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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Sun 31 May, 2020 03:15 pm
@coldjoint,
all of that is total bullshit, your forte.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sun 31 May, 2020 03:28 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
all of that is total bullshit, your forte.

None of it is bullshit. They are proven facts.
RABEL222
 
  3  
Sun 31 May, 2020 05:24 pm
@coldjoint,
The reason its negative news coverage is because like you he lies like a rug and the populace has begun to realize he is an antiamerican crook. He loves putin and Russia more than the us.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sun 31 May, 2020 05:44 pm
Outsiders, extremists are among those fomenting violence in Twin Cities

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/30/outsiders-extremists-are-among-those-fomenting-violence-in-twin-cities

Jon Collins and Elizabeth Shockman
May 30, 2020 3:17 p.m.


On his way home from a protest Friday night in Minneapolis, Jonathan Turner Bargen encountered a white man in a red pickup truck. The man was carrying an assault rifle and a handgun, Turner Bargen said. Then he noticed a symbol from the far-right militia group Three Percenters affixed to the truck.

“I circled back and took pictures of the vehicle. I was concerned about why they were present at the downtown protest, and had no idea who to notify,” said Turner Bargen in an email to MPR News.


State officials, protesters and residents say they’re alarmed by the presence of extremists who may be using Twin Cities protests against the police killing of George Floyd as cover to burn down buildings and face off with law enforcement. Hundreds of buildings have been damaged and many totally burned in recent days.

Gov. Tim Walz said state officials estimated that 80 percent of the people involved in the violence and destruction were from outside the state.

But according to an analysis of Hennepin County jail records, 83 percent of people who were booked in connection with the protests over a 24-hour stretch starting Friday were from Minnesota, and 56 percent were from Minneapolis or St. Paul.

Walz said that what began as peaceful demonstrations in response to the killing of George Floyd in police custody on May 25 have turned into something else.

“The situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd,” Walz said at a morning news conference. “It is about attacking civil society, instilling fear, and disrupting our great cities.”

St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter said Saturday morning that none of the people arrested in St. Paul Friday night were from Minnesota. However, after MPR News requested arrest records, police confirmed that seven of the 18 people arrested in connection to the protests from Friday night to early Saturday morning were from Minneapolis or St. Paul. Four came from Wisconsin, Texas and North Dakota.

Accounts of armed men

Protesters and onlookers have posted numerous videos and accounts of confrontations with white men on social media, sometimes including symbols associated with fringe groups that originated online.

Many people have also told MPR News reporters of witnessing armed men in Minneapolis.

Bridget Schumann was out for a run near Calhoun Square in south Minneapolis on Friday night when she saw a truck that was being driven aggressively, honking and intimidating other drivers. The truck had a big white sticker on the back of the cab with the OK sign symbol associated with white supremacists.

“There were two men in the driver and passenger seat and they were wearing camo bulletproof vests and they were armed,” she said.

Schumann watched them get out of the truck and walk around in an apartment building parking garage like they were looking for something. She saw them scream at a woman leaving the garage. After they saw Schumann again, she got scared and called her boyfriend to pick her up.


“Very out of place. They weren’t cops, they weren’t National Guard,” Schumann said. “It was all just really hostile.”
Hexagon Bar burned.

In the predawn hours of Friday, KJ Starr watched from her yard in the Seward neighborhood, which has been especially hard hit by arson, as nearby buildings were consumed by balls of fire and billowing smoke.

With police and firefighters nowhere in sight, Starr and friends have been trying to fight fires themselves. When a nearby pizza shop went up in flames, she and some friends walked over to see what they could do. She was terrified by what she saw.

“This pickup truck of a dozen armed men just pulls up next to us,” she said. “I just did a total pivot.”
Arson at a liquor store

Minneapolis resident Rishi Ragoonanan woke up early for work on Friday morning, and saw a man who appeared to be white walk up to boxes of cardboard in the middle of a liquor store parking lot. The man lit the boxes, pushed them up against the wall of the store, and walked away.

