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bobsal u1553115
 
  -1  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 12:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
We're like Mexico and Brazil. We're set up for two parties regardless of how mwny run. The best a third party can do is spoil a vote.

To be an effective three or more party country, we'd need universal run offs on elections where no candidate getting and absolute majority fires off a run off. Also: I'd like to see a "none of the above" option.

Maye a little parliamentarianism: votes of confidence.
bobsal u1553115
 
  -2  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 12:34 pm
@livinglava,
Bull ****. It'll force the Canadians to refine their own crap or take it off the market. I don't care if it increases the cost of gasoline or not. I want fewer cars on the road and either way it will help improve the rail infrastructure by bringing road beds up to snuff for freight and passenger service.

Making extra dirty oil even more expensive is a very good thing.
livinglava
 
  0  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 01:11 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Bull ****. It'll force the Canadians to refine their own crap or take it off the market. I don't care if it increases the cost of gasoline or not. I want fewer cars on the road and either way it will help improve the rail infrastructure by bringing road beds up to snuff for freight and passenger service.

Making extra dirty oil even more expensive is a very good thing.

It will stimulate investment in the oil tanker industry to eliminate it as competition.

I suspect Biden knows this and the Democrats want to cater to global trade anyway, which includes pumping up automotive dependency as much as possible to stimulate more imports and trade.

The world cashes in on US auto- and oil- dependency, and that is part of why they want to make fines (Paris accord) to punish the US for their addiction and get even more (tax) money that way.

Remember Cash4Clunkers? That was the US government subsidizing the auto industry and the driving culture at the same time. It was rationalized by saying people would drive more fuel-efficient cars if they traded in their old 'clunkers,' but there are too many cars and too much pavement and it's not enough to just make all the cars more efficient without reducing the overall quantity of traffic and pavement.

If Biden wins, it will be because the investors know he's not really stopping the pipeline to reduce the number of cars. You're a union-supporter, right? Who is a bigger proponent of maximizing car production, driving, and thus repairs/parts sales and labor than auto unions?
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 01:53 pm
https://patriot.imgix.net/9ea9116d7609ab2e0a76f2797b980f0db77726010c53f783f66f8af861dd958d.jpg?auto=format
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Politicians of all stripes specialize in opportunistic photo-ops. But Democrats really blew it earlier this week with their display of Kente cloth shawls, which they donned while kneeling for nearly nine minutes to show “solidarity” with black people in the midst of race riots plaguing the nation. For one thing, George Floyd died because a cop kneeled on his neck for nearly nine minutes, so this was, to quote the movie “Animal House,” a “really futile and stupid gesture … on somebody’s part.” Worse, the Kente cloth they wore was the garb of the Ashanti tribe — a tribe that was known for owning and trading slaves. Oops!

If leftists weren’t so busy learning their “history” from the revisionist and race-baiting 1619 Project, they might know that black Africans captured and sold other black Africans to white Westerners, and that there is still an active slave trade in Africa.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/71347-slave-trader-garb-and-juneteenth-flap-reveal-democrat-hypocrisy-2020-06-12
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 02:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
You mean like in France where if no candidate gets more than 50% of the vote the top two candidates go on a run off?

That’s when the Socialists had to vote for Chirac against Le Pen.

I’m speaking as an outsider here and don’t claim any real authority on the subject but I get the feeling that there’s a strong resistance to change, as if it would betray the founding fathers and America in some way.

It’s not just run off elections, it’s the electoral college and the super majority needed in the Senate to effect real change. And I’m sure there’s other things as well.

We had a similar thing over here long ago. Pitt the younger tried some very modest reforms, but had to back down in the face of conservative opposition. It wasn’t until 1832 that any real change happened. We’re talking about an electoral map drawn up centuries earlier, before the industrial revolution. Major cities like Liverpool and Manchester had no representatives, and some MPs represented places that no longer existed. That’s just a bit of it.

At the time there was huge concern that messing about with something set down centuries earlier that had functioned well enough would cause disaster.

Obviously it’s not the same as what’s going on in America right now, I just see a few parallels that’s all.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 12 Jun, 2020 02:27 pm
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The Left Has Gone from 'Orange Man Bad' to 'White Man Bad'—and It's Going to Backfire

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Any citizen not deeply propagandized and programmed by the Democratic Socialist left knows this: In the eyes of most American people, the Democrat vision for the future is cripplingly weak. So tangibly fragile that one businessman and his vision has tilted the opposition party into a realm of derangement, and into the business of cowering before and even fomenting the utter madness and incomprehensibility we see playing out across the nation right now.

Another meme: Whatever accusation Democrats level is what they’re guilty of. Could it be that malignly simple?

I have talked about brainwashing. I think there are a few victims of that here.
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A double-down on the criminalization of whiteness is bad. It is hard to imagine worse. But here we are.

The silver lining in all this may be that the left doesn’t seem to grasp the reservoir of goodwill and fair-mindedness it will squander if it continues down its present path. It doesn’t seem to understand just who it is they are forcing to circle the wagons—a nation populated by white people who vehemently oppose racism and bigotry in all its ugly manifestations. Further, it fails to factor that many “people of color,” while cognizant of some racist taints in our history, will reject this broad-brush allegation against contemporary fellow citizens.

Sounds about right.
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It grows ever more likely that a winning majority of voters in this great nation understand that the president was illegally targeted by left-wingers in the Deep State, and that he is not responsible for and acted prudently in response to coronavirus.

Now, with the Democrat Party’s core message centering on the unbearable awfulness of America and “white man bad,” odds are that they will turn out in a decidedly unforgiving state of mind.

