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Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 8 Jun, 2020 11:55 pm
@goldberg,
Clinton thought putting Trump in as an opponent stitched up the process completely.

She couldn't have been more wrong about anything in her miserable life.

Sounds like you missed the whole takedown of the Russia.Russia.Russia scam.

goldberg
 
  1  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 12:03 am
@Builder,
Well, it's true that she failed to comprehend the dangers of dealing with Putin's Russia. Her advisers may have played down the seriousness of coping with Putin's strenuous efforts to hold her back from becoming the president as well .

It's a lesson for Joe Biden. Putin's Russia is said to be trying to find other ways to rig the election.

Biden would be wise to keep an eye on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar, both of whom are trouble-makers. Bernie Sander is just an idealist. I think he seems to be a well-meaning person.
Builder
 
  0  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 12:35 am
@goldberg,
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/540/655/439.gif

Stuck in 2019, I see?
snood
 
  2  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 12:47 am
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:

Well, it's true that she failed to comprehend the dangers of dealing with Putin's Russia. Her advisers may have played down the seriousness of coping with Putin's strenuous efforts to hold her back from becoming the president as well .

It's a lesson for Joe Biden. Putin's Russia is said to be trying to find other ways to rig the election.

Biden would be wise to keep an eye on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar, both of whom are trouble-makers. Bernie Sander is just an idealist. I think he seems to be a well-meaning person.



Do you perceive them as merely rabble rousers for the sake of the limelight, or do you suspect even more nefarious motivations on the part of those two young legislators? What precisely do you propose he needs to be “keeping an eye” Lou for?
goldberg
 
  0  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 03:37 am
@snood,
They are both flamethrowers just like conservative radio hosts and TV talking heads, say, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, and Bill O'Reilly. One could also add Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson on the list.

The only difference is such conservative airheads use their radio programs and Fox News as a platform on which they purvey conservative principles and groundless accusations against liberals. By contrast, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar sow division within the Democratic Party either by crucifying the Democratic establishment or upbraiding Israel . Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez reportedly said she won't support Biden unless her demands are met; Ilhan Omar has expressed support for the Palestinians several times, despite having taking flak from her Democratic fellows.

It's telling that the Democratic Party needs to get behind the same message or coalesce around Biden's leadership if it hopes to win the president election. The divisiveness of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar's own stated goals, for the most party, only plays into the Trump's hands , helping Trump create more wedge issues.

Some liberal columnists argue that most young voters gravitate toward progressive ideas championed by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez , suggesting that Biden should team up with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a bid to please young liberal voters. That seems to be a compelling idea for Biden since the Democratic party truly needs young voices. Yet Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is intransigent; she is loth to support Biden unless Biden also accepts her Green New Deal and other quixotic policy proposals that would have caught Karl Marx off caught.

Biden can't win this election by merely playing up to progressive voters or young voters. That's why Bernie Sanders made the right decision by opting out of this race. , having realized that his own campaign would only cause a schism in his party.

Taken together, the Democratic needs to consolidate its base just like what Trump has been doing. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar would be better off playing Biden's foot soldiers instead of trying to steal Biden's thunder. Otherwise, Biden's odds of beating Trump are negligible with a divided party.

Don't get deluded by some polls that suggest that Biden is taking a lead. CNN's top brass and its own journalists have their own politician leanings or even biases. Still remember what happened to Hillary Clinton? This time liberals should not make the same mistake again.

Biden needs to show voters that he is a doer, not another sayer like Trump.
goldberg
 
  1  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 03:46 am
@Builder,
Far from it. We are woke.
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hightor
 
  3  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 03:52 am
@Builder,
Quote:
So tell us how someone with zero public service experience can become Commander-in-chief of the most destructive military junta on the planet.

It's called "electing a president"; it happens every four years.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:00 am
@hightor,
I want to excuse Builder - he's obviously more used to the situation in Australia. (In Australia, the command in chief of the naval and military forces is vested in the Governor‑General as the Queen’s representative.)
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goldberg
 
  1  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:00 am
@snood,
I hasten to add that Trump's actually the beneficiary of violent protests. I don't want to dwell on it for fear of being called a racist. Well, it's time for big boys of the Democratic party to ponder over this issue, not to jump the gun.

America is not South Africa.
hightor
 
  4  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:01 am
He Is Even Dumber Than We Thought

Four years in office have only convinced more Americans that the Trump might not be a stable genius.

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A Washington Post–ABC News poll taken the last week of May 2020 asked Americans, “Do you think Trump has the mental sharpness it takes to serve effectively as president?” Fifty-two percent of respondents said no, with only 46 percent saying yes.

