens of thousands of Japanese soldiers awaiting deployment to resist our invasion of Japan, and it held the military headquarters in charge of defending against that invasion. Nagasaki was an industrial center with huge weapons factories. Japan refused to surrender until after both A-bombs were dropped.

Note regarding the surrender timing: I am not claiming that the A-bombs caused the surrender. A lot of people like to argue that they did or didn't. However I think that question is unanswerable. My statement regarding the timing is only intended as opposition to claims that Japan was already offering to surrender when we nuked them.
oralloy
 
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Mon 15 Jun, 2020 09:14 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Sadly, there is little in the way of "reasoning" for a person defending Trump these days.

I defend Mr. Trump and you certainly can't point out any flaws in my reasoning.

I doubt that you can point out flaws in the reasoning of other Trump supporters either.


Frank Apisa wrote:
There is just the bullheadedness of refusing to see the blight that Trump is on America...on humanity in general.

What is important is the fact that Mr. Trump prevents progressives from violating our civil liberties.

That's really the only thing that matters.
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