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hightor
 
  3  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 08:45 am
The message our culture sends is that wealthy, comfortable lives matter and that the poor are expendable, minus that portion hired to do the "essential" jobs that maintain the machinery of their own oppression. "White-ism" is a four hundred year old institution dedicated to guarding the door to privilege and acceptance. The very fact that we need to proclaim that any lives matter — human lives only, of course — reveals our system for what it really is, a giant economic engine of mindless consumption and endless competition where people actually have to be reminded of our shared humanity.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 08:48 am
@goldberg,
You’re unwittingly repeating racists. All lives matter was the knee jerk response to Black Lives Matter, as if it was impossible to improve the lives and treatment of black people without white people suffering as a result.

It’s not true, never has been.

As other posters have already pointed out white lives have always mattered, but some white people need telling that other lives matter too.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 08:51 am
@hightor,
An editorial writer for a Phillie paper was fired after he submitted a "Buildings matter, too" piece and a large portion of the reporting staff walked out.

We used to say "if one life is saved its worth it" or that "you can't put a dollar value on life". But somehow in the last few years it established that lives have dollar limits and exactly what someones life is worth.

We have a lot to answer for.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 09:08 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
"White-ism" is a four hundred year old institution dedicated to guarding the door to privilege and acceptance.
The rejection of the foreign, seems to be an anthropological constant present in almost every culture. The ancient Greeks and Romans, for example, saw the alien as barbarian, but skin colour was not the distinguishing feature.
Black Muslim African troops provoked horror in the crusaders in the Holy Land. However, this did not create a general stigma, especially since the European Christian mythology has many dark-skinned martyrs and saints.

Here in Europe, stereotypes about race - and thus skin colour - started with the emergence of the transatlantic slave trade, the formation of social structures in colonies settled by Europeans and the limpieza de sangre ("purity of blood") on the Iberian peninsular.

About 400 years ago as you mentioned.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 7 Jun, 2020 09:28 am
https://i.redd.it/x8h0t2ba5e351.jpg
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Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:01 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

What reall y demonstrates his absolute inadequacy as a President or as any kind of leader is total inability to even attempt to open a dialogue or make any sort of step towards reconciliation. If he had only tried in some substantive way - ordering a white paper on police/community relations, naming a blue ribbon commission, asking Congress to look at it - throwing paper towels, something, anything. But all he does is wave bluster and threaten. Even his creation of Fort White House fails on so many levels, even if he were right about a violent revolution swirling around him, the only one he seems intent on protecting is his own big fat orange ass. As if he's some sort of Queen Bee.


He's just not long for his office. I am really glad that the military leadership has made definite and clear statements of their not backing him. Sec Esper made his own calculations and has jumped off the boat and away from the Trump kool-aid. Barr has started distancing himself from the the 'fortress WH' actions of Friday and Saturday, too.

Trump may well have to face his own Nicolae Ceaușescu moment when he has to in the middle of a sentence of a speech realize 80% of the nation has turned angrily against him.

We don't shoot our leaders in the Rose Garden, but we investigate the bejeebers out of them and throw them into the nation's historical dust heap. In that this is the most most criminal and venial of any President, he may well be indicted and at least perp walked.


I am beginning to feel he should have his Caligula moment. The entire country should be calling on him to resign.
snood
 
  5  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:08 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Barr has started distancing himself from the the 'fortress WH' actions of Friday and Saturday, too.



I hope Barr is not successful in avoiding all responsibility for that debacle. He was clearly behind it.
izzythepush
 
  4  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:09 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I never trusted Kissinger after the Fantastic Four arrived in Latveria to take out Doctor Doom only to find Kissinger negotiating with him.
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snood
 
  2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:12 am
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:

She is said to be a saturnine person. You know some hotties don't mind being called vultures to the extent that they get a chance to rake it in and work with the most powerful president on earth.


This responds to no posed question and addresses no issue being discussed here, so I suppose it speaks to some interest of yours. But thanks for sharing.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:22 am
@hightor,
Quote:
"White-ism" is a four hundred year old institution dedicated to guarding the door to privilege and acceptance.

"White-ism" is another word like "Islamophobia" designed to stop dialogue and conversations about the real problem.

People are not buying this manufactured ahistorical bullshit. Much of it has been debunked. Again, every race on Earth has owned and sold slaves. All slaves were not Black, they came in all colors.

Self hatred is a morbid thing. Morbidity and misery are Leftist staples.


bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:34 am
@Frank Apisa,
I'm at the sad point that I don't care what legal means it takes to pull him down. I would very much like to see him dragged out in cuffs. Or a net. Makes me no neverminds.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:36 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
what legal means

The Democrats have no idea how to do anything legally. They threw out the Constitution and rule of law before Trump was elected.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:40 am
Quote:
#STFUHillary is trending, this could unite us

Quote:
$STFUHillary is trending on Twitter and this might be the one thing that could unite us. Most of us agree she should shut up although I would put it more delicately, STHU is fine. Many Democrats also dislike this woman. It’s a point of agreement.