Ragoonanan and neighbors ran outside and dragged the flaming boxes away from the wall. The liquor store was set on fire again the next night.

“None of us got any sleep for the last four days, trying to save this liquor store,” Ragoonanan said. “If this liquor catches fire, this whole neighborhood will burn down.”

Many people say they are leery of confronting those they suspect of contributing to the violence.

Turner Bargen, who saw a truck with a Three Percenters symbol on it, said he was afraid to confront the person, and afraid to call the police because he didn’t want an innocent person to get hurt by a police department that he no longer trusts.

Later he said he thought he’d made the wrong choice and wished he’d had the courage to confront the person himself. The owner of the truck, for his part, told MPR News on Sunday he has been marching with the demonstrators in support of justice for George Floyd.

The stated goals of the Three Percenters militia groups are vague, but they position themselves as protectors of the Constitution and have been associated with right-wing, anti-government causes. According to their official website, they aim to “get patriots to network, prepare, and petition together on a local level.”

The group’s name comes from the idea that only 3 percent of American colonists took up arms against the British. In 2018, three members of an Illinois-based branch of the militia were arrested in connection with a bombing of a mosque in Minnesota. Others were identified in military-style gear at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va.


Other groups have also turned their attention to the situation in Minneapolis. Chatter on social media suggests that far-right activists and fringe libertarian groups are seizing on the instability to provoke violence and destruction.

On the Facebook page Big Igloo Bois, administrators have been posting callouts for members to protest in Minneapolis, with one administrator urging members to “come in peace, prepare for there to be violence.”

The page is linked with the Boogaloo Bois, an anti-government far-right group which has made police brutality one of its central issues. The term “boogaloo” refers to a civil war between law enforcement and American citizens.

But not all of the destruction is coming from outsiders.

'This is not grieving'Fires, looting rock Mpls. in Floyd protests

“There’s certainly a plurality of actors,” said Alexander Reid Ross, doctoral fellow at the Center for Analysis of the Radical Right who has been watching footage and social media from the Twin Cities to try to understand who’s participating in unrest.

Ross said he thinks far-right extremist groups like Three Percenters and Boogaloo Bois are causing violence in the Twin Cities, as are some protesters angry about generations of institutional racism.

“It’s a complex ecosystem of a movement and you are seeing different groups contending to shift the balance in different directions,” Ross said. “There is an element of provocation emerging. And I think that probably comes from within as well as from without.”


Ross also said he did not think that the group Antifa was as much of an agitator in the Twin Cities as President Trump has made it out to be.

“I think it’s totally overblown,” Ross said. “Trump is saying it’s the radical left and Antifa. I was watching some videos and I didn’t recognize anybody from the usual protests that I see.”

Antifa is a loose collection of leftists that aggressively confronts members of the far right, including white supremacists. In the past they’ve drawn criticism for attacking right-wing protesters and law enforcement.

Ross said there had been anti-fascist groups online that had called for protests.

“These are spontaneous, self-organized demonstrations of massive unrest as a result of systemic white supremacy. It really isn’t something that’s being coordinated by anybody as far as I can see.”
‘They’re setting these fires’

People attending protests against police brutality have had run-ins as well.

DeVario Bogenholm, a 23-year-old who’s lived in Minneapolis for most of his life, blames outsiders, who are mostly white, for turning peaceful protests violent Friday night. He turned to Facebook to post a video of him and a friend confronting a group of young, white men who were smashing out storefront windows.

“Who’s destroying these buildings? These white dudes and we’re stopping them,” his friend, Noah Saba, said to the camera, then waved the phone to show footage of a group of white men on bicycles in front of a group of vandalized and burning buildings, “They’re setting these fires.”

Bogenholm said the video doesn’t fully capture the mob, with people of color largely at the back of the crowd and young white men initiating the damage to buildings.