One might see this solid majority response as the weary, off-the-cuff judgment of an American public worn down by Trump’s barrage of outlandish claims about coronavirus treatments, or fantasized accounts of legions of violent antifa leaders orchestrating the present nationwide protests over the police killing of George Floyd. (Indeed, since that poll’s release, it was reported that Trump mistakenly tried to register to vote in his newly adopted home state of Florida using an out-of-state address.) But in truth, this was far from the first poll to find that a substantial number of Americans see Trump as not very bright. An Economist/YouGov poll in 2019 asked, “Compared to other presidents since World War II, would you say that Trump is more or less intelligent?” Forty-seven percent said that he is less intelligent, 22 percent said he has about the same intelligence, and just 21 percent thought he is more intelligent.

It appears that Trump’s performance in office has had a negative effect on perceptions of his mental acuity. The Quinnipiac poll tracked perceptions of Trump’s mental sharpness from 2016 through 2018, asking, “Would you say that Donald Trump is intelligent, or not?” When first asked in November 2016, 74 percent of people said yes, and only 21 percent said no. A year later, however, those answering in the affirmative had fallen to 55 percent, while those in the negative camp rose to 41 percent. Subsequent polls found roughly the same ratio.

Closely related to doubts about Trump’s intelligence is the question of whether he is too ignorant to do his job. In 2016 and 2017, the Fox News poll asked people, “Do you think Trump has the knowledge to serve effectively as president?” In the five times the question was asked, 60 percent of people said no and just 40 percent or fewer said yes.

Further evidence that Trump is widely viewed as something shy of the sharpest knife in the drawer comes from another, far-from-leading query pollsters have posed about him. In September 2017, a Washington Post–ABC News poll asked people an open-ended question: “What one word best describes your impression of Trump? Just the one word that best describes him?” The first most common term to describe him was “incompetent.” Other related characterizations in the top 10 descriptors included “idiot,” “ignorant,” and “unqualified.”

Quinnipiac asked a similar question in December 2017: “What is the first word that comes to mind when you think of President Trump?” By far, the most frequent word that came to mind was “idiot.” Other common terms included “incompetent,” “moron,” “ignorant,” and “stupid.”

Of course, Trump regularly refers to himself as a “very stable genius.” As proof, he often mentions that he got an undergraduate degree from the prestigious Wharton School of Finance at the University of Pennsylvania, after spending his first two years at Fordham. However, there is no evidence that he was anything other than an ordinary student. He didn’t make the list of matriculating students in his class who graduated with honors. Reportedly, one of his professors, William T. Kelly, later disparaged Trump as one of the dumbest students he ever had.

There is no evidence that Trump has ever sought the company of intellectuals or taken any advice even from those of a conservative persuasion. It’s absurd to imagine him hosting a dinner for 49 Nobel Prize winners, as John F. Kennedy did in 1962. (On that occasion, Kennedy said, “I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.”)

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President John F. Kennedy and First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy pose with Nobel Prize winners from the Western Hemisphere at a dinner in their honor.
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Instead of touting knowledge for knowledge’s sake, Trump has leaned into a different model of intellectual achievement, one that falls under the broad heading of the familiar taunt, “If you’re so smart, why aren’t you rich?” Throughout his career, Trump has maintained that the proof of his smarts was in his fortune—that his early ascension to billionaire status reflected superior worldly wisdom across the board. This is a long-standing article of faith in American business folklore—the notion that great wealth and the conspicuous consumption that accompanies it confer, by definition, an important benefit to society. Trump contributes to this belief by implying that he is a self-made man, rather than someone who inherited the vast bulk of his wealth. He also grossly inflates his net worth and downplays the extent to which it was achieved through inside connections and tax breaks rather than entrepreneurial skill. (In fact, Trump would have made more money investing his inheritance in a passive index fund than using it to finance his real estate empire.)

From the earliest days of his administration, it has been obvious to everyone who has come in direct contact with him that Trump knows very, very little about any policy issue or even how the federal government operates. Among those most alarmed by Trump’s ignorance and incompetence were those in the military and intelligence community. After a National Security Council meeting on January 19, 2018, Defense Secretary James Mattis told aides that Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader.”

To this day, Trump pays very little attention to his intelligence briefings. He received repeated warnings about the coronavirus that he completely ignored—at great cost in terms of lives. Long after the seriousness of the pandemic became too serious for him to ignore and after many briefings on the subject, Trump continued to make ridiculous comments about unproven cures, including some that are simply nonsensical.

Trump’s mental failings are also painfully clear to foreign diplomats, who are professionally obligated to be frank and clear-eyed about him. Among themselves, diplomats early on shared tips on meeting with Trump: Don’t assume he knows anything about your country, flatter his ego, and be mindful of his extremely short attention span. It often appeared to aides that Trump didn’t even understand that other countries are in different time zones. He quickly became a “laughing stock,” as one unnamed official put it, at international meetings, where diplomats mocked his ignorance and limited vocabulary.