Everyone knows how important Twitter quotes are, some more than others.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/stfuhillary-is-trending-this-could-unite-us/
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:46 am
@snood,
Barr is a filthy skunk I loathe almost as much as I do Don Jr.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 10:47 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Barr is a filthy skunk.

Barr has forgotten more than you will ever know.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 11:00 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
"White-ism" is another word like "Islamophobia" designed to stop dialogue and conversations about the real problem
At least, it's not new, was e.g. already part of indentured servitude. (The system could not work with whites because their open enslavement would have made it impossible to find workers or settlers in Europe.)
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 11:07 am
Quote:
Vatican Archbishop to Trump: 'Children of Darkness' Oppose You

Not quite in line with the liberal abortion supporting Catholics here, but still a good reason for people to hate the church even more than they do now.
Quote:
"They are subservient to the deep state, to globalism, to aligned thought, to the New World Order which they invoke ever more frequently in the name of a universal brotherhood which has nothing Christian about it, but which evokes the Masonic ideals of those want to dominate the world by driving God out of the courts, out of schools, out of families, and perhaps even out of churches,” Vignano said.

Vignano concluded his letter, “United against the Invisible Enemy of all humanity, I bless you and the First Lady, the beloved American nation, and all men and women of good will.”

https://www.newsmax.com/us/vatican-archbishop-carlo-maria-vigano-letter-trump/2020/06/07/id/970927/
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 11:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
indentured servitude.

Quote:
Indentured servant definition is - a person who signs and is bound by indentures to work for another for a specified time especially in return for payment of travel expenses and maintenance.


Slaves never signed a thing. It was a bad thing, but it was not slavery.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 11:18 am
For any moron who considers indentured servitude "better than slavery".

Also consider that average life expectancy was mid thirties.

https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/indentured-servants-in-the-us/

Indentured Servants In The U.S.

Indentured servants first arrived in America in the decade following the settlement of Jamestown by the Virginia Company in 1607.

The idea of indentured servitude was born of a need for cheap labor. The earliest settlers soon realized that they had lots of land to care for, but no one to care for it. With passage to the Colonies expensive for all but the wealthy, the Virginia Company developed the system of indentured servitude to attract workers. Indentured servants became vital to the colonial economy.

The timing of the Virginia colony was ideal. The Thirty Year's War had left Europe's economy depressed, and many skilled and unskilled laborers were without work. A new life in the New World offered a glimmer of hope; this explains how one-half to two-thirds of the immigrants who came to the American colonies arrived as indentured servants.

Servants typically worked four to seven years in exchange for passage, room, board, lodging and freedom dues. While the life of an indentured servant was harsh and restrictive, it wasn't slavery. There were laws that protected some of their rights. But their life was not an easy one, and the punishments meted out to people who wronged were harsher than those for non-servants. An indentured servant's contract could be extended as punishment for breaking a law, such as running away, or in the case of female servants, becoming pregnant.

For those that survived the work and received their freedom package, many historians argue that they were better off than those new immigrants who came freely to the country. Their contract may have included at least 25 acres of land, a year's worth of corn, arms, a cow and new clothes. Some servants did rise to become part of the colonial elite, but for the majority of indentured servants that survived the treacherous journey by sea and the harsh conditions of life in the New World, satisfaction was a modest life as a freeman in a burgeoning colonial economy.

In 1619 the first black Africans came to Virginia. With no slave laws in place, they were initially treated as indentured servants, and given the same opportunities for freedom dues as whites. However, slave laws were soon passed – in Massachusetts in 1641 and Virginia in 1661 –and any small freedoms that might have existed for blacks were taken away.

As demands for labor grew, so did the cost of indentured servants. Many landowners also felt threatened by newly freed servants demand for land. The colonial elite realized the problems of indentured servitude. Landowners turned to African slaves as a more profitable and ever-renewable source of labor and the shift from indentured servants to racial slavery had begun.
RABEL222
 
  2  
Sun 7 Jun, 2020 11:28 am
@coldjoint,
If Trump had been vetted as he should have been and if the news media had done their job the crooked sob wouldent have been elected. I have tried to point out that he was a crook when he first showed up as a candidate.I wouldent understand why a vast majority of people with a grade school education wouldent see that he was and is colluding with the Russians because he has business ties with them. This is the reason he went share his income tax report with us. He should be shot as a Russian ccollaborator.I thought I hared Bush but he was 10 times better than this crook. Which doesn't make Bush a good president. The republican party should be disband because of its protection they have given this obvious crook. Ok, ill shut up now that I have gotten that out of my system.
 

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