Bogenholm and his friend demanded the men apologize for vandalizing the buildings and making black people look bad and then told them to leave. He said more people in the crowd turned on the men, and they rode off on bicycles.

“They knew they were in the wrong,” Bogenholm said. “And it was making us look bad.”

Hundreds of buildings across the Twin Cities have been damaged in the riots. A native youth cultural center, neighborhood bars and a building full of artist studios are among the structures that have been set on fire.

Minneapolis City Council member Jeremiah Ellison spent Friday night driving around his ward to ensure people stayed safe. He said property destruction at protests, which he doesn’t support, normally is focused on symbols of power like police cars.

“When you see no protest, there’s no mob sweeping through the north side, yet you see these fires popping up the main business corridor, that’s the thing that rang odd to me,” Ellison said. “Burning down small black- and immigrant-owned businesses, that doesn’t seem in lockstep with the tone of the protests.”
Residents desperate for help

City and state law enforcement agencies have lost control of the streets repeatedly, and left local businesses and residents to fend for themselves. Some residents have gone as far as to protect their homes or businesses while carrying bats or sticks, chasing off people trying to damage or destroy buildings.

In the south Minneapolis neighborhood of Powderhorn Park, residents and a City Council member co-hosted a community meeting on Saturday morning. It was titled “block by block: A plan for neighborhood peacekeeping.” More than a thousand residents attended.

Co-organizer Sam Gould said even when the violence dies down, the neighborhood is going to be charred.

To clean up ravaged streetsVolunteers flock to Twin Cities neighborhoods

Alexia Kelsey went out to the protest site Friday to help clean. She said the hair on the back of her neck rose after she saw a vehicle carrying two armed white men that had a bumper sticker associated with neo-Nazis.

“As a white ally, it’s even more important to support the black community and provide a unified front,” Kelsey said. “It’s tough because it seems like they’re using the opportunity of the cover of night to really ignite the violence.”


Officials have repeatedly promised that they’ll restore security and safety. They stressed at this morning’s news conference that they want to ensure that protesters can exercise their right to free speech, but that they will not tolerate rioting and destruction.

“This is no longer about protesting,” said Frey. “This is no longer about verbal expression. This is about violence, and we need to make sure that it stops.”

Carter said that the outside agitators are using peaceful protesters as a “human shield,” committing acts of destruction and violence and then melting back into the crowd.

Walz urged Minnesotans to abide by curfews.

“If you’re out after 8 o’clock, you are aiding and abetting them and you are giving them the cover that they want,” Walz said.

Angela Caputo, Geoff Hing, Will Craft, Catherine Winter, Sabby Robinson and Alex Baumhardt of APM Reports and David Montgomery of MPR News contributed to this story.
Before you go...
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 31 May, 2020 06:45 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
He loves putin and Russia more than the us.

All of that was a lie. It has been proven to be a lie. You are denying reality. Again, carry on.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 31 May, 2020 06:48 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:

Outsiders, extremists are among those fomenting violence in Twin Cities

They are not from the Right. They are from the Left and they are violent.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 31 May, 2020 07:25 pm
Quote:
Cops use surveillance footage to nab two *lawyers* who firebombed NYPD van

Lawyers burning police cars. I bet they are Democrats and are not victims of the manufactured crisis. Data does not support what the media is telling you. Leftists using violence for political gain, the definition of terrorism.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/05/31/cops-use-surveillance-footage-to-nab-two-lawyers-who-firebombed-nypd-van/
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 31 May, 2020 07:31 pm
@coldjoint,
Twitchy.com. Right.

3 ..... 2 ...... 1 ......

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 31 May, 2020 07:36 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Twitchy.com. Right.

It is a true story and you attacking the source shows your inability to discuss anything you do not like. We can add intolerant to your dishonesty and lying. The facts do not need you.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:13 pm
@coldjoint,
You got it backwards, twitchy, you present these crap sites because YOU'VE got nothing to say.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:13 pm
Quote:
President Trump says the US will designate Antifa as a terrorist organization

Quote:
On Saturday, Attorney General Bill Barr said that the riots across the U.S. have been "hijacked by violent radical elements," notably "far-left extremist groups."

"Groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda," Barr said in a statement. "In many places, it appears the violence is planned, organized, and driven by anarchistic and far-left extremists, using Antifa-like tactics, many of whom travel from out of state to promote the violence."

"We must have law and order on our streets and in our communities, and it is the responsibility of the local and state leadership, in the first instance, to halt this violence," Barr added. "The Department of Justice (including the FBI, Marshals, ATF, and DEA), and all of our 93 U.S. Attorneys across the country, will support these local efforts and take all action necessary to enforce federal law."

Someone going to fact check him? He knows, the media speculates and lies.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/antifa-terrorist-organization-president-trump?utm_content=buffer6e89c&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=tw-theblaze
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:16 pm
Quote:
Watch: Rioter Sets Himself On Fire Trying To Torch Building

Instant karma.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-rioter-sets-himself-fire-trying-torch-building
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:27 pm
Trump Hid in Nuclear Bunker While Protesters Besieged the White House
By
VT Editors -
May 31, 2020

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/05/31/trump-hid-in-nuclear-bunker-while-protesters-besieged-the-white-house/

VT: When the orange fat ass was threatening to unleash dogs or Tweeting away to his tanker truck driving fans, he was deep underground in a secret nuclear bunker doing the Hitler thing but without the wonderful result, a smoldering burned corpse to be found, even if Trump himself were to escape to Argentina and open an art gallery.

WASHINGTON — Inside the White House, the mood was bristling with tension. Hundreds of protesters were gathering outside the gates, shouting curses at President Trump and in some cases throwing bricks and bottles. Nervous for his safety, Secret Service agents abruptly rushed the president to the underground bunker used in the past during terrorist attacks.

The scene on Friday night, described by a person with firsthand knowledge, added to the sense of unease at the White House as demonstrations spread after the brutal death of a black man in police custody under a white officer’s knee. While in the end officials said they were never really in danger, Mr. Trump and his family have been rattled by protests that turned violent two nights in a row near the Executive Mansion.

After days in which the empathy he expressed for George Floyd, the man killed, was overshadowed by his combative threats to ramp up violence against looters and rioters, Mr. Trump spent Sunday out of sight, even as some of his campaign advisers were recommending that he deliver a nationally televised address before another night of possible violence. The building was even emptier than usual as some White House officials planning to work were told not to come in case of renewed unrest.

(CNN)As protesters gathered outside the White House Friday night in Washington, DC, President Donald Trump was briefly taken to the underground bunker for a period of time, according to a White House official and a law enforcement source.
The President was there for a little under an hour before being brought upstairs. It’s unclear if first lady Melania Trump and Barron Trump were also taken down with him.

Trump praised the Secret Service the next day for its handling of the protests outside the White House Friday night in the wake of George Floyd’s death last week in Minneapolis.
The New York Times first reported Trump was taken to the presidential bunker.

Content by CNN Underscored

On Saturday, only hours after the protests outside the White House had ended, Trump declared himself safe as he lashed out at the city’s Democratic mayor and raised the prospect of his supporters gathering in place that night in what would amount to a counter protest.

In a series of tweets, Trump commended the US Secret Service for protecting him inside his fortified mansion Friday evening, saying he couldn’t have felt “more safe” as protesters gathered outside over Floyd’s death. The President suggested that dogs and weaponry were waiting inside the gates.

Trump claimed DC Mayor Muriel Bowser did not permit the DC police to “get involved,” though Secret Service later said they were on the scene.
Later in the day, speaking at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida after the launch of the NASA/SpaceX rocket, Trump admonished protesters across the country, expressed support for the “majority of police officers” and blamed Antifa and the “radical left” — without any proof — in his most in-depth remarks since Floyd’s death and the ensuing nationwide demonstrations.

