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Lash
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 09:57 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I don’t know what you mean by full bore means of production Socialist.

It sounds like you’re confusing Socialism with Communism.

Socialism predates Marx by centuries.

My inspiration is Kier Hardie.

Do we not have the same dictionary as Britain?

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
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noun
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 09:58 am
@izzythepush,
Social market economy aka "Market Socialism" is the foundation of modern German economic policy.
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 10:08 am
@Lash,
The means of production aren’t regulated in America?

There’s no health and safety laws or anything like that?

You were talking about public ownership not regulation.

For the record I believe in public ownership of healthcare, utilities and public transport.

Communists believe in public ownership of everything.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 11:15 am
@justaguy2,
Quote:
BUT, there are still plenty of gullible twits in your country like coldjoint here,

How can you call anyone gullible after 3 years of lies about Russia that people actually believed with 0 evidence. That is gullible. It also makes the media corrupt as the Democrats. Next.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 11:31 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
It'll be locked for a week

That is referring to the "Progressive" thread, which is now open after the shortest week on record. Laughing Laughing Laughing Just a fountain head of truth.

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Lash
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 11:36 am
@izzythepush,
Owned and regulated by the community, no, Izzy.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:05 pm
In giant yellow letters, D.C. mayor sends message to protesters, and to Trump

Source: Washington Post

https://images.dailykos.com/images/814102/large/ScreenShot2020-06-05at9.56.23AM.png


D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser renamed the street in front of the White House “Black Lives Matter Plaza” on Friday and emblazoned the slogan in massive yellow letters on the road, a pointed salvo in her escalating dispute with President Trump over control of D.C. streets.

The actions are meant to honor demonstrators who are urging changes in police practices after the killing in police custody of George Floyd in Minneapolis, city officials said. They come after several days in which the mayor strongly objected to the escalation of federal law enforcement and a military response to days of protests and unrest in the nation’s capital.

Local artist Rose Jaffe said she and others joined city work crews to paint the giant slogan, starting around 4 a.m. The art will take up two blocks on 16th Street NW, between K and H streets, an iconic promenade that leads directly north of the White House. Shortly after 11 a.m., a city worker hung up a “Black Lives Matter Plz NW” sign at the corner of 16th and H streets NW. Bowser (D) watched silently as onlookers cheered and the song “Rise Up” by Audra Day played from speakers.

“In America, you can peacefully assemble,” she said in brief remarks to the crowd.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/bowser-black-lives-matter-street/2020/06/05/eb44ff4a-a733-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html
coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:06 pm
Twitter time.
https://cdn.cnsnews.com/styles/article_big/s3/2020-06/WoodsFallonTweet.jpg

Woods IQ is 184. Fallon's ?
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:15 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
“In America, you can peacefully assemble,” she said in brief remarks to the crowd.

No one ever said you could not. Please find the law that says you can riot and destroy property.
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:17 pm
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ABC's Karl rips White House for 'flagrant violation' of social distancing in Rose Garden

That should get him the Pulitzer. Laughing Laughing Laughing
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/501344-abcs-karl-rips-white-house-for-flagrant-violation-of-social-distancing-in-rose
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:21 pm
https://i1.wp.com/issuesinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/mrz060320_color.jpg?resize=1024%2C744&ssl=1
coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:31 pm
Quote:
The Media Are Lying To You About Everything, Including The Riots

I believe I have said this multiple times.
Quote:
The media lied about the Russia collusion hoax, about the Mueller probe, about impeachment, about the coronavirus—and now they’re lying about the riots.

They do not need evidence, just accusations. Remember the three years of accusations were dead wrong.
Quote:
In recent days we’ve heard a steady drumbeat of lies, distortions, and dis ingenuousness from the mainstream media about almost every aspect of the unrest now gripping American cities. The deceit is almost too pervasive and amorphous to describe, but I’m going to try anyway.

Over the weekend we were told, for example, that the looting and violence was being instigated not by left-wing anarchists and antifa groups but by the media’s favorite villains: white supremacists. CNN, whose Atlanta offices were vandalized Friday, went on and on—without a shred of evidence to back it up—about how white supremacists might be infiltrating the protests and stirring up trouble. The New York Times, in a report that even quoted a senior police official in New York City saying outside anarchist groups were coordinating mayhem before the protests began, nevertheless veered into a long aside about how far-right “accelerationists” were hoping the unrest would bring about a long-sought second civil war.

By Monday, no one was talking about the white supremacist agitators anymore. The media had moved on to better, more plausible lies.

That people get behind these lies, that they know are lies, is a sickness far more dangerous than any virus.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/03/the-media-are-lying-to-you-about-everything-including-the-riots/
justaguy2
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:33 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
How can you call anyone gullible after 3 years of lies about Russia that people actually believed with 0 evidence. That is gullible. It also makes the media corrupt as the Democrats. Next.


The "Russia investigations" were started under Obama BEFORE trump got elected when nearly everyone thought Hillary was going to win instead. Unless you're saying that Obama knew in advance that trump was going to win instead...? Next, dips*it.

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That is what gets votes. The Democrats have nothing to do with it.


It's businesses that actually "create" the jobs, unless you're talking about government jobs, so neither does trump in that case.

And that's fairly basic economics by the way...

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In fact their mission was to destroy the economy as we see in the Blue states that are still locked, but open for business destroying riots.


So you're saying that all democrat governors wanted to destroy their own state's economy's to help trump prosecute such an absurd argument? You're an idiot.


MontereyJack
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:34 pm
@coldjoint,
bullshit wild-eyed right wing attempt to spin reality.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:39 pm
@justaguy2,
Quote:
The "Russia investigations" were started under Obama

Started with no evidence which has been proven by transcripts of testimony from Obama's top officials.
Quote:
So you're saying that all democrat governors wanted to destroy their own state's economy's to help trump prosecute such an absurd argument?

I said nothing about prosecuting Trump. That already failed. I said destroying the economy would hurt Trumps reelection chances. It has already ruined a lot of lives in those Blue states. Comprehension is your friend, try it.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:40 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
bullshit wild-eyed right wing attempt to spin reality.

Rhetoric, because you cannot assemble a cogent argument.
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justaguy2
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:52 pm
@coldjoint,
By the way coldjoint/pinky, how's it feel knowing that while trump's living it up with millions of less than hard earned dollars to his name, you'd likely be struggling to rub two cents together. Knowing you'll never have any amount of money even semi-close to even just half a million to YOUR name... think about that. Laughing Laughing Laughing
justaguy2
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 12:56 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Started with no evidence which has been proven by transcripts of testimony from Obama's top officials.


So you've just admitted that your argument was a load of bullshit to begin with... how very interesting.

Quote:
I said nothing about prosecuting Trump. That already failed. I said destroying the economy would hurt Trumps reelection chances. It has already ruined a lot of lives in those Blue states. Comprehension is your friend, try it.


So you didn't understand my response...? Have another read of it perhaps...? Reading and understanding what's being said is your friend, try it...
coldjoint
 
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Fri 5 Jun, 2020 01:08 pm
@justaguy2,
Quote:
So you've just admitted that your argument was a load of bullshit to begin with...

You are having a problem with English. I said there was no evidence of Trump working with Russia and they started the investigation with no evidence, again, proven in testimony and recorded in the transcripts.
Quote:
So you didn't understand my response...

I did misunderstand that part of your response, but it does not make the Democrats trying to ruin the economy to hurt Trump any less true.
 

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