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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  5  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 11:20 am
Think about this...
Quote:
Even if Pence was not aware that sanctions were discussed between Flynn and the Russian ambassador when he made his comments, the episode could leave him with diminished standing, concerning those around him. For the national security adviser to mislead the Vice President on such a sensitive issue with impunity would seem to send a signal about Pence's standing in the West Wing, a Pence adviser said.

Pence has been a bastion of credibility within the administration, as the president himself has trafficked repeatedly in unfounded allegations about crowd size at his inauguration and voter fraud in November.
Politico
The concerns here are all about optics. There's really no hint of concern regarding the connections between the Trump camp and Russia/Putin. Given the evidence we already know about Russian entities almost certainly connected to Putin working to aid Trump's election, that's nuts.

And there looks to be attempts in all this to keep Pence clean. The GOP establishment needs Pence to maintain distance between himself and the Trump/Bannon/Flynn group so that Pence and the GOP have a sort of plausible deniability when the **** hits the fan. Pence is the backup. He's the guy they really want in the WH, not Trump.

But as I said, none of this deals with the core threat in all this - the Russian influence on the election and perhaps influence over key individuals.

We know already that the GOP, holding all the power now, will no mount a real investigation into this matter. We know they won't allow an independent congressional investigation that goes deeper than a facade and pretense. This work will have to be done by whistleblowers and by hard-nosed reporting.
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ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 11:27 am
@blatham,
Yeah, but I don't live on the northwest US coast anymore and great wonderful amazing lox is hard to come by here in sandland.

I didn't know that about the alt-right, but now that you mention it, that makes perfect sense.
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revelette1
 
  5  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 01:10 pm
@blatham,
Somehow he just doesn't quite pull it off, does he?

https://rawconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trumpobamagolf.png
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 01:55 pm
Quote:
(Reuters) - Major U.S. retailers Sears and Kmart this week removed 31 Trump Home items from their online product offerings to focus on more profitable items, a spokesman said on Saturday.
blatham
 
  4  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 01:56 pm
Quote:
Trump has at least four senior officials vying for alpha status in the West Wing: Conway; Reince Priebus, his chief of staff and nominally the person in charge; Steve Bannon, the chief strategist, who has been the architect of Trump’s early actions; and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and enforcer.

“Trump famously pits this one against the other,” a top White House official said, recounting the events of the day. “He’s like, ‘So and so is amazing, maybe smarter than you!’ He’ll just tease us.”
Ryan Lizza
Again, what's remarkable here isn't so much the infighting but that people keep leaking this stuff. I've never seen anything like this.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 01:57 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes. And that's not all of them.
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blatham
 
  5  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 02:09 pm
Raleigh protest for voting rights and resistance, estimated 50,000 plus

http://www168.lunapic.com/do-not-link-here-use-hosting-instead/148684373495817?9459615578

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izzythepush
 
  2  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 02:17 pm
@blatham,
Yet something else he has in common with Hitler. He had his cronies jostling for position too.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 02:18 pm
Just watched a short video posted on twitter of Canadian Mounties helping a Syrian family as it fled from the US
@pascalrobidas
blatham
 
  4  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 02:24 pm
@izzythepush,
Serving the public - the reason and motivation they ought to have - doesn't make an appearance with these people. Though I can't say that as regards Kushner as I really know nothing about him yet.
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layman
 
  -1  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 02:25 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Just watched a short video posted on twitter of Canadian Mounties helping a Syrian family as it fled from the US
@pascalrobidas


And there's plenty more where they came from. They're all yours. They don't have to "flee." ****, we'll give them limousine service right to your door, no charge.
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blatham
 
  6  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 02:46 pm
By exit polls (according to Ronald Brownstein) 1/4 of Trump voters said he was not qualified to serve as president. I think we can expect that almost all of those people are already aware their suspicions were more accurate than their hopes.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 02:55 pm
Good Weekly Standard timeline on this deceit by Trump
Quote:
Trump Secretly Called Xi, Then Blamed the New York Times for 'Fake News'
WS
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blatham
 
  4  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 03:06 pm
The ACLU has just gained more than 500 new volunteer lawyers. In Michigan.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 03:58 pm
@revelette1,
Considering he somewhere near 20 years older, did you really expect him to? But he would whip O's butt on the links
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 04:02 pm
@blatham,
Thousands! My goodness. Maybe if they had all voted HRC would have still lost.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 04:02 pm
@blatham,
Gives us some comfort that people are recognizing that Trump is a fraud.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 04:04 pm
@blatham,
500 unemployed law school grads. A lot better than chasing ambulances
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ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 04:05 pm
@blatham,
I love that! Well, I would, but it's very pleasing to me to hear about.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Sat 11 Feb, 2017 04:07 pm
@blatham,
I'm quite sure you know jack about Texas. Austin resident for 90 days?
 

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