Democrats are trying convince people that they deserve to be **** on. That it has worked on quite a few is truly disturbing.
https://pjmedia.com/columns/mark-ellis/2020/06/12/the-left-has-gone-from-orange-man-bad-to-white-man-bad-and-its-going-to-backfire-n520508


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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 02:49 pm
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Horowitz: The new panic lie: Increased coronavirus hospitalizations and cases in the southwest

The link is full of charts, it explains how numbers are manipulated. This being done because the vote by mail bullshit. Do not fall for another lie. And do not let the media and Democrats get away with it. Tell your friends they are being had again.
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-new-panic-lie-increased-coronavirus-hospitalizations-cases-southwest/


MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 03:07 pm
@coldjoint,
We've been voting by mail since the Civil War. The hysteria is just from Trump's expressed fear that if more people vote, the Repubs will never win another election. Republicans hate democracy.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 12 Jun, 2020 03:14 pm
@izzythepush,
The problem is a great deal more complex than seems at first view, Izzy.

Each of our states gets 2 senators...and at least 3 electors in the Electoral College.

Solid conservative states like Wyoming and the two Dakotas, for instance...have a combined total population of slightly over 2,000,000 people...and those 2,000,000 people are represented in the Senate by 6 Senators...and they are represented in the Electoral College by 9 electors.

California alone has almost 40,000,000 people represented in the Senate by 2 Senators...and in the Electoral College by 54 electors.

If it were fairly allocated, and California had 6 Senators for every 2,000,000 people...they would have 20 Senators rather than 2...and would have 180 electors rather than 54. (Hope my math was correct, but I suck at math.)
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 03:49 pm
@livinglava,
There's an oil glut. They store oil on tankers. None of the countries party to agreements to cut production honor these agreements. At the same time usage is going down. What pressures are there to build tankers? And why should I have a pipeline go through my backyard just because Shell and Canadian tar sand producers want it? What makes tankers more dangerous than pipelines? Haven't you read about the massive pipeline spill in the Artic Circle? How many spills have there been in the US? a lot. And when you pipe the chemical brew it takes to pump tar sand with its abrasive sand - I'd rather the Canadians refined it themselves and in my mind tankers have proven themselves safer than pipeline and they don't go through cities and agriculture areas.

I think you're blind to the truth.
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 12 Jun, 2020 03:53 pm
@Frank Apisa,
The status quo usually benefits the ruling class.

Thanks for giving a fuller picture.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 12 Jun, 2020 03:55 pm
White people demonstrate their solidarity with murdering Nazis and Slave holders!!!!

http://art-for-a-change.com/blog/images/aug2005/nazis.jpg

https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2017/08/13/white-house-condemns-white-supremacists-in-email-to-reporters-as-backlash-grows-over-trumps-many-sides-response-to-charlottesville-violence/varallytrump.jpg

https://img.rt.com/files/news/20/35/20/00/nazi-white-city-dakota.si.jpg

https://www.bobwelbaum-author.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Hitler-in-US.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0-ldnkxjypA/maxresdefault.jpg
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 03:59 pm
@izzythepush,
Exactly what I want. Its the only way a third party has a chance. I get Lash's point, if she is truly serious and up front about it.

There is no major will in the US for this change.
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snood
 
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Fri 12 Jun, 2020 05:43 pm
So Fraud 45 goes to Dallas to hold a “round table about law enforcement “. All or most of the top law enforcement officials in Dallas are black. None of them were invited to this event.

It’s little things like this that let you know what Trump really thinks of black people.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/dallass-top-law-enforcement-agents-not-invited-to-talk-policing-with-trump/287-af20b5d1-0c5c-4725-8187-2a8110bd3956

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/06/11/trump-snubs-dallas-top-law-enforcement-officials-all-black-for-talk-about-policing-and-race/
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 06:10 pm
@snood,
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It’s little things like this that let you know what Trump really thinks of black people.

They are also Democrats, black has 0 to do with it, which means they would add nothing to any conversation about law and order. They are clearly against it.
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 12 Jun, 2020 06:21 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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White people

Racist. It is their right to protest. I do not see any fires in the background. They are not protesting like the Left, there is no violence. Those pictures are posted to instill guilt and self hatred.

White supremacists are very few in number. The media hype, hyperbole, and lies are propaganda. The truth, there are Nazi supporters. The lie, is that there are vast numbers of them. Basically a non-story posted by someone to spread hate dishonestly, of course. It is what some people do.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 06:30 pm
Tucker Carlson has just lost a bunch of advertisers (I think it is up to 7 today)

More than anyone else, Media Matters is responsible for this.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 06:36 pm
@blatham,
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More than anyone else, Media Matters is responsible for this.

Taking pride in shutting down the other side of the argument by intimidating companies with threats and social media hate? I bet you are.

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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 12 Jun, 2020 07:08 pm
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Michigan Democratic Official Faces Trial for Six Counts of Alleged Election Fraud

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Stemming from the Nov. 6, 2018 general election, Hawkins was charged as follows:

Count One: Election law – Falsifying returns/records, a five-year felony and/or $1,000;

Count Two: Forgery of a public record, a 14-year felony;

Count Three: Misconduct in office, a five-year felony and/or $10,000;

Count Four: Using a computer to commit a crime – election law – falsifying returns/records, a seven-year felony and/or $5,000;

Count Five: Using a computer to commit a crime – forgery of a public record, a 10-year felony and/or $10,000;

Count Six: Using a computer to commit a crime – misconduct in office, a seven-year felony and/or $5,000.

No voter fraud?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2020/06/12/michigan-democratic-official-faces-trial-for-6-counts-of-alleged-election-fraud-n2570573
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 12 Jun, 2020 07:45 pm

I think YouTube might pull this video. I hope they don't.
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