“I stand before you as a friend and ally to every American seeking justice and peace. And I stand before you in firm opposition to anyone exploiting this tragedy to loot, rob, attack and menace. Healing, not hatred, justice, not chaos, are the mission at hand,” Trump said.
Trump added that the voice of “law abiding citizens must be heard and heard very loudly.”

“We must defend the rights of every citizen to live without violence, prejudice or fear,” Trump said before supporting “the overwhelming majority of police officers who are incredible in every way and devoted public servants.”

“No one is more upset than fellow law enforcement officers by the small handful who failed to abide by their oath to serve and protect,” Trump added.

In his Saturday morning Twitter messages, Trump did not seek to lower the temperature or console Americans who find themselves facing parallel health and racial crises.

The decision to physically move the President came as protesters confronted Secret Service officers outside the White House for hours on Friday — shouting, throwing water bottles and other objects at the line of officers, and attempting to break through the metal barriers.


CIC = Chicken In Chief!!!!!
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:31 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Trump Hid in Nuclear Bunker

Another huge lie that is a function of the Secret Service. They determine when a situation calls for it. The president respects them.

Your source say veterans, nobody ever said they could not be brainwashed and manipulated.
bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:33 pm
@coldjoint,
Pretty funny in that there is no organization "antifas". Hell, I'm antifa. I don't have a card or pay dues or go to any stinking meeting. Ever.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:35 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Pretty funny in that there is no organization "antifas"

The authorities will figure it out.
Quote:
Hell, I'm antifa.

They wouldn't trust you either.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:39 pm
@coldjoint,
This is funnier:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/14/593531945/gun-trained-teacher-accidentally-shoots-gun-in-calif-high-school-classroom

Gun-Trained Teacher Accidentally Shoots Gun In Calif. High School Classroom

March 14, 20186:31 PM ET
Emily Sullivan, photographed for NPR, 17 January 2019, in Washington DC.

Emily Sullivan
Twitter

A high school teacher — a reserve police officer — accidentally discharged his gun during a lesson at Seaside High School in Seaside, Calif., on Tuesday.

The incident occurred in the midst of a national conversation about arming teachers that stemmed from the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., which left 17 people dead.

A news release by the Seaside Police Department identified the teacher as Dennis Alexander. "Alexander was believed to have been providing instruction related to public safety awareness," said the statement. "No one was seriously injured during the incident."

Monterey County Weekly noted that Alexander "is a math and administration of justice teacher who is also a Seaside city councilman and a reserve officer for Sand City Police Department."

"The teacher accidentally discharged his firearm during a lesson while it was pointed at the ceiling. Debris from the ceiling then fell," according to a statement by the Monterey Peninsula Unified School District issued to parents of students in the classroom.


Man accidentally shoots himself in Marengo gun shop

The man was trying to holster the weapon when the gun discharged Thursday at Marengo Guns.
By Sun-Times Wire Apr 2, 2020, 1:37pm CDT

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2020/4/2/21205863/man-accidentally-shoots-self-marengo-gun-shop


A 73-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the hand Thursday morning at a gun store in far northwest suburban Marengo.

He was trying to holster the weapon when it discharged about 11 a.m. at Marengo Guns, 20014 E. Grant Hwy., Marengo police said in a statement.

Officers responded and found him with a minor injury, police said. He was taken to a hospital for treatment.

He was cited for discharging a firearm, police said.


Got some funny ones about people accidentally shooting their kids, kids shooting parents, kids shooting kids - interested?
RABEL222
 
  3  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:40 pm
@coldjoint,
The president respects nothing but money and power.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:41 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
This is funnier:

Than what? You trying to tell the truth or you backing up what you say? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sun 31 May, 2020 08:42 pm
@coldjoint,
'Cause a President can't over-ride the SS? Nixon went out and talked to antiwar protesters informally at the Lincoln Monument, where was the SS????

Chicken In Chief Trump, buk - buk - buk - bukuk! Milania hopes he never changes, she loves the fresh eggs in the morning!
 

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