In 2017, Britain’s ambassador to the United States, Sir Kim Darroch, harshly assessed Trump’s intelligence and ability to function in office. In a cable to the Foreign Office, Darroch said, “As seen from here, we really don’t believe that this administration is going to become substantially more normal, less dysfunctional, less unpredictable, less faction-driven, less diplomatically clumsy and inept.”

When the French ambassador, Gérard Araud, left his post in 2019, he blasted Trump, comparing him to King Louis XIV: “You have an old king, a bit whimsical, unpredictable, uninformed, but he wants to be the one deciding.”

German Chancellor Angela Merkel was despondent at the 2017 G7 meeting, where Trump showed no awareness of climate change and rejected international cooperation to deal with it. According to Der Spiegel, “His speech was a break from centuries of Enlightenment and rationality. The president presented his political statement as a nationalist manifesto of the most imbecilic variety. It couldn’t have been any worse. His speech was packed with make-believe numbers from controversial or disproven studies. It was hypocritical and dishonest.”

In July 2017, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson reportedly called Trump a “moron” for his bungling and incompetence. That same month, National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster reportedly dismissed Trump as an “idiot” and a “dope” with the intelligence of a “kindergartner” at a private dinner. In 2018, White House chief of staff John Kelly called Trump “an idiot” on several occasions. A long list of other close Trump advisers have also disparaged his intelligence.

Nevertheless, throughout all his screwups, Trump has maintained fanatical support among Republicans. Yet occasionally a dissenting view will leak through, again exposing a harrowing view of the world’s most powerful man as he really is. On October 8, 2017, Republican Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee tweeted: “It’s a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.”

Republicans are not blind to Trump’s shortcomings, although blind partisan loyalty generally keeps them on message in public, reserving their honest opinions to whispered comments behind closed doors. One who went public, however, was Erick Erickson, a former CEO of the popular Redstate.com website, a Republican hangout. In a rare moment of candor, he wrote in 2017:

“The president exudes incompetence and instability. Divulging classified information to the Russians through bragging; undermining his staff’s defense of his conduct through inane tweets; even reportedly asking the FBI director to suspend an investigation of a former adviser—all these strike me not so much as malicious but as the ignorant actions of an overwhelmed man. Republicans excuse this behavior as Trump being Trump, but that will only embolden voters who seek greater accountability to choose further change over stability. The sad reality is that the greatest defense of the president available at this point is one his team could never give on the record: He is an idiot who does not know any better.”

And that’s the assessment of an ideological fellow traveler; as the polling results and unvarnished assessments of global diplomats suggest that the president is not merely “overwhelmed” and that the idiot defense for his chronic incompetence and misconduct is more than a simply rhetorical tactic. With the Trump presidency, H.L. Mencken’s 1920 prediction that one day the White House “will be adorned by a downright moron” has now come true.

TNR/Bartlett
goldberg
 
  1  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:14 am
@goldberg,
In a way, the Democratic party should be able to defeat Trump easily if it has a dashing or dapper candidate like Bill Clinton. Biden is toooooooo old. Just saying. No offence.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:35 am
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:
I don't want to dwell on it for fear of being called a racist.

Such false accusations are a crutch that progressives use when they have no facts or logic to present.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:40 am
@oralloy,
we present them. you gnore them. it's on you.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:45 am
@MontereyJack,
Progressives never present facts or logic. All they do is spout false accusations to distract from their lack of an argument.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:46 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Oralloy has gotten to be quite the crackpot. I don't remember him being quite so far out.

Are you able to notice the fact that you can't point out anything untrue in my posts?

Some people are actually incapable of noticing this.
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oralloy
 
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Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:47 am
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:
I just found a black racist named Paul Riddick. You two are an item.

False accusations of racism are a clear indicator that progressives have no argument.

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oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:48 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
joint's usual divisive racist bullshit.

You can always tell that a progressive has nothing to say when they start falsely accusing everyone of racism.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:49 am
@Builder,
lying about everything.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:49 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Exactly.
I would love to see all protest be peaceful...but what the hell....protest has to have some chance of effecting needed change.
The peaceful stuff was going nowhere. It was time to put some muscle into it...and I'm glad everyone did.
We could use a LOT less looting and rioting...but no more just standing around hoping some change will come along.

Are you volunteering your property to be destroyed? Or are you just volunteering other people's property?

Progressives are always really good at sacrificing other people's stuff.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 9 Jun, 2020 04:50 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
The GOP way: just let 'em all die, they don't vote for us.

Rightly so. Why should they waste their energy on people who will hate them no matter what they do?